NewEra Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Too much money… however I can see them signing OBJ. Yes. Which is why this thread sucks. I agree on OBJ. He’ll miss most of the season and should come cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 That's Edmunds money you're messing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Gives you flexibility to put Diggs in the slot… if it moves McKenzie/Crowder to the bench on a team destined for the SB that just made itself much better with the trade, what is the problem? That being said, I can’t see this happening. So you're moving an outside guy in Diggs who has 230 catches the last two seasons to the slot. And then putting Golladay, on the outside who has 220 catches in his entire 5 year career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Nobody is trading for this guy with his contract. Nobody. 13 mill+ cap hit 13 mill+ cap hit 14 mill+ cap hit all years w significant dead cap if cut or traded too. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/kenny-golladay-21838/ Edited August 23, 2022 by cba fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Ah the off-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Why the f*ck do we need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 3 hours ago, FireChans said: Giants can save $13M against the cap if they traded him today. Obviously his contract is a BAD one and he had a bad year but Joe Judge and them boys made everyone look bad. He may be the best #3 outside WR in the league though. And the Giants may have to offload him for a 7th rounder in 2028. Not with a 72 million dollar contract. They'd have to give us a 2nd or 3rd rder to take that on lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, scuba guy said: Ah the off-season Yup. A time to discuss trades that make no sense for either team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, cba fan said: Nobody is trading for this guy with his contract. Nobody. 13 mill+ cap hit 13 mill+ cap hit 14 mill+ cap hit all years w significant dead cap if cut or traded too. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/kenny-golladay-21838/ With a $21 million dollar cap hit and a $31 million dollar dead cap hit....that would mean the Giants would lost $10 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Except we don’t have “excellent” depth. Right on que, he’s here he’s there he’s every F ing where…, Go Bills!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: With a $21 million dollar cap hit and a $31 million dollar dead cap hit....that would mean the Giants would lost $10 million? if Giants trade him they save 13 mill this year but then have dead cap this year and next year. Over 18 mill of dead cap. Your post numbers no longer in play as we are past that date. go to spotrack and hit the red x on far right to get idea. post 6-1 trade = 2022 Dead Cap: $8,150,000 2023 Dead Cap: $10,200,000 2022 Cap Savings: $13,000,000 Edited August 23, 2022 by cba fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 No. Can't fit him. Don't want him. Don't need him. Same applies to Beckham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Hasn’t Goladay been kind of a disappointment for the team? The next team to sign him shouldn’t give him a huge contract, but there’s a big difference between Matt Stafford and Daniel Jones. Golladay hasn’t impressed, but the Giants are a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 13 hours ago, marck said: Why would we take on a ridiculous contract for a player at a position of depth on our roster? OP has him in on his fantasy team…. 12 hours ago, BarleyNY said: This is very misleading. While it is true that the Giants would save $13M in cap space this season (despite $8.15M in dead cap), they’d also have to eat another $10.2M in dead cap next season. I have to think that it is worth $2.8M for them to see how he does with the new coaches. Even if he has a bad season, he will have another chance next year with a different QB. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/kenny-golladay-21838/ i agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Depends how big he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 The Bills already have a big-bodied receiver with good hands that doesn't separate particularly well... and who has a cap hit of $705,000 for 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Like in a suitcase? Maybe.. depends on how flexible he is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 I’m sorry but does @FireChans ever even come back to these **** topics he starts or is that his MO? Far as I can tell it is; why entertain this BS, even in the “offseason”? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 I'm not giving up anything earlier than a 7th in 2029. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemhoff Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Shakir dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 The real question is....could the Bills fit him up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: I’m sorry but does @FireChans ever even come back to these **** topics he starts or is that his MO? Far as I can tell it is; why entertain this BS, even in the “offseason”? I put assess in the seats. I’m the straw that stirs the drink. Edited August 24, 2022 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 About the only person I can see us adding barring injuries is OBJ. We are too deep at most position groups, and tight against the cap. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) As it stands, the Bills already have a strong roster. Too many good players and not enough roster spots. They are also very tight against the salary cap with a handful of starting players who they may not be able to re-sign in the offseason. Over the next few months, it's likely that injuries will pop-up. It's also possible that some players will regress, and certain position(s) could suddenly become a weakness on this roster. That is what happened last year on the O-line especially. In my opinion, the smart play is to wait. See how the first several games play-out, and identify where the team potentially needs help. That's when Beane can make a last-minute splash (if-needed). And if we don't need anything, he can use the extra cap space to extend upcoming free agents early. What happens if Stefon Diggs, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jamison Crowder and Khalil Shakir all have fantastic seasons AND all manage to stay healthy? But then Tre White has a setback, and Kaiir Elam/Christian Benford show rookie struggles? This is a totally plausible scenario. It would be foolish to blow all of our cap space on Kenny Golladay or Odell Beckham Jr. (who may not be needed), so that we can't get secondary help. Edited August 24, 2022 by mjt328 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, ddaryl said: McKenzie and Crowder are slots... Yeah so I guess by #3 I am thinking Outside Diggs and Davis reliever.. I dont know why people thing the Bills would want Golladay,OBJ etc. They have a good WR group, very little cap space,have their own deserving players to pay,and these 2 are not exactly process guys. Edited August 24, 2022 by Georgie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 9:35 AM, FireChans said: Giants can save $13M against the cap if they traded him today. Obviously his contract is a BAD one and he had a bad year but Joe Judge and them boys made everyone look bad. He may be the best #3 outside WR in the league though. And the Giants may have to offload him for a 7th rounder in 2028. Nope… first off contractually I don’t think could make it work. Second, the knock on Golloday has been his inability to create separation. These type of receivers have not done well with Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Georgie said: I dont know why people thing the Bills would want Golladay,OBJ etc. They have a good WR group, very little cap space,have their own deserving players to pay,and these 2 are not exactly process guys. I want OBJ, but I'm getting to the point where I have no idea where he'd play. If I had my way... I'd probably cut/trade Crowder and sign OBJ. Both are only here for one year. I'd rather have OBJ later this year (even though Crowder is a legit WR) This allows Diggs/Davis/McKenzie to lock down their roles/flow with Josh and this Offense. Shakir becomes the primary back-up for all 3 spots. Start the season with Hodgins and Kumerow as WR5 and WR6. Then when OBJ gets healthy, we rotate him in with Shakir.. and if anyone struggles/gets banged up for any period of time, he gives us that insurance. Edited August 24, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 8 hours ago, FireChans said: I put assess in the seats. I’m the straw that stirs the drink. You’re certainly stirring something. So basically this is just BS trolling - you’ve no interest in engaging or debating this topic, your little ego just wants to count up the emojis and responses you get. Great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: You’re certainly stirring something. So basically this is just BS trolling - you’ve no interest in engaging or debating this topic, your little ego just wants to count up the emojis and responses you get. Great. No I actually thought it was a reasonable idea. He is better than Jake Kumerow as boundary depth. He is cheap to acquire from an asset standpoint. What’s not to like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 🤦♂️ Please Stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 All Golladay knows is how to lose. Already got one of them WRs in Crowder, don't need more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, Rico said: All Golladay knows is how to lose. Already got one of them WRs in Crowder, don't need more. Ouchhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 11 hours ago, FireChans said: I put assess in the seats. I’m the straw that stirs the drink. 1 hour ago, FireChans said: No I actually thought it was a reasonable idea. He is better than Jake Kumerow as boundary depth. He is cheap to acquire from an asset standpoint. What’s not to like He’s better than Jake Kumerow as boundary depth…,,, what’s not to like is his contract……wake up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: He’s better than Jake Kumerow as boundary depth…,,, what’s not to like is his contract……wake up His contract is the reason he’d come cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, FireChans said: His contract is the reason he’d come cheap. His contract is the reason we wouldn’t have to give up assets….while giving up our most important asset going forward…..cap space. So cheap in assets given up. Very expensive in cap space. He’s not going to sign another contract unless of benefits him…..which involves giving him more money while spreading it out over a longer period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Why ? We have so many good WR now that some are going to have to get cut keep who we have don't worry about getting more . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) Is this the most recent Golladay thread? Three games in and do you really want McKittrick as your 2nd/3rd reception option in the endzone? There's a lot of hilarious off season dismissal of offensive talent in this thread and I don't think that's the way you do it. We look to be 1 or 2 offensive pieces short. I don't know who else is possible but this guy scored 11 TDs in a season and his coach seems to hate him. Edited September 29, 2022 by Nelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 On 8/24/2022 at 5:22 PM, FireChans said: No I actually thought it was a reasonable idea. He is better than Jake Kumerow as boundary depth. He is cheap to acquire from an asset standpoint. What’s not to like The awful contract the awful production I don’t see what there is to like? “Oh look a guy who was good at fantasy once can be had for a low draft pick” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/25/2022 at 12:10 PM, T master said: Why ? We have so many good WR now that some are going to have to get cut keep who we have don't worry about getting more . No offense to this poster but this was the consensus a month ago, and look at how poorly it's already aged. "So many good WR"? Nah, we have an incredible QB, with one guaranteed good WR right now. 14 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The awful contract the awful production I don’t see what there is to like? “Oh look a guy who was good at fantasy once can be had for a low draft pick” The fantasy argument is pretty dead considering the amount of injuries already this year. For me at least, I think it's more like, hey this guy is a living breathing wide receiver that put up 11 TDs in a season before and we need some help. I'm completely open to better ideas. If Gabe gets or stays hurt, or even worse (god forbid) Diggs gets hurt are you cool with more Kumerow and, uh, McKenzie? That's about it. Edited September 29, 2022 by Nelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Would much rather see us working shakur Onto the field People get so wrapped up in free agents the best way to get players is draft well and then fill in those gaps with an expense of free agents or difference making free agents when will the other von Miller’s types or Xavier Rhodes types Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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