CorkScrewHill Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just looking at offense and defense ... Cole Beasley, Star Lotoulelai, Daryl Williams, and Emmanuel Sanders never signed with another team and while there was speculation Star and Sanders may be contemplating retirement, neither has as of yet. That leaves Jerry Hughes starting for the Texans and Levi Wallace fighting for a starting job on the Steelers though there was speculation from Steelers media that Akhello Witherspoon was leading that competition (also referenced here https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/predicting-the-steelers-2-deep-depth-chart-of-the-week-1-defense/ss-AA11pjfF#image=8 ) Our depth players that played significant minutes Harrison Phillips will start in Minnesota and Jon Feliciano will start for the Giants and Mitch Trubisky who didn't play significant minutes thankfully is anticipated to start in Pittsburgh to begin the season. Cody Ford is a backup in Arizona, Efe Obada is 3rd string in Washington, while A.J. Klein and Justin Zimmer never found another team. For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. 12 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Jerry Hughes might be my favorite bill over the last 10 years. That being said…. 40>55. The roster didn’t see major overhauls, but did make improvements in certain particular areas (DE, OL, RB, QB, WR). If you wanted to argue the other side of that, you could say that CB MIGHT be weaker than at the beginning of last year, mostly due to two rookies and an injured all-pro. QB….+ RB….+ FB….= WR…+ TE….= OL….+ DE….+ DT….+ LB….= CB….- S……= Specials….= 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I think the Bills have absorbed the Team first concept with no player being bigger than the team including Josh Allen. To be fair, Cole and Star are at the end of the road in their careers and won't sign until as an injury replacement; this allows them to not go through the NFL grind. Also, those four guys were getting paid a lot by the Bills and weren't going to take NFL Minimum wages. The team is incredibly deep and it is visible in the construction of the rosters. Last year we lost our best defensive player in week 10 and yet managed another 9 weeks without any problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Beasley, Sanders, Williams, and Star are vets on the downside of their career. They helped stabilize the Bills' roster when Beane was tearing it down and building it back up and were solid free agent contributors. In each case Beane found younger players to do the job for less at the same or close to the same level. I think it's just the normal churn of an NFL roster in the salary cap era and nothing more. Edited September 3, 2022 by Inigo Montoya 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Jerry Hughes might be my favorite bill over the last 10 years. That being said…. 40>55. Not Kyle Williams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, ganesh said: Not Kyle Williams? Definitely. Having played the position myself, I’ve always been gravitated to edge rushers. KW gets a ton of love and rightfully so. I’ve always felt Jerry didn’t get as much as he deserved 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I think that it is more of a function of age. All of those guys were well into the back nine. The Bills were hoping to squeeze the last bit of juice out of them. The same reason that they aren’t signed is why the Bills moved on. There just isn’t enough left in the tank. Darryl Williams is the only that’s a little surprising and I’d imagine that he’s being a little picky as to where he latches on next. I’d imagine that if a bad team, offered vet minimum, and a starting spot, he’d decline. The same for Beasley. Hughes TOOK the low salary on a bad team. Sanders and Star are going to retire unless they receive godfather offers. I wouldn’t read too much into this. It was an opportunity to replace well-compensated, aging vets, with younger, cheaper players with minimal (if any) drop off. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Definitely. Having played the position myself, I’ve always been gravitated to edge rushers. KW gets a ton of love and rightfully so. I’ve always felt Jerry didn’t get as much as he deserved both Jerry and Kyle couldn't lift their game beyond a certain level at a consistency required for NFL champions. They were the leaders. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Just looking at offense and defense ... Cole Beasley, Star Lotoulelai, Daryl Williams, and Emmanuel Sanders never signed with another team and while there was speculation Star and Sanders may be contemplating retirement, neither has as of yet. That leaves Jerry Hughes starting for the Texans and Levi Wallace fighting for a starting job on the Steelers though there was speculation from Steelers media that Akhello Witherspoon was leading that competition (also referenced here https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/predicting-the-steelers-2-deep-depth-chart-of-the-week-1-defense/ss-AA11pjfF#image=8 ) Our depth players that played significant minutes Harrison Phillips will start in Minnesota and Jon Feliciano will start for the Giants and Mitch Trubisky who didn't play significant minutes thankfully is anticipated to start in Pittsburgh to begin the season. Cody Ford is a backup in Arizona, Efe Obada is 3rd string in Washington, while A.J. Klein and Justin Zimmer never found another team. For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. From my POV, this is a very good thing and needed to happen. We jettisoned people who needed to go. Every year teams get younger, and bring in new talent or develop backups to starting roles. It’s a positive thing as we’ve seen Bates, Boettger, Dane, and others develop over a couple of years. We’re healthy and have very few soft tissue injuries which is a testament to our training staff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I'm surprised at Justin Zimmer. That kid is a beast. You'd think he'd at least be a backup somewhere. 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Jerry Hughes might be my favorite bill over the last 10 years. That being said…. 40>55. I'm with you. It would've been fun seeing both of them getting after opposing QBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 CSH, good post. Roster turnover is inevitable. When only one, maybe 2, of our six lost starters is still starting in the NFL, it doesn't sound like we got weaker. Especially when one of the newly gained starters is a future HOFer. My only concern is that neither of our starting CBs from last season will be playing against Cooper Kupp and the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: CSH, good post. Roster turnover is inevitable. When only one, maybe 2, of our six lost starters is still starting in the NFL, it doesn't sound like we got weaker. Especially when one of the newly gained starters is a future HOFer. My only concern is that neither of our starting CBs from last season will be playing against Cooper Kupp and the Rams. It'll be up to the pass rush to disrupt Stafford. How that goes early in the game will indicate whether we're in for a shoot out or a blow out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Interesting post, thanks @CorkScrewHill I hope that tells us we're better this year. I think that is the case. The one surprise to me is Zimmer. But he did have the knee injury. He was a reliable role player for the Bills--I would judged him more productive for the Bills than Harrison Philips. . . . I always wanted the Bills to give him some snaps at TE or Fullback. He had great speed for a big guy. Would love to have seen what he could he do with the ball in his hands (like how the Ravens use Boyle)? Hopefully he fully recovers and catches on somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Alas, Father Time is still undefeated. Harry was good -not great. The rest may have been here one season too many.. Onward and Upward! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Alas, Father Time is still undefeated. Harry was good -not great. The rest may have been here one season too many.. Onward and Upward! hes doing a bad job with a duche wearing 12 in Fla. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Taking the tires off of a racecar midway through Daytona when you're in the hunt to win - you wouldn't expect them to be thrown on another car in the back of the pack and be valuable. With the exception of Levi, the rest were high mileage guys replaced with fresher options. Edited September 3, 2022 by DasNootz 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, CSBill said: Interesting post, thanks @CorkScrewHill I hope that tells us we're better this year. I think that is the case. The one surprise to me is Zimmer. But he did have the knee injury. He was a reliable role player for the Bills--I would judged him more productive for the Bills than Harrison Philips. . . . I always wanted the Bills to give him some snaps at TE or Fullback. He had great speed for a big guy. Would love to have seen what he could he do with the ball in his hands (like how the Ravens use Boyle)? Hopefully he fully recovers and catches on somewhere. One more thing that crossed my mind as we talk role players, teams generally prefer “their own role players.” Every year we worry about all of these guys that are going to get claimed if we cut them. About 30 guys, total, in the league get claimed. When it comes to the back of the roster, where you’d find a Zimmer/Blackshear/Hodgins/Kumerow/McCloud/Lewis, teams lean towards their own version of those guys. They’ve seen their own guys practice, study, learn the playbook, etc… It’s just easier to keep your own guy with no downside risk than to take on someone else of that caliber and HOPE that theirs an incremental improvement. Edited September 3, 2022 by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Beasley probably wants more than he has been offered. Daryl Williams surprises me a little I guess that also may be a money thing. I mean I get he may not have been that great but to not get offers after starting the whole year is surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Soooo…. we are doomed?!?!!? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: I'm surprised at Justin Zimmer. That kid is a beast. You'd think he'd at least be a backup somewhere. I think he's still recovering from an injury - knee? Wouldn't surprise me if Bills signed him to PS later this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Don't forget Mario Addison. He's currently listed as backing up Hughes in Houston. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: Beasley, Sanders, Williams, and Star are vets on the downside of their career. They helped stabilize the Bills' roster when Beane was tearing it down and building it back up and were solid free agent contributors. In each case Beane found younger players to do the job for less at the same or close to the same level. I think it's just the normal churn of an NFL roster in the salary cap era and nothing more. Replaced by younger, cheaper players with more athletic upside. Von Miller being the exception. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I’ve often mentioned this: If every player was to play for ten years, and they don’t, each season would see 5.3 new players on the roster. And that doesn’t even factor in free agency, and the other ebbs and flows of roster formation. So it looks to me like the Bills are right on schedule. Nothing to see here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: Just looking at offense and defense ... Cole Beasley, Star Lotoulelai, Daryl Williams, and Emmanuel Sanders never signed with another team and while there was speculation Star and Sanders may be contemplating retirement, neither has as of yet. That leaves Jerry Hughes starting for the Texans and Levi Wallace fighting for a starting job on the Steelers though there was speculation from Steelers media that Akhello Witherspoon was leading that competition (also referenced here https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/predicting-the-steelers-2-deep-depth-chart-of-the-week-1-defense/ss-AA11pjfF#image=8 ) Our depth players that played significant minutes Harrison Phillips will start in Minnesota and Jon Feliciano will start for the Giants and Mitch Trubisky who didn't play significant minutes thankfully is anticipated to start in Pittsburgh to begin the season. Cody Ford is a backup in Arizona, Efe Obada is 3rd string in Washington, while A.J. Klein and Justin Zimmer never found another team. For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. We’re incredibly deep now, not last year. We’re deeper at RB, TE, we have a newer, better, younger, more athletic, more talented DL. We’re deeper at LB and CB…. We’re the same at QB and WR and while we have a better OL, We had better depth last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: Just looking at offense and defense ... Cole Beasley, Star Lotoulelai, Daryl Williams, and Emmanuel Sanders never signed with another team and while there was speculation Star and Sanders may be contemplating retirement, neither has as of yet. That leaves Jerry Hughes starting for the Texans and Levi Wallace fighting for a starting job on the Steelers though there was speculation from Steelers media that Akhello Witherspoon was leading that competition (also referenced here https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/predicting-the-steelers-2-deep-depth-chart-of-the-week-1-defense/ss-AA11pjfF#image=8 ) Our depth players that played significant minutes Harrison Phillips will start in Minnesota and Jon Feliciano will start for the Giants and Mitch Trubisky who didn't play significant minutes thankfully is anticipated to start in Pittsburgh to begin the season. Cody Ford is a backup in Arizona, Efe Obada is 3rd string in Washington, while A.J. Klein and Justin Zimmer never found another team. For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. Cole was essentially the third wideout, not sure I would consider that a starter. I guess that depends the matchup. He was also outspoken on vaccinations and I think for some reason that hurt him. Sanders was a vet that was a bridge to Davis and same with Williams and Bates. I do find it interesting how much the staff loved Star but I think he played his way out of the starting lineup and off the team. Age will do this to players and I bet you will see that next year with a couple of guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: Just looking at offense and defense ... Cole Beasley, Star Lotoulelai, Daryl Williams, and Emmanuel Sanders never signed with another team and while there was speculation Star and Sanders may be contemplating retirement, neither has as of yet. That leaves Jerry Hughes starting for the Texans and Levi Wallace fighting for a starting job on the Steelers though there was speculation from Steelers media that Akhello Witherspoon was leading that competition (also referenced here https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/predicting-the-steelers-2-deep-depth-chart-of-the-week-1-defense/ss-AA11pjfF#image=8 ) Our depth players that played significant minutes Harrison Phillips will start in Minnesota and Jon Feliciano will start for the Giants and Mitch Trubisky who didn't play significant minutes thankfully is anticipated to start in Pittsburgh to begin the season. Cody Ford is a backup in Arizona, Efe Obada is 3rd string in Washington, while A.J. Klein and Justin Zimmer never found another team. For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. Really wonder what happened to Daryl Williams. He looked very good for one season. Then poof! Back to JAG. If I had to speculate, I’d guess that he found an advantage that was not sustainable. But again, that is pure conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Jerry Hughes might be my favorite bill over the last 10 years. That being said…. 40>55. The roster didn’t see major overhauls, but did make improvements in certain particular areas (DE, OL, RB, QB, WR). If you wanted to argue the other side of that, you could say that CB MIGHT be weaker than at the beginning of last year, mostly due to two rookies and an injured all-pro. QB….+ RB….+ FB….= WR…+ TE….= OL….+ DE….+ DT….+ LB….= CB….- S……= Specials….= QB….= Josh was about as good as you get last season, not sure how you can expect more RB….=/+ Marginal improvement possible with Cook, but it’s unproven FB….= Sure WR…+ Agree if this is because Davis improved last season TE….= agree OL….= This is a worry. On paper they got better at run blocking and worse at pass blocking. Overall they might be a push, but for this team I think it could be a real negative l. DE….+ Agree. I’d give it a ++ as Miller is a huge addition DT….+ Probably LB….= agree CB….- agree, and it’s a real worry. With Tre coming back from injury there might be a very big drop off S……= agree, though the dings are a worry Specials….= agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Add AJ Klein to the list of Bills regulars the rest of the league has no interest in. With one Telling exception Beane has been great at cutting bait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, DJB said: Soooo…. we are doomed?!?!!? On the contrary my good man 👨 The Bills are so loaded, not only are they letting quality experience walk away, they just paid a TE $3 Mil to come practice with the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. Offensively it all starts with JA17. Defensively, I think we had a good defense last year. I Just don't think we have a great defense like the numbers suggested. We played some bad QB's and bad offenses and that helped out the defensive rankings quite a bit. I expect the defense to take a step back this year. Not a huge surprise because they were ranked #1 last year I think in both yards and points. But they could take a bigger drop back then some realize. Still a good defense but maybe more around 10 or so in the rankings when it is all said and done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Add AJ Klein to the list of Bills regulars the rest of the league has no interest in. With one Telling exception Beane has been great at cutting bait. I think I see what you did there... I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Star, Williams, Sanders....bums Cleared the deadwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Fan Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. 3 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: In each case Beane found younger players to do the job for less at the same or close to the same level. I think it's just the normal churn of an NFL roster in the salary cap era and nothing more. 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ve often mentioned this: If every player was to play for ten years, and they don’t, each season would see 5.3 new players on the roster. And that doesn’t even factor in free agency, and the other ebbs and flows of roster formation. So it looks to me like the Bills are right on schedule. Nothing to see here. I agree. It is normal churn and almost all teams have it. However, the real question is this: Did we get better with our churn or worse? For me the answer to that question is Levi Wallace. I expected him to get a fairly fat contract as a starting corner. When he only got $4M/year, I was taken aback. We made a $3M gamble on a TE coming off an injury. If we wanted Wallace to be our CB2, we would have signed him at that price. That signaled loud and clear that the Bills thought that position was a problem and that they wanted to get better there. When he struggled to win the starting job in Pitt, I think that thought was confirmed. Add to that thought that both the DL and OL have gotten better this year (IMHO) and I think we didn't just get better, we got much better in the churn. Side note - it is fun to have a chance to use the word churn. I kept thinking of Amos Burton as I typed this. Second side note - I do fully expect our defensive stats to be worse this year (because of schedule) even though the defense is better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: Just looking at offense and defense ... Cole Beasley, Star Lotoulelai, Daryl Williams, and Emmanuel Sanders never signed with another team and while there was speculation Star and Sanders may be contemplating retirement, neither has as of yet. That leaves Jerry Hughes starting for the Texans and Levi Wallace fighting for a starting job on the Steelers though there was speculation from Steelers media that Akhello Witherspoon was leading that competition (also referenced here https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/predicting-the-steelers-2-deep-depth-chart-of-the-week-1-defense/ss-AA11pjfF#image=8 ) Our depth players that played significant minutes Harrison Phillips will start in Minnesota and Jon Feliciano will start for the Giants and Mitch Trubisky who didn't play significant minutes thankfully is anticipated to start in Pittsburgh to begin the season. Cody Ford is a backup in Arizona, Efe Obada is 3rd string in Washington, while A.J. Klein and Justin Zimmer never found another team. For a team that is considered incredibly deep (which I agree they are) I find it surprising that only one of our 6 ex starters are expected to start on another team. Perhaps it is a situation where the collection of the parts elevates the individual. Would be interested in others thoughts on this. Too me the biggest upgrade will be Davis replacing Sanders. Sanders was mostly invisible during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Now that the team is turned over and this is beane's team I was hoping to see less pickups of old washed up vets. He got me again this year with the OJ signing. He loves the security going into the draft of having most of his holes filled. We can expect to turn over these old players next year: one or both safeties(probably 1 and 1 over the next 2 years), ~ 2 on the online, 2-3 special team starters That is how we stay competitive: replace 2-3 starters in each of the 3 phases every year with draftees/backups. Then PS players become the new backups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 57 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: QB….= Josh was about as good as you get last season, not sure how you can expect more RB….=/+ Marginal improvement possible with Cook, but it’s unproven FB….= Sure WR…+ Agree if this is because Davis improved last season TE….= agree OL….= This is a worry. On paper they got better at run blocking and worse at pass blocking. Overall they might be a push, but for this team I think it could be a real negative l. DE….+ Agree. I’d give it a ++ as Miller is a huge addition DT….+ Probably LB….= agree CB….- agree, and it’s a real worry. With Tre coming back from injury there might be a very big drop off S……= agree, though the dings are a worry Specials….= agree I was commenting on the state of the roster, not Allen in particular. The QB room is undeniably better with Keenum. They’ve upgraded depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I was commenting on the state of the roster, not Allen in particular. The QB room is undeniably better with Keenum. They’ve upgraded depth. That’s a fair take then. I don’t think much of either Trubisky or Keenum so I’d leave it as a push. I can see the possibility that Keenum is better though. He’s certainly not worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Agree that it is surprising Williams has not signed with another team. Personally, I would prefer Williams as a tackle/guard backup/spot starter than Hart or Von Roten for his starting experience with the Bills, versatility, and the unwritten law which includes that our team NEEDS a "Williams" on this roster for luck and for posterity's sake. Edited September 3, 2022 by Wizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I’m gonna smile internally if our rookie cornerbacks come out and dominate the Rams there has been so much made of our rookies demise before the season even starts yet both have looked excellent and camp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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