Gugny Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, london_bills said: I think if this guy wanted to come here he would be here already. Like most players, he wants to go to the team who lines his pockets the most. I, personally, see nothing wrong with that. I just don't think anything matters to 99% of professional athletes more than money. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: That's fine. But your overall point is that these moves won't make the Jets a threat, right? The same Jets team who BEAT US last year with a terrible QB. Is now adding a QB who, even if he is not as good as he once was, is still quite good. If Rodgers puts up just an AVERAGE offense, the Jets make the playoffs and are a thread. The Jets lost games last year while scoring 3 points, 12 points, 17 points, 3 points (again), 6 points, 12 points (again), and 6 points (again). That's unfathomably bad offense. You aren't wrong, and I'm a huge Rodgers fan. He has a tendency to shut it down if things aren't going his way, he also struggled heavily last year with new players and no continuity. He will be in a similar situation this year, and I'm not sure he's willing to commit to an off-season at his age to combat the growing pains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Where's spags when you need the inside scoop on this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: That's fine. But your overall point is that these moves won't make the Jets a threat, right? The same Jets team who BEAT US last year with a terrible QB. Is now adding a QB who, even if he is not as good as he once was, is still quite good. If Rodgers puts up just an AVERAGE offense, the Jets make the playoffs and are a thread. The Jets lost games last year while scoring 3 points, 12 points, 17 points, 3 points (again), 6 points, 12 points (again), and 6 points (again). That's unfathomably bad offense. That wasn't really my point. I'm less concerned about them long-term. Next year, they'll be a tougher out. I think they're making a mistake. They had a very good thing going - a team loaded w/ great young talent. And there are other QB's available that wouldn't have chewed up miles of cap, and come w/ other moves that diminish their chances of contending after Rodgers moves on. I'll take that. I thought they were building a team that could be our primary competition throughout the Allen era. Not seeing that now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, Einstein said: You removed all credibility from this post when you called the guy who has won 2 of the last 3 league MVPs'a a "washed up QB". Homers gonna homer. The Jets beat us last year with Zach Wilson at QB. Their defense is nasty. If they had ANY semblance of an offense, they would have been in the playoffs last year. how two teams play against each other in one year doesn't necessarily translate what happens the next season as you're insisting. maybe, but the jets could also be a team that completely collapses under the weight. rodgers is a year, maybe two rental. if they don't win the super bowl during that time, it's a complete waste. and for a guy that keeps pounding how good rodgers is during the regular season, how has he done in the playoffs? i'm not saying he doesn't greatly improve the team, but why be scared about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, twist_to_open said: I doubt the Jets message boards tops 175 pages of discussion on this. Challenge accepted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, teef said: how two teams play against each other in one year doesn't necessarily translate what happens the next season What that game showed us (and really every game) that the Jets defense is legit. An extremely good defense. So good that they can win 7 games while having a horrendous offense. If they put together just a decent offense. Not great, not spectacular, just DECENT. They are a playoff team. 4 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: You aren't wrong, and I'm a huge Rodgers fan. He has a tendency to shut it down if things aren't going his way, he also struggled heavily last year with new players and no continuity. He will be in a similar situation this year, and I'm not sure he's willing to commit to an off-season at his age to combat the growing pains. Yep. Watch him have a resurgence this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: What that game showed us (and really every game) that the Jets defense is legit. An extremely good defense. So good that they can win 7 games while having a horrendous offense. If they put together just a decent offense. Not great, not spectacular, just DECENT. They are a playoff team. they'll be very good. no doubting that, but there's a lot of scenarios on which that can go wrong. let them go to the playoffs and watch rodgers melt down again. remeber, this is a guy who said he was 90% ready to retire a couple of months ago. signing rodgers may very well hurt that team in the long term, but i certainly get why they want to do it. again, if they don't win the super bowl this year, it will hurt far more than it helps. the talent of their team will be a little bit older, they'll be closer to new contract, and no qb in sight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 so, is this juicy news then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I would be shocked if one of the Bills-Jets games this year isn't on primetime. The other will be the CBS featured game that week with Nantz/Romo on the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Einstein said: What that game showed us (and really every game) that the Jets defense is legit. An extremely good defense. So good that they can win 7 games while having a horrendous offense. If they put together just a decent offense. Not great, not spectacular, just DECENT. They are a playoff team. Nothing that Beane and the Bills can do about the Jets off season moves. When gameday comes around we will see who is better. AFCW was going to be all that and tough for KC to handle last year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gregg said: I would be shocked if one of the Bills-Jets games this year isn't on primetime. The other will be the CBS featured game that week with Nantz/Romo on the call. I just don't want the Bills to play on Thanksgiving and I wouldn't mind avoiding Romo. He has been a jinx when he calls Bills games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gregg said: I would be shocked if one of the Bills-Jets games this year isn't on primetime. The other will be the CBS featured game that week with Nantz/Romo on the call. Thats only if the broadcasters see the Bills as worthy of prime time. Personally I dont care and prefer 1pm games, but what have the Bills done this offseason to make people interested in them? Miami and NYJ are going to get all the hype going into the season. I think its likely that the talking heads see the Bills as a team fighting with NE for 3rd place in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: Good call. Just listen to WGR on Mondays for the pretty picture, win or lose EDIT- its always a 'win' on that channel Speaking of WGR, Joe Diabase was obsessed with 2 names this year: Jakob Chychrun and Odell Beckham. What is he going to do if the Bills don't get either one of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Von says he is coming to the Bills If you can't believe our own players then what do we have ? Did he say this recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Thats only if the broadcasters see the Bills as worthy of prime time. Personally I dont care and prefer 1pm games, but what have the Bills done this offseason to make people interested in them? Miami and NYJ are going to get all the hype going into the season. I think its likely that the talking heads see the Bills as a team fighting with NE for 3rd place in the division. The Bills won 13 games last year and have JA. They will get their share of primetime games. I would guess 4 with a chance to be flexed into a 5th game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Too bad we are having such a hard time affording upgrades to our skilled positions. I'm hoping this off season that we at least get a running back on the roster better than Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 We do have his WR Coach from every place he's been except LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I just don't want the Bills to play on Thanksgiving and I wouldn't mind avoiding Romo. He has been a jinx when he calls Bills games. The Bills will get the CBS #1 announcers sometimes when they play on Sunday afternoon. No chance the Bills don't get Romo/Nantz at some point in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, gjv said: Too bad we are having such a hard time affording upgrades to our skilled positions. I'm hoping this off season that we at least get a running back on the roster better than Josh. Huh? We signed Damien Harris. A quality physical player with good speed. Not sure many RB's are better runners than Josh though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, gjv said: Too bad we are having such a hard time affording upgrades to our skilled positions. I'm hoping this off season that we at least get a running back on the roster better than Josh. Wait, McDermott wants Josh to not take too many chances running. This board melted down and evidently wants him to run more! Bills need to trade for Henry and teach him how to throw. You know, in case Josh gets injured we can have the same type of player at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Good, hope the Jets do land him and pay an exorbitant amount of $. And overpay Rodgers and give the packers way too much. Rodgers is old, no one has any clue how effective he will be, same with OBJ coming over a years with no football and serious injury. Roll the dice big Jets. Edited March 30, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Thats only if the broadcasters see the Bills as worthy of prime time. Personally I dont care and prefer 1pm games, but what have the Bills done this offseason to make people interested in them? Miami and NYJ are going to get all the hype going into the season. I think its likely that the talking heads see the Bills as a team fighting with NE for 3rd place in the division. They won 13 games and the division last year. Allen is 19-9 career in the AFCE - 15-3 over the last 3 seasons (17-3 with 2 playoff wins). And they have won the division 3 years in a row. Uncommon opponents for Bills: Bengals, Jaguars, Bucs Uncommon opponents for Jets: Texans, Browns, Falcons Uncommon opponents for Miami: Titans, Panthers, Ravens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: They won 13 games and the division last year. Allen is 19-9 career in the AFCE - 15-3 over the last 3 seasons (17-3 with 2 playoff wins). And they have won the division 3 years in a row. Uncommon opponents for Bills: Bengals, Jaguars, Bucs Uncommon opponents for Jets: Texans, Browns, Falcons Uncommon opponents for Miami: Titans, Panthers, Ravens The Bills and Dolphins will probably get on primetime as well. They did play 3 close games last year. I would say Bills-Dolphins and Bills-Jets are a good bet for primetime this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 The NFL has become the AFC + the nfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 OBJ is one of the most overrated, if not THE most overrated, players in the league. He is living off of his first three seasons and, more than that, he's living off of ONE highlight reel catch. Ya wanna know the last time OBJ had more than 1,100 yards receiving? 2016! SEVEN years ago! After his great first three years with the Giants, his season-long receiving outputs have been as follows. Yes, injury, QB play, team circumstance, etc, have all played a part, but...tough *****. Lots of players deal with those same things and post superior production: 302 yards 1052 yards 1035 Yards 319 Yards 537 Yards Here are a few active players with more career receiving yards: Marvin Jones Randall Cobb Robert Woods Jarvis Landry Amari Cooper Brandin Cooks Like...aside from OBJ's name, his "brand", his great catch from 2015 or whatever....what exactly am I supposed to be excited about? And now he's coming off back-to-back ACL injuries?! Meh. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Logic said: OBJ is one of the most overrated, if not THE most overrated, players in the league. He is living off of his first three seasons and, more than that, he's living off of ONE highlight reel catch. Ya wanna know the last time OBJ had more than 1,100 yards receiving? 2016! SEVEN years ago! After his great first three years with the Giants, his season-long receiving outputs have been as follows. Yes, injury, QB play, team circumstance, etc, have all played a part, but...tough *****. Lots of players deal with those same things and post superior production: 302 yards 1052 yards 1035 Yards 319 Yards 537 Yards Here are a few active players with more career receiving yards: Marvin Jones Randall Cobb Robert Woods Jarvis Landry Amari Cooper Brandin Cooks Like...aside from OBJ's name, his "brand", his great catch from 2015 or whatever....what exactly am I supposed to be excited about? And now he's coming off back-to-back ACL injuries?! Meh. Stop being so logical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Here we are, back home again, nice couch 🛋 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Logic said: OBJ is one of the most overrated, if not THE most overrated, players in the league. He is living off of his first three seasons and, more than that, he's living off of ONE highlight reel catch. Ya wanna know the last time OBJ had more than 1,100 yards receiving? 2016! SEVEN years ago! After his great first three years with the Giants, his season-long receiving outputs have been as follows. Yes, injury, QB play, team circumstance, etc, have all played a part, but...tough *****. Lots of players deal with those same things and post superior production: 302 yards 1052 yards 1035 Yards 319 Yards 537 Yards Here are a few active players with more career receiving yards: Marvin Jones Randall Cobb Robert Woods Jarvis Landry Amari Cooper Brandin Cooks Like...aside from OBJ's name, his "brand", his great catch from 2015 or whatever....what exactly am I supposed to be excited about? And now he's coming off back-to-back ACL injuries?! Meh. Very well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Here we are, back home again, nice couch 🛋 20 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Stop being so logical And I may ask myself, "Well, how did we get here?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Logic said: OBJ is one of the most overrated, if not THE most overrated, players in the league. He is living off of his first three seasons and, more than that, he's living off of ONE highlight reel catch. Ya wanna know the last time OBJ had more than 1,100 yards receiving? 2016! SEVEN years ago! After his great first three years with the Giants, his season-long receiving outputs have been as follows. Yes, injury, QB play, team circumstance, etc, have all played a part, but...tough *****. Lots of players deal with those same things and post superior production: 302 yards 1052 yards 1035 Yards 319 Yards 537 Yards Here are a few active players with more career receiving yards: Marvin Jones Randall Cobb Robert Woods Jarvis Landry Amari Cooper Brandin Cooks Like...aside from OBJ's name, his "brand", his great catch from 2015 or whatever....what exactly am I supposed to be excited about? And now he's coming off back-to-back ACL injuries?! Meh. The talk about Beckham getting big money and long term was always ridiculous.............but he was a 1,000 yard receiver in 2019 and then tore his ACL midway thru 2020. It's not like he's had a series of bad performing seasons. The last time he was on the field he was playing excellent football. He's probably a $5M-$7M aav 1 year deal player at this point but he could be a very good WR2 for that money if he returns to the form he was at in January 2022. He just has a higher level of skill than a guy like Gabe Davis who struggles even with basic catch mechanics as a WR2. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Gregg said: The Bills will get the CBS #1 announcers sometimes when they play on Sunday afternoon. No chance the Bills don't get Romo/Nantz at some point in the season. I know but Romo is a jinx to the Bills. Nantz just jinxes kickers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I know but Romo is a jinx to the Bills. Nantz just jinxes kickers. Jinx? They were 6-0 last year before the Cincy playoff game in games Romo and Nantz called. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: Thats only if the broadcasters see the Bills as worthy of prime time. Personally I dont care and prefer 1pm games, but what have the Bills done this offseason to make people interested in them? Miami and NYJ are going to get all the hype going into the season. I think its likely that the talking heads see the Bills as a team fighting with NE for 3rd place in the division. I certainly hope the storyline is the Bills fighting for 3rd, maybe they won't lay down like last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The 9 Isles said: The NFL has become the AFC + the nfc nfc now minus Rodgers and Brady. Eagles and Niners the only teams capable of sharing a field with the top tier AFC teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Logic said: Like...aside from OBJ's name, his "brand", his great catch from 2015 or whatever....what exactly am I supposed to be excited about? Be excited that he's a better WR than Gabe Davis. This is not even debatable. The last game he played in he was the best player on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said: Good for the Jets for recognizing when it is time to go "all in". Wish the bills FO had some of that I mean, to be fair... The Bills have spent to the cap the past few seasons, traded quite a few picks for a top five receiver in Stefon Diigs, just paid mega bucks to a Hall of Fame edge rusher in Von Miller, and are rumored to be trying to trade for DeAndre Hopkins. I suppose you could look to their being unwilling to acquire Christian McCaffrey last year to back up your point, but personally, I don't really think it's fair or accurate to say that the Bills HAVEN'T been going "all in". Edited March 30, 2023 by Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Where is GM Von Miller when you need him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 hours ago, WotAGuy said: The point, bro, is the Jets went from Zach Wilson to Aaron Rodgers (presumably). If you think the Jets downgraded with that switch, that’s all I need to know about your football acumen. I didn't say that. And my football acumen is plenty. I just think Aaron Rodgers is overhyped. And I am not scared of the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said: In a single game though, his talent in the slot may be unmatched in the league. When the playoffs start, and it is one game, do or die, that's where pure talent like this matters. The Bills don't need a solid, steady, 1000 yard season where a guy has a couple big games against the Texans or something. The bills have that with Gabe Davis. The Bills need a gamebreaker so they don't put up 10 points in the snow at home against the Bengals. --- Good for the Jets for recognizing when it is time to go "all in". Wish the bills FO had some of that He has done nothing to warrant these statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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