NFL Week #9 - 11/6/2022 - The Bills at the (NJ) Jets - Post Game thread

[Low Positive]

Just now, GolfandBills said:

Deep breath… ok how we gonna stop Dalvin Cook

Look at whatever the Commies did today? Cook had 47 yards on 17 carries.

[Italian Bills]

Right now, honestly, beside all the anger for this loss, how much you are worried for the final regular season standing ? 
 

Still confident in the first seed, or not ? 

[Mopreme]

1 minute ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

Anyone want to talk about the silent refs until the final drive?

 

I do. 
 

Terrible. How many holds happened all game long that weren’t called? And then on the final play, Gardner is all over Diggs, doesn’t have his head turned, and is clearly holding his arms. I know they’re both going for it, but the rule has ALWAYS been the defender has to turn his head. 
 

I know that one play doesn’t make the game, and I know that it shouldn’t come down to this. But, good teams get those calls. Favored teams get those calls. Mahomes would get it. Brady would get it. Tyrik Hill or OBJ would get that call. 
 

I don’t like it. 

Refs are on Jets payroll. Bad call. Clear pass interference but Davis still should have caught the ball. 

[smuvtalker]

Guys,

 

I know we are pissed off right now, and you all have the right to be, and also have the right to vent....but let me just say this....

 

Yes, we lost today.  IMO, we lost the battle on both lines of scrimmage. Allen looked pretty bad yet again, AND threw an uncharacteristic red zone int for the second week in a row. I know you don't want to hear this right now, but make no mistake, this is STILL an elite football team.  Hell no we didn't play like one today, but facts are facts.  We are 6-2.  Both losses, although yes they were division losses, were away games.  Both the Jets and the Dolphins have to return to Orchard Park.  As someone pointed out, we played our worst game of the season, by far, and the Jets played a darn near PERFECT game, freakin flawless football, to come away with a 3 point victory.  Both of our losses have been by a combined total of 5 measly points.  

I have faith that this loss will light a fire underneath this whole team, players and coaches included, and they WILL rebound from this.  Noone today, and I mean noone, is above criticism.  

I'm never happy about a loss, but maybe, just maybe they needed this to happen.  Better it happen now than towards the end of the regular season.  I fully expect to see a completely different team next Sunday when we face the Vikings.  

 

 

[RobbRiddick]

29 minutes ago, Process said:

Allen is an absolute train wreck right now. We haven't see him look this bad in years. Consistently missing wide open receivers. Throwing balls straights into defender's chests. Playing like a mobile Nathan Peterman. 

 

He's in a really bad funk. I'm confident he'll get back to being dominant in the playoffs...but I want it to be in Buffalo and not KC. Need him to snap out of it. 

 

Add in several more injuries on defense. Ugh what a disaster this game was.

 

You're getting some eye rolls but you're correct. I love Allen but man he is struggling at the moment. 

 

The offense as a whole looks bogged down. I wondered if Davis was even playing as he has disappeared. 

 

The bright spot for me on an otherwise awful day was Cook showing big improvement and actually fighting for yards as well as showing speed. We have to establish the run so when games are going like this we can go to the ground and establish a rhythm and give the D a rest. Without Allen's legs we get shut out of this game

[njbuff]

Saffold standing there on the Singletary screen was the most aggravating play today.

 

Get you head into the game

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, 97bills said:

And here comes Dalvin cook. 

It's called a defensive scheme designed to stop the pass is being used as our base D now and Frazier keeps thinking we can stop the run with it.

Edited November 6, 2022 by Billz4ever

[Bangarang]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

there was 1:50

And if you don’t call a TO there ends up being much less time than that..

[muppy]

Just now, IronyAbounds said:

I'm not going to comment too much on today's game because I'm so pissed, but the Bills' fanbase is anything other than spoiled. It has had to endure so much for so long. Expecting to beat a Jets team that was crushed last week by the Pats does not mean the fanbase is spoiled.

no worries Ill clarify my statement. I think we fanbase are spoiled in as far as expecting the team will be dominant each and every game. Im calling out myself too.  It requires humility to realize we can be beaten. #17 is not super human and that this team can win every game this season regardless of who is healthy and who is not. . Expectations being so high and with a couple of losses it's like for some all the air is let out of the balloon .  Im not buying it..

[78thealltimegreat]

Just now, Nextmanup said:

You are assuming, I guess, that his current 6 quarter stretch of suck will go away at some point.

 

 

If it doesn’t you’ll be picking in the top 10 since this team simply isn’t good enough without him being Superman 

[Low Positive]

Just now, Motor26 said:

The Jags were legitimately horrible, the Jets look decent. Nothing similar about those two games. 

That game last year was weird. I still don't know how we lost. Today the Buffalo Bills got punched in the mouth.

[Process]

31 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Was Diggs held without a catch in 2nd half??????

 

Allen couldn't hit the broad side of a barn

[billsbackto81]

This game shows why Frazier will never be a HC in this league again. No adjustments, especially defending the run. 

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

UK is Allen hater every game the world is coming to an end 

 

No I'm not. I hate it when he plays like he did today though. He's so much better than that and he cost us the game.

[Billsforumsucks]

7 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

Beane is overrated when it comes to the draft.  He hit on Allen. That’s about it. All of his other high picks have been at best average to duds.  

Overreaction, Milano is great. Benford and Hamlin are good.

[RiotAct]

I’m still confident.  We’re going to go on a nice little run here, and the Jets and Patriots are gonna come back down to earth.  That win at Arrowhead will prove to be huge.

[RyanC883]

3 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

He was missing guys he usually hits all day long and both INTs I’m pretty sure if the WR or TE ran a different route than he thought because they were too bad for it to be any other reason. I believe it’s just an off day and he’ll get back on track next week. 

 

Allen had an “off day” vs Packers in 2nd half.   Today was inexcusable and he plays like this 1st half vs. Vikings I would yank him.  Not because Keenum is better, but because watching a half or whatever from sidelines sometimes helps.  

[chef4131]

Tough to watch this defense get run on like they have been.    
 

[Justin C]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

This team can’t lose games to the Jets and get the 1 seed. The team went into a lull last year mid season and it cost them 

The Chiefs can't lose games to the Colts and get the 1 seed. See how that works?

[Turbo44]

24 minutes ago, Flucod said:

Elam was awful today, Jets rookie ate his lunch all day.

wilson threw for 154 yards - Elam wasn't the problem today and wasn't awful

[Nextmanup]

5 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I find it strange that nobody realizes how important Cole Beasley was to moving the chains. 

I am not a big Cole Beasley fan but the Bills failed to replace him.

I think they felt others would step into his shoes, but that really hasn't materialized.

 

Davis has been off/disappointing most of the year and McKenzie sucks.

 

[Billsforumsucks]

Just now, billsbackto81 said:

This game shows why Frazier will never be a HC in this league again. No adjustments, especially defending the run. 

Run d went to crap when Rosseau was injured. Jets saw that and took advantage.

[Amaru523]

4 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

and both have to play in Buffalo in December 

Miami has a couple more easy games coming up, but then they have a 3 game stretch on the road against SF, LAC, and Buffalo. They could very well lose all 3 of those games.

 

I predict they finish 10-7.

Edited November 6, 2022 by Amaru523

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

You are assuming, I guess, that his current 6 quarter stretch of suck will go away at some point.

 

 

We’ve faced two of the best secondaries in the NFL.

 

What I’m noticing is Gabe Davis is not a true WR 1. Can’t get separation.

Edited November 6, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[BuffaloBaumer]

12 minutes ago, Flucod said:

WTF are you talking about? Only thing that was figured out is JA likes to throw to the other team.

Do you not comprehend what the word if means?

[Mopreme]

Just now, Turbo44 said:

wilson threw for 154 yards - Elam wasn't the problem today and wasn't awful

I hope Elam took some good notes. 

[Billz4ever]

3 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

People aren’t seriously advocating for Keenum? That might be the biggest over reaction I’ve ever seen.

If the O-line keeps up the protection we saw today, we might be seeing Keenum soon.

[UKBillFan]

Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:

If it doesn’t you’ll be picking in the top 10 since this team simply isn’t good enough without him being Superman 

 

He didn't need to be superman today to win. It was the basics that let him down; plays that you would expect rookies to make.

 

Can we ask to NEVER have a week seven bye again?

[Bferra13]

Josh has to get his head out of his arse. People blame the running game and oline in the running game, but it starts and ends with Josh. He's making headscratching throws right now.

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

He was missing guys he usually hits all day long and both INTs I’m pretty sure if the WR or TE ran a different route than he thought because they were too bad for it to be any other reason. I believe it’s just an off day and he’ll get back on track next week. 

 

The first INT he admitted in his post game presser he did not see the DB behind the rusher in his line of vision. The 2nd INT he called a "brain fart" which is vague enough to leave room for interpretation. He should have had a 3rd INT on a ball that he forced to Diggs when Shakir was wide open for a 1st. Overall Allen just never looked comfortable after the first INT. He needs to get his mind right this week.

[muppy]

5 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

The number of olé blocks happening at the right tackle position is frightening.  

yep he was a very obvious turnstile on some crucial plays.

[78thealltimegreat]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

 

No I'm not. I hate it when he plays like he did today though. He's so much better than that and he cost us the game.

The game was tied at 17-17 the Jets proceeded to run the ball every single

time from their own 4 yard line. 

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

It's called a defensive scheme designed to stop the pass is being used as our base D now and Frazier keeps thinking we can stop the run with it.

 

Frazier needs to go.  He is a huge problem. Going pass defend against a team that can’t pass and runs. 2 weeks in a row. now. At least it made some sense vs.  Rodgers, but not much.  No 1. D. hahah

[Billsforumsucks]

Just now, Turbo44 said:

wilson threw for 154 yards - Elam wasn't the problem today and wasn't awful

Wrong, every time they needed a 3rd down Wilson caught a ball for it with Elam

covering, Elam did not stop even 1 conversion throw his way.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

there was 1:50

And if he didn't call to there would have been 1:15. You always us the tos on defense 

[Spiderweb]

Just now, chef4131 said:

Tough to watch this defense get run on like they have been.    
 

Second week in a row. Yet it was more painful watching Josh have such and up and down game. Two bad INTs, etc.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

Allen had an “off day” vs Packers in 2nd half.   Today was inexcusable and he plays like this 1st half vs. Vikings I would yank him.  Not because Keenum is better, but because watching a half or whatever from sidelines sometimes helps.  

Oh my christ dude you don’t pull your superstar QB because of a rut. End of discussion.

 

[gonzo1105]

By the way 0-2 in division against the two teams that are now a half game behind us. 

[Joe Ferguson]

Bills may not even take the division. They are 0-2 so far.

[BananaB]

17 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said:

Wow fans are imploding themselves. Jeez. How about we are down too many good players on defense, and when you rely on one player on offense, he’s going to have a bad game or two. Need to get healthy. We’re fine. 

 How about our WRs suck besides DIggs. You think it’s getting easier? Another 2 catches for Davis on the year, gives him 18. Mr. ***** Reliable. As good as Josh is he needs more help then Diggs.