NFL Week #9 - 11/6/2022 - The Bills at the (NJ) Jets - Post Game thread

[Jeffbigalls]

2x this year I bet a bills only what should be an easy SGP and it goes down the drain.

 

Miami game $350 on bills ML, Allen 230+ yards, diggs 75+ yards. Today was $300 on bills ML,Allen 225+ yards, diggs 75+ yards. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[billybob71]

Most concerning to me is our D getting pushed around and gashed quite a bit for the last 6 quarters, and are O line having pass protection issues. Gotta get better if they wanna go anywhere this season.

[Maine-iac]

2 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

I thought run D was decent until the 4th. Then it kinda fell apart

Look at Otis Anderson's average per carry from his SB season and win against us.  It's horrendous but 3.2 per carry will keep the chains moving.  Then in the fourth our D totally came off the rails.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And when we needed any kind of pass rush, AJ & Groot were on the sidelines.

 

Groot was injured...not sure if he came back in...ankle injury. ANOTHER ONE.

 

Fire the dude taping up ankles...this is ridiculous

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It would’ve been a tough catch but he should’ve made it.  Sauce defended it pretty well.  It wasn’t like it was a completely wide open drop 

On WGR they are saying he dropped it 

[Mynamemike]

13 minutes ago, Italian Bills said:

Right now, honestly, beside all the anger for this loss, how much you are worried for the final regular season standing ? 
 

Still confident in the first seed, or not ? 

I don’t like being 0-2 in the division but not too worried.  I really hope Josh didn’t do any damage to that arm.  He goes down obviously it’s all over.  

[Shortchaz]

Don’t think this staff has what it takes to form a dynasty, just hoping they can have everything fall in place for one ring at some point. 

[Beck Water]

13 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

The Jags were legitimately horrible, the Jets look decent. Nothing similar about those two games. 

 

The Jets are a good team.  They have a top defense and a good run game, and they won 4 in a row when their QB wasn't making mistakes.

They really wanted this, and it showed.

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, Maine-iac said:

Look at Otis Anderson's average per carry from his SB season and win against us.  It's horrendous but 3.2 per carry will keep the chains moving.  Then in the fourth our D totally came off the rails.

Our D rotation should negate that. Our d line looked tired at the end 

[stevestojan]

Meh. One awful game. I was in Jacksonville last year and we still made it 13 seconds from the AFCCG. 

 

We’ll be just fine. 

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

No, you can’t. It would grenade the locker room. And he’s a superstar because he’s a top-3 QB in the league. Period. 
 

this place is completely insane after one loss. 

 

how is he top 3 QB?.  mvp awards?   SB win?  Heck, SB appearance?   Right now, and that’s what matters, in the last 6 quarters he is bad.  If he has 2 more bad quarters, sit him for one to reset him.  He can be a top 3 QB, but right now he’s not 

[BananaB]

Just now, Breakout Squad said:

On WGR they are saying he dropped it 

That’s what Gabe does

[Eastport bills]

21 minutes ago, 97bills said:

And it’s been like this going on 3 years, I don’t understand why coaches don’t do something. 

They probably think they can just rely on chunk plays and Josh running if there’s nothing downfield. The thing that’s troubling is that Motor can run effectively in the 1st half and they go away from him and he’s on the bench in the 2nd half.mostly. Cook looked good but if you can’t slow down the rush with the threat of a run, a thought front seven will hurt us.

[Billsforumsucks]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

The Jets were running a lot between the tackles, so it's not like Rousseau was involved in a lot of those plays and when they did run outside, it was away from Rousseau.  Rousseau recorded 1 tackle today.

Exactly, when he went out, they ran right at us and gashed us.

[Tulsabillsfanz]

Among the many players we missed today was Spencer Brown. His RT backup (#77) whiffed on the Jets #47 & cost us a bad hit on Josh’s throwing arm & a 19 yard loss on our final drive. We went from 2nd & 2 with 1:17 left to 3rd & 21 with around :40 left. That play alone may have cost us the game.  It was another 4 man rush play that we couldn’t handle. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

11 minutes ago, Italian Bills said:

Right now, honestly, beside all the anger for this loss, how much you are worried for the final regular season standing ? 
 

Still confident in the first seed, or not ? 

 

Ask me after next week. I need to see how this team responds. If they lose next week stick a fork in the #1 seed. Feel like the Chiefs have one maybe two more losses in them at the most. They need to stack a few wins. 

 

The team is in a bad spot right now. Offense is in a rut and we need Poyer and Milano to get healthy. Either Allen needs to get his head out of his rear and find them or Davis and Knox both need to get open. Or maybe both. The lack of production from Davis and Knox has to change. Right all three of Allen, Knox and Davis are not playing up to expectations. We have a good track recor do Allen playing to expectations. We really don't have a track record of Knox and Davis playing to expectations. It's all theoretical so far for those two. Thank God we have Diggs.

[Breakout Squad]

2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

well, the way we conceded it was awful.  Totally agree the offense was a bigger issue. 

I was impressed with the D stand at the 2 minute warning. That was a good stop and gave the offense a chance. 

[Roundybout]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

how is he top 3 QB?.  mvp awards?   SB win?  Heck, SB appearance?   Right now, and that’s what matters, in the last 6 quarters he is bad.  If he has 2 more bad quarters, sit him for one to reset him.  He can be a top 3 QB, but right now he’s not 

“Because he doesn’t have a Super Bowl win he’s not a superstar and should be benched after a game and a half of meh play”

 

Do you see how insane this is?

[RyanC883]

5 minutes ago, Beast said:

Why are you being a 🤡?

 

same reason you are a homer.  JA has been awful last 6 quarters. 

[Maine-iac]

Just now, Breakout Squad said:

On WGR they are saying he dropped it 

Not sitting here watching the replay but it looked like Sauce kept one hand tied up and it him in the forearm of the other arm.  Unless he got that hand free it would have been basically a one handed catch.  

[Billsforumsucks]

1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said:

On WGR they are saying he dropped it 

He dropped it, hit him in the freakin hands and Sauce was not close enough to stop it. Almost any NFL caliber receiver makes that catch.

[yall]

3 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said:

Milano would have made a big difference out there.  

I don't know that Josh even saw that guy on the first pick.  Maybe the green pants blended with the turf....he just didn't see the guy.

That was pass interference.  Should have been lining up a tying field goal and headed to OT.  

Even if they didn't call holding on Diggs' catch, they probably would've overturned the catch.  His toes were in went he went up, but they were out when he came down.

I'd rather play poorly and lose that play great and lose.  Today we didn't have it.

Don't give up on this team.  

Four of the five best players on our defense were not in the field today. And we still held them to 20 points.

 

Josh's last four interceptions have all been terrible. Just awful decisions.

 

That was as clear of a pass interference call as I've ever seen. It was like the refs were ready to be done with the game and just gave up paying attention.

 

With all that being said, we still should have won today.

[Nextmanup]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Not worried, they are simply too talented. Just irritated they seem to not be able to play their best as the season wears on unless they have someone breathing down their neck or are playing from behind.

 

Von has helped but maybe not enough. Less joking around during the week and more executing.

I thought Von was invisible in this game, save for a good play or 2.

 

I watch him a lot.  He doesn't even play defense; he is just a pass rush specialist.  

 

He tries his move, it fails 99% of the time (like everyone else's) and he is ridden out of the play and by then the ball is gone.  He then jogs at 1/4 speed toward the ball but almost never actually re-enters the play.

That's what he's basically doing, when he's actually on the field.  A lot of the time he is not.

 

Then suddenly he blows up a DE and gets a dramatic sack (none today) and the announcer says "Wow he's dominating out there!"

 

 

[RyanC883]

Just now, Breakout Squad said:

I was impressed with the D stand at the 2 minute warning. That was a good stop and gave the offense a chance. 

 

that was a good stand.  But Jets should never have made it out of their end.   

[Beck Water]

Just now, Breakout Squad said:

On WGR they are saying he dropped it 

 

Eh.  It was a catch that a top WR in the NFL makes - a DeAndre Hopkins/OBJ type. 

 

But I don't think it would be scored as a drop by anyone rational.  The DB was draped all over him, Gabe was hand-fighting him to the OPI point, DB had one of his arms probably before the ball got there and Gabe couldn't haul it in but I wouldn't call it a drop.  The Zebras could have probably flagged DPI there, but then if Gabe had made it they would have had a legit case for OPI as well. 

 

The Zebras were letting that kind of thing play out all game.

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

 

Apologies, think I've blanked that final FG from my mind!

[Beast]

2 minutes ago, par73 said:

Detroit has the worst D in football. They held the Packers to 106 yds on the ground today (and picked Rodgers 3 times). The Bills issues vs the run the last two games are a major concern.

Today bothered me. 
 

Last week? Whatever. If you are up multiple scores against an Aaron Rodgers team and not playing the pass you may want to seek a new defensive coordinator.

[Billz4ever]

Just now, Flucod said:

Exactly, when he went out, they ran right at us and gashed us.

Rousseau plays outside. If they are running between the tackles, Rousseau isn't even hardly involved in plays like that unless he is chasing and makes the tackle downfield.

 

I guess you missed the part where I said Rousseau had 1 tackle today.  It's not like he was blowing up the run while he was in there.

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, Flucod said:

He dropped it, hit him in the freakin hands and Sauce was not close enough to stop it. Almost any NFL caliber receiver makes that catch.

Im glad I turned it off. Didn’t break anything in anger, just turned off the tv. Then I grabbed a few 2x IPA’s and said ‘we’re on to Minnesota’ 🤣

[78thealltimegreat]

2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

how is he top 3 QB?.  mvp awards?   SB win?  Heck, SB appearance?   Right now, and that’s what matters, in the last 6 quarters he is bad.  If he has 2 more bad quarters, sit him for one to reset him.  He can be a top 3 QB, but right now he’s not 

Dude Allen is the offense without him this team is the Detroit lions 

[Johnnycage46]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

The Jets are a good team.  They have a top defense and a good run game, and they won 4 in a row when their QB wasn't making mistakes.

They really wanted this, and it showed.

 

Agreed.  And on the bolded...the Bills need to start to show that because most if not all teams left on the schedule will want to knock us down a peg.

[Real McClappy]

Just need to stop turning over the ball. 

[Turbo44]

41 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said:

Lucky if Josh plays next week

did you miss his last throw of the game? The one that traveled farther than any other NFL throw in 6 years. He'll be fine

[Breakout Squad]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

that was a good stand.  But Jets should never have made it out of their end.   

Truth. But making a stop is better than giving them 6 it’s encouraging they can step up. 

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

“Because he doesn’t have a Super Bowl win he’s not a superstar and should be benched after a game and a half of meh play”

 

Do you see how insane this is?

 

do you see that’s NOT what I’m saying.  it would be 8 quarters at that point.  And I’m not saying bench him, I’m saying take him out for a quarter to reset if the first half bs Minny looks like his last 6 quarters.  Something is mentally off with him.  

[SoCal Deek]

I know people don’t want to hear it or believe it but the defense, while not good, made the stop and forced the field goal with plenty of time remaining for Allen to at least get the team into field goal range….but, Josh Allen was horrible today, from start to finish. Let’s hope I never have to type that again. 

[Billsforumsucks]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

Rousseau plays outside. If they are running between the tackles, Rousseau isn't even hardly involved in plays like that unless he is chasing and makes the tackle downfield.

 

I guess you missed the part where I said Rousseau had 1 tackle today.  It's not like he was blowing up the run while he was in there.

He was causing them to run away from him, essentially taking away part of the field, do you get it now?

[DD4Bills]

Well, I’ve been a Bills fan since 1971 so have a long history of expecting the worst…and today we certainly got that. Am I concerned? Absolutely. Other AFC contenders are heating up (including within our own division) while the Bills have been going backwards for 2 weeks. Yes, they beat GB but ffs the Pack are awful. 
 

Best case, this a slap in the face wake up call that motivates them to get their heads out of their a$$es. How they respond next week at home against a very good Minn team will be very telling. If they lay another egg and fall to 6-3, well let’s just say that the “team chemistry” will be tested more than ever 

[Dan]

1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said:

I was impressed with the D stand at the 2 minute warning. That was a good stop and gave the offense a chance. 

...after letting the Jets literally run rigjt over them with a drive starting at the 4yard line.  Yah they stopped them. But ever hear the expression.. too little too late. ??  
 

Color me officially concerned about our inability to stop the run.   We had chances to win, the offense and Josh struggled.  But in a tie game, mid 4th quarter, the defense collapsed.  

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Dude Allen is the offense without him this team is the Detroit lions 

Yes.  Absolutely yes.  Please tell him to stop throwing picks.