Help me understand an OBJ trade

[Captain Caveman]

17 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

Well, part of the benefit of signing him now is he could go onto the PUP list.

 

Are you sure he can go on PUP list - I can't think of any examples of where a new signee goes directly to PUP, I've only seen it used on players already under contract.  I believe the signings are usually dependent on a physical for this reason.

[That's No Moon]

3 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

Are you sure he can go on PUP list - I can't think of any examples of where a new signee goes directly to PUP, I've only seen it used on players already under contract.  I believe the signings are usually dependent on a physical for this reason.

Either way, he can still go onto IR.  He'd count against the current 85 man limit but you still wouldn't have to cut anyone that mattered.

 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Tipster19 said:

If the Bills are interested in OBJ then I would think that they would and should wait a few games to assess what they already have. What I would be concerned with is the team chemistry. I really don’t know what to expect but Diggs considers himself, and rightly so, the alpha dog and I would think that that could be a potential issue. In addition to that Davis wants the ball more and has come right out and said that. McKenzie imo is going to have a HUGH year and personally I would like to give him the full opportunity to perform. I realize that that’s not the popular choice so I understand that it might not be the right decision. 

We know that Beane talks to Josh regularly.  He’s said as much openly on Pat McAfee’s show.  
 

I have to imagine if Josh, or Diggs, or anyone of high importance, viewed OBJ as a potential locker room issue, the message would be relayed. 
 

The fact nobody on this team (cough, Von, cough) seems to have been told to shut up about OBJ, means to me that Josh and Diggs etc., are good with it. 

[Captain Caveman]

2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Either way, he can still go onto IR.  He'd count against the current 85 man limit but you still wouldn't have to cut anyone that mattered.

 

If he goes on IR now he's lost for the season - to go on short term IR he'd have to take up a roster spot amongst the initial 53 man roster.  I'm not saying they shouldn't do this, but I don't think they can just add him without any roster implications.

[That's No Moon]

7 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

If he goes on IR now he's lost for the season - to go on short term IR he'd have to take up a roster spot amongst the initial 53 man roster.  I'm not saying they shouldn't do this, but I don't think they can just add him without any roster implications.

That rule changed this year I think

[Jauronimo]

35 minutes ago, Draconator said:

The only way Obi Bon Jacoby signs with the Bills is due to injury of someone else. Too many good players in our WR core for really a rental player. 

I am willing to risk losing Hodgins to a PS claim for a super bowl this year.

[Apocalypse Nuts]

Gotta say I am in favor of signing OBJ now.  I hadn’t realized before the real impact he could have.  He could be pretty deadly especially with all the other weapons this offense already has.  As long as he’s not a distraction.

[Simon Says]

If OBJ signs a one year ( or half,or quarter year) "prove it deal", he will certainly want to play, to establish his value for a richer ,long term deal in 2023.

Let's say he remains unsigned:he could rehab,get in shape etc., hoping a team has a late- season need. 

If the Bills are running away with the AFC East,getting good production from their WRS....why would they need him?

The only way I see Bills signing him is in case of an injury to Diggs or Davis.

[Captain Caveman]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

That rule changed this year I think

It's been like that for a few years, I think since they introduced the new short term IR rules

[Success]

Honestly, I'd rather have Hodgins than OBJ. Someone who is homegrown, enthusiastic, talented & will go all out on every play, every time he's on the field.

 

Is OBJ a better receiver?  Yes, and easily.  But Hodgins is my choice.

 

[slipkid]

17 hours ago, mrags said:

 

I just think it’s completely lazy to type FA as opposed to free agent. It’s 7 additional characters. And typing, that takes about 1-2 seconds at the most. Even with my fat fingers and my iPhone I can’t type that whole thing out in about 3 seconds at the most. 
 

laziness is destroying this nation. 

Actually, it’s less than seven keystrokes if you consider the extra work you did to get the uppercase FA and the extra “n” added to the “a.”

 

But I’m not an NASA engineer, so what do I know?

[Pete]

18 hours ago, mrags said:

 

 

laziness is destroying this nation. 

so is pettiness

[mrags]

22 minutes ago, Pete said:

so is pettiness

Yes. It is 

[NoSaint]

21 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

I’m not saying I want this or anything but if we were to grab OBJ, how in the heck would we need to change the projected roster to fit him in?  
 

we are pretty loaded and seeing promise among our group of rookies.  Even with Crowder having a bit of a slump in game 1 I project him on the 53.
 

I don’t see room for OBJ without blowing up something.  What am I missing?  Looking to better minds than mine on this, because I do believe it’s very interesting for the SB push later in the season.  

the calculus is simple.

 

remember that chiefs game 2 years ago with our whole wr group hobbling around?

 

if this is our year, you insulate against everything you can. 
 

im Not head over heels for OBJ, but WR is an impact position and he’s both talented and experienced.

[Tipster19]

If anyone was to go I’d rather it be Kumerow before Hodgins. Some people have it and some people don’t. I believe Hodgins has it, it was kind of painful watching Kumerow play offense the other day.

3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

I am willing to risk losing Hodgins to a PS claim for a super bowl this year.

 

[djp14150]

Sign him to the practice squad

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, Georgie said:

If OBJ signs a one year ( or half,or quarter year) "prove it deal", he will certainly want to play, to establish his value for a richer ,long term deal in 2023.

Let's say he remains unsigned:he could rehab,get in shape etc., hoping a team has a late- season need. 

If the Bills are running away with the AFC East,getting good production from their WRS....why would they need him?

The only way I see Bills signing him is in case of an injury to Diggs or Davis.

he’d also be an expiring contract and likely to be paid elsewhere

 

::comp pick::

[Stranded in Boston]

2 hours ago, slipkid said:

Actually, it’s less than seven keystrokes if you consider the extra work you did to get the uppercase FA and the extra “n” added to the “a.”

 

But I’m not an NASA engineer, so what do I know?

My brother is a bona fide, real life NASA engineer … I BS you not. In fact (ahem), he may (or may not) have been the one who placed a secret “Go Bills” message on the Mars Perseverence Rover. I will check with him on this. 😀

Edited August 18, 2022 by Stranded in Boston

[Draconator]

4 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

I am willing to risk losing Hodgins to a PS claim for a super bowl this year.

We can get to and win the Super Bowl without OBJ. Would he help ensure it? Yes of course, but he's not critical to our success. 

[wppete]

OBJ will have plenty of choices when he is healthy and ready. Let’s see if Buffalo attempts to sign him. 

[Dr.Sack]

Depends on his rehab, but assuming he’s ready by Nov/Dec he will sign with makes an acceptable offer, and there being mutual interest. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I would wait till our bye week before considering signing OBJ. By then we should have a good idea if Davis has fit well into his larger role in the offense and if Shakir, McKenzie and Crowder are playing well enough. 

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I would wait till our bye week before considering signing OBJ. By then we should have a good idea if Davis has fit well into his larger role in the offense and if Shakir, McKenzie and Crowder are playing well enough. 

 

I honestly have close to zero possibility that Davis won’t perform. My main concern is injury, which we all know happens every year to some degree. But I agree with you on the wait and see approach. No telling what the picture might look like in a few months. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I honestly have close to zero possibility that Davis won’t perform. My main concern is injury, which we all know happens every year to some degree. But I agree with you on the wait and see approach. No telling what the picture might look like in a few months. 

 

I have the same feeling you do. I think Gabe actually has a chance of having a monster year. 1200+ yards 15+ TD's type of year.

[Behindenemylines]

3 hours ago, Georgie said:

If OBJ signs a one year ( or half,or quarter year) "prove it deal", he will certainly want to play, to establish his value for a richer ,long term deal in 2023.

Let's say he remains unsigned:he could rehab,get in shape etc., hoping a team has a late- season need. 

If the Bills are running away with the AFC East,getting good production from their WRS....why would they need him?

The only way I see Bills signing him is in case of an injury to Diggs or Davis.

One thought I had related to this is teams late season, who now have a fairly good idea of our offense now would need to game plan differently for OBJ.   It may give us an advantage late in season when playoff implications are at hand. 

[Augie]

32 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

I have the same feeling you do. I think Gabe actually has a chance of having a monster year. 1200+ yards 15+ TD's type of year.

 

I agree Gabe could do that, but I can’t forget OBJ just might have been the Super Bowl MVP had he not been injured. Adding extra weapons for a shot at a Lombardi Trophy works for me.  And he can win the SB MVP for all I care! 

 

EDIT: It’s almost like the NBA now, lets stack a team to buy a trophy, much like Von and OBJ last year. I have to say, I really hate that………unless it’s OUR TROPHY!!!    

 

 

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Edited August 18, 2022 by Augie

[Warriorspikes51]

13 hours ago, Success said:

Honestly, I'd rather have Hodgins than OBJ. Someone who is homegrown, enthusiastic, talented & will go all out on every play, every time he's on the field.

 

Is OBJ a better receiver?  Yes, and easily.  But Hodgins is my choice.

 

 

I'm sorry this mindset makes no sense. You'd rather have a guy who has been on our practice squad a few years instead of a game breaking WR who just had 9 for 113 in the NFC title game and 3 for 52 and a TD before acl tear in SB???

[DCbillsfan]

10 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

I have the same feeling you do. I think Gabe actually has a chance of having a monster year. 1200+ yards 15+ TD's type of year.

Those are huge numbers.  Not sure if Davis reaches them but believe he will have a strong year that nets him a contract extension this upcoming off-season.

[HOUSE]

 

Odell Beckham Jr. has been pretty open about his interest in joining either the Los Angeles Rams or Buffalo Bills this season. Though no deal is imminent with either team, those seem to be the frontrunners to land the talented free-agent receiver.

Coincidentally, the Rams will face the Bills in the season opener on Thursday. If Beckham wants a simple way to pick his next team, he should just sign with the winner.

 

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/06/odell-beckham-rams-bills-signing-week-1-game/

[Greg S]

I wouldn't mind it for this year only. He won't play until later in the year anyway. If he gets healthy and can help the Bills win a championship then that would be great. But let him sign his next big contract somewhere else. He comes with a history of injuries as well as being a headcase. 

[Freddie's Dead]

OBJ Bowl... I'm INtrigued.

[HOUSE]

If he is smart he sits out the entire season. He has 2 ACLs in a row.

To expensive for me with the injuries

[WMDman]

oh now we HAVE to win...

[HOUSE]

3 minutes ago, WMDman said:

oh now we HAVE to win...

 

The Odell Beckham Bowl

[Beast]

There are always diva wide receivers on ***** teams that want to be traded. In fact, healthy ones.

 

Lets see who's available at the deadline and what positions we may need.

 

Hopefully, OBJ is not a need.

Edited September 6, 2022 by Beast

[costrovs]

5 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

 

The Odell Beckham Bowl

You down with O.B.B.?!?

[Just Jack]

2 minutes ago, costrovs said:

You down with O.B.B.?!?

 

Yeah you know me

[LABILLBACKER]

The Bills don't even have enough cap room to even consider what he would demand for half a season. 

Edited September 6, 2022 by LABILLBACKER

[KDIGGZ]

The twist will be that neither team wants him after 2 acl injuries and he has to go play with Tua for vet min

[HOUSE]

9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

The Bills don't even have enough cap room to even consider what he would demand for half a season. 

He will probably play 3 or 4 regular season games + the playoffs, he won't get big bucks on a 1 year deal.