Inigo Montoya Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) The Phins secondary beyond Xavier Howard is pretty iffy and he's on the injury report right now too. If both teams go into the game with no effective secondary then it just becomes a good old fashioned shoot out and the question is who would you take in that situation; Tua / Hill / Waddle ---or--- Allen / Diggs / Davis? I think our D-line can disrupt their passing game more than theirs can disrupt ours. I'm picking Buffalo. Edited September 22, 2022 by Inigo Montoya 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Westside said: If the trainers and drs for the Bills thought it was major, why would they let him go home after the game instead going to the hospital to get it checked out. ? What a bunch of Debbie Downers here. Hyde went to the hospital after the game. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/20/dane-jackson-is-in-good-spirits-micah-hyde-also-was-sent-to-hospital-for-tests/ Edited September 22, 2022 by Jauronimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, Jauronimo said: Hyde went to the hospital after the game. By ambulance or car? Big Difference Just now, Westside said: By ambulance or car? Big Difference You disagree??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just thought of Eric Wood, who was forced to retire. Wishing Hyde all the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Edited September 22, 2022 by YoloinOhio 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Westside said: By ambulance or car? Big Difference You disagree??? By hot air balloon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Why do people in this thread keep suggesting that this is a precaution? Much more likely IMO that Bills' doctors told him it's major and he's trying to get a second opinion because he doesn't want to be out for the year. There is no proof any of this has happened. It's a neck injury. He went to the hospital and was examined by doctors. He then, no doubt, had those results reviewed by the Bills staff. Now he is going for another opinion. None of us know what any of these people have said about his injury. Anything more than that right now is speculation. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Damn this doesnt sound good. Prayers to Hyde 🙏 Also not good for the Bills. Our pass rush is going to have to be beasts this week to help the young secondary out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 46 minutes ago, Warcodered said: At this rate we're going to go from him getting a second opinion to us acting like he's on life support in an hour or two. We'll have to amputate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, Jauronimo said: By hot air balloon. Thanks for playing, I’ll let you know later if you won the internet today. Stay close to your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Seems likely he's out a while if he's looking for opinions. It sure does. But unless that 2nd doctor lives far away and Hyde has to travel, you'd think with his money and status he'd get that 2nd opinion pretty much right away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, ColoradoBills said: There is no proof any of this has happened. It's a neck injury. He went to the hospital and was examined by doctors. He then, no doubt, had those results reviewed by the Bills staff. Now he is going for another opinion. None of us know what any of these people have said about his injury. Anything more than that right now is speculation. Exactly. There is zero point speculating. Nobody knows but Hyde, the Bills, and the staff/Drs involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Hope Hyde is ok. Thoughts and 🙏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Westside said: If the trainers and drs for the Bills thought it was major, why would they let him go home after the game instead going to the hospital to get it checked out. ? What a bunch of Debbie Downers here. They said he did go to the hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: We'll have to amputate He’s not going to make it. We’ll have to pull the plug. Just now, Big Blitz said: They said he did go to the hospital They let him leave with such a serious neck injury? That’s pretty irresponsible if true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: Most likely not playing against the Fins bummer but this is a marathon not a sprint and Hyde missing a week or two is better than him having a long term injury. He it could be much worse than a week or two. Hope not. Edited September 22, 2022 by Bob in STL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, Bob in STL said: He it could be much worse than a week or two. Hope not. And he could possibly play this week. We have only opinions. I prefer to think positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, Westside said: And he could possibly play this week. We have only opinions. I prefer to think positive. True. The 2nd opinion might just verify and support the first one. I thought I read that he has had neck trouble for awhile. Either way, think positive. The backups are decent players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: Wise move by Hyde. You can't mess with neck injuries. Get as much consultation and possible regardless of how long it may take. I concur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: It would be interested to know what the teams trainers/doctors said, that made him want to get a 2nd opinion? I'd imagine it can only go one of two ways, one being, "You're too hurt to play, we can't clear you" and Hyde is like, "Nah man, I ain't that hurt" OR it's vice-versa and the team docs are saying, "Everything looks good" with Hyde saying, "Nah, something's wrong." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Now I'm worried. Tua could have a field day. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that he's been really impressing this season. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Draconator said: Can you imagine how this board will implode if Hyde comes back and says he wants Eichel's surgery? Depends what the CBA says. Do NFL players have the right to chose their treatment? Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Now I'm worried. Tua could have a field day. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that he's been really impressing this season. He's not going to have a field day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Lost said: Benford and Elam have already proven enough to be bonafide starters. Damar hamlin looked decent in camp. Poyer is most likely starting. Only question marks to me are Siran Neal and or Cam Lewis stepping in as slot corner. But we turned an undrafted FA in Levi Wallace into a decent starter in this league so I trust our coaching staff to get our backups up to speed. I don’t know if I’m ready to state they are bonafide starters after two games. Passing isn’t TN strength and the front 4 were just dominate against the Rams. Make no mistake Miami will challenge both of them and with Hyde out it adds another layer of difficulty to the secondary. D is going to have to get pressure, tackle well eliminating YAC, not get beat deep consistently like Baltimore and not make self inflicted mistakes. Do that along with our offense putting points on the board in bunches and I still like our chances! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Fantasy scenarios without any facts are a waste of time. I'll just hope for the best. Speculation at this time is useless. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I'd imagine it can only go one of two ways, one being, "You're too hurt to play, we can't clear you" and Hyde is like, "Nah man, I ain't that hurt" OR it's vice-versa and the team docs are saying, "Everything looks good" with Hyde saying, "Nah, something's wrong." What about the doctor's evaluation from the hospital? I would guess those "experts" had an input. Has Hyde had other doctors (Bills affiliated or others) evaluate him Tuesday or Wednesday? What if the Bills want him to get another opinion and Hyde concurs? What about all the other scenarios we are not privy to? It's a football player with a neck injury. I doubt anything is black or white. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I’m not worried as if I’m early 30’s and I had a neck injury it’s late for the course to get two to three opinions. For me, I want Hyde for this year and next year so if he misses this week, the sky is not falling. I like how J Jones and Hamlin have been developing. It’s just problematic to have an aggregate of Tre, Dane and Hyde. We still have Dr. Poyer and Taron. Benford and Elam have at least had two games NFL experience. The good news is it may be more, but I’ve only seen one blitz in two games so at least 7 back in zone. That should help. Having as others have mentioned we just need a powerhouse offensive play with Gabe, Knox, and everyone else back. The last is if we get J Phillips, and Settle good to go, a pass rush is our friend. They don’t have a good O Line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I'd imagine it can only go one of two ways, one being, "You're too hurt to play, we can't clear you" and Hyde is like, "Nah man, I ain't that hurt" OR it's vice-versa and the team docs are saying, "Everything looks good" with Hyde saying, "Nah, something's wrong." There are dozens of possibilities. Hyde has had neck problems for quite awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I’m not worried as if I’m early 30’s and I had a neck injury it’s late for the course to get two to three opinions. For me, I want Hyde for this year and next year so if he misses this week, the sky is not falling. I like how J Jones and Hamlin have been developing. It’s just problematic to have an aggregate of Tre, Dane and Hyde. We still have Dr. Poyer and Taron. Benford and Elam have at least had two games NFL experience. The good news is it may be more, but I’ve only seen one blitz in two games so at least 7 back in zone. That should help. Having as others have mentioned we just need a powerhouse offensive play with Gabe, Knox, and everyone else back. The last is if we get J Phillips, and Settle good to go, a pass rush is our friend. They don’t have a good O Line. Not sure on Settle but Phillips is highly unlikely. Hammy's are a B word and its fresh on a short week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Hmmmm.....is he out there? Yep - better grab him before Seattle. Could be a good addition even with a healthy Hyde to at least help in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Current injury situation is very concerning, but if there's any potential that Hyde is lost for the season it really changes things in terms of this defense for the rest of the season and feel this injury could be more significant than White's last year. Have some potential talent behind Hyde but not a plug and play type of situation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Jaquan Johnson has been ready to go for more than a year. I hate losing Hyde but Johnson is a good, smart player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Hyde is the QB of the defense. Could see some breakdowns without him. I wonder if a player ever gets a 2nd opinion when the team says you’re ok but you want to get your own doctors opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, eball said: Jaquan Johnson has been ready to go for more than a year. I hate losing Hyde but Johnson is a good, smart player. I like Johnson but he's just so slow. Hyde is the center fielder, I don't see that skill set anywhere else on the roster. My guess is that Poyer slides into Hyde's role and then Jaquan plays Poyer's role of being more in the box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Lost said: Benford and Elam have already proven enough to be bonafide starters. Damar hamlin looked decent in camp. Poyer is most likely starting. Only question marks to me are Siran Neal and or Cam Lewis stepping in as slot corner. But we turned an undrafted FA in Levi Wallace into a decent starter in this league so I trust our coaching staff to get our backups up to speed. Ja'quan Johnson will be starting not Hamlin if Hyde can't go. 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: I like Johnson but he's just so slow. Hyde is the center fielder, I don't see that skill set anywhere else on the roster. My guess is that Poyer slides into Hyde's role and then Jaquan plays Poyer's role of being more in the box. Yeah this is not the game where you want a 4.7 guy at safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Definitely worried about Hyde long term. Short term, not having Poyer able to practice today makes this even more alarming for Sunday. This might be a track meet. Bet the over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, eball said: Jaquan Johnson has been ready to go for more than a year. I hate losing Hyde but Johnson is a good, smart player. If Poyer is able to suit up and Hyde isn't, then Jaquan is more than capable to fill in for Hyde. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Looks to definitely be out for Sunday. Just hope he will be ok and can come back healthy after the bye. Against the best WR duo we will play this season 😡 Ravens did ok with their rookie laden secondary before they imploded in the 4th. Our 2nd stringers are more disciplined and our coaching speaks for itself. It still will be their biggest challenge so far. Hope the front 7 can take over ease the burden. 4 minutes ago, Magox said: If Poyer is able to suit up and Hyde isn't, then Jaquan is more than capable to fill in for Hyde. Agree. He looked really good in camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Another day, another piece of bad news. What the hell is going on between games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, Ralonzo said: Another day, another piece of bad news. What the hell is going on between games this year. Just gotta overcome it all... Bills are seeing what it is like to be a normal NFL team for once with injuries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Hyde is the QB of the defense. Could see some breakdowns without him. I wonder if a player ever gets a 2nd opinion when the team says you’re ok but you want to get your own doctors opinion? People keep saying stuff like this... Hyde is the QB of the defense, Poyer is heart of the defense, Edmunds is another QB of the defense.. ok, cool.. All good players that were all on the field when we got ran over by power teams and thrown on by Mahomes. This Defense is, and will be, defined by the Defensive Line. There's a reason why Beane has been obsessive in addressing it. It hides a whole bunch of flaws and is what matters in the Playoffs. 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Just gotta overcome it all... Bills are seeing what it is like to be a normal NFL team for once with injuries... Fwiw, this is not normal Edited September 22, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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