Mr. WEO Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: Put the Patriots in there with the Lions...not the ones from Detroit! Don't put the Bills in there with Jaguars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 19 hours ago, Augie said: I suggest we find out! A life size Josh statue would be pretty huge. How about Josh and a Bison BIGGER than Paul Bunyan and Babe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 20 hours ago, Augie said: What might be possible is some kind of shuttle/light rail from downtown. I’m NOT an expert on WNY or the obstacles related to connecting downtown to the stadium, but it would be more practical than building out around the stadium, it seems. As a rail officiantanto the line by the stadium basically isn't used anymore. Back in the 90s the Amtrak Bills train would drop fans off in Depew and they took busses in from there. An extension off the line from the stadium was proposed I have the concepts on my phone but it never came to pass. The line goes through Lackawanna which up to there is not much of an issue. The problem would be after that at Tift Farm as there are two yards and over 70 plus trains daily to contend with. You would need to spend a considerable sum of cash to build a flyover to connect into the city and another bridge over the buffalo river, but if you want a train connection that is your best bet as the major railroads will want nothing to do with the hassle of passenger trains running through. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills fan since 87 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, corta765 said: As a rail officiantanto the line by the stadium basically isn't used anymore. Back in the 90s the Amtrak Bills train would drop fans off in Depew and they took busses in from there. An extension off the line from the stadium was proposed I have the concepts on my phone but it never came to pass. The line goes through Lackawanna which up to there is not much of an issue. The problem would be after that at Tift Farm as there are two yards and over 70 plus trains daily to contend with. You would need to spend a considerable sum of cash to build a flyover to connect into the city and another bridge over the buffalo river, but if you want a train connection that is your best bet as the major railroads will want nothing to do with the hassle of passenger trains running through. Sheldon Cooper? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 5:17 AM, Steel City Mafia said: Thanks Sal! In other new, we are also close to celebrating Labor Day this September. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, Bills fan since 87 said: Sheldon Cooper? Is that you? A box fell on my head at UPS six years ago. Now I just collect disability and ride trains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, chongli said: Thanks Sal! In other new, we are also close to celebrating Labor Day this September. 😁 Not to mention, why doesn’t Sal kiss his ass a little more by including all his various titles? Wouldn’t “Bills exec Ron…” been sufficient? 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: is this quote from like 2002? He left it in his car 20 years ago. You never know what you'll find when you're digging for change. It's probably a better find than the old french fry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Guess I'm not getting my hotels OR my Goat Island stadium...maybe some day... 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Heitz said: Guess I'm not getting my hotels OR my Goat Island stadium...maybe some day... Maybe next time. Take good care of yourself, it may be a while! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 I knew they should have put the new stadium in Dunkirk. They would at least have a Dollar General in the parking lot. It's not a hotel, but its a start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Heitz said: Guess I'm not getting my hotels OR my Goat Island stadium...maybe some day... Now THAT would have really been something! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) Every day that goes by, we are a little closer….Ron R. Edited August 11, 2022 by BTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 It took 3 years to build MetLife. What is the goal or date they want construction to begin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, Greg S said: It took 3 years to build MetLife. What is the goal or date they want construction to begin? Last I heard, begins in 2023 and completes in 2026 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Last I heard, begins in 2023 and completes in 2026 Yep, Raccuia (sp?) said ready to open the 2026 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Last I heard, begins in 2023 and completes in 2026 I’d say that’s about right. Remember, this has to be done in phases because they also have to demolish Rich Stadium and redevelop that land into a parking lot. It’ll all depend on what time of year they get started, but the fact that we’re already in mid August 2022 and we’ve yet to see any renderings tells me they need to step on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ_BillsFan Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Last I heard, begins in 2023 and completes in 2026 the fighting hasn’t started yet, it’s coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, SRQ_BillsFan said: the fighting hasn’t started yet, it’s coming. Don't know what that means 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I’d say that’s about right. Remember, this has to be done in phases because they also have to demolish Rich Stadium and redevelop that land into a parking lot. It’ll all depend on what time of year they get started, but the fact that we’re already in mid August 2022 and we’ve yet to see any renderings tells me they need to step on it! I'm pretty sure they've had a timeline with a general date for the first renderings. I don't think this is an indication of any change to the timeline, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Very, very, very close now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Don't know what that means I'm pretty sure they've had a timeline with a general date for the first renderings. I don't think this is an indication of any change to the timeline, either way. Goat Many on here know that I’m a practicing architect. I’ll guarantee you they have a timeline. It doesn’t mean they’re going to meet it. What most people think of artist’s renderings are actually done by the architects, and they really don’t take that long to prepare. What takes lots and lots of time are the blueprints (which aren’t called that anymore…they’re called construction drawings). When you fall behind on the those early renderings, it’s really hard to make up the time during the preparation of construction drawings. Now I’m not saying they’re behind but they’re definitely going to need to giddy up. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Very, very, very close now. we're closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 What's going to happen first? Renderings or OBJ signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, Gugny said: What's going to happen first? Renderings or OBJ signing? A rendering of OBJ signing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 18 hours ago, Heitz said: Guess I'm not getting my hotels OR my Goat Island stadium...maybe some day... Would really simplify the TV production obligatory shot of the Falls during the broadcast 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 ^ This guy gets it... Also, ARE WE THERE YET?? Definitely need to see this thing before the opener so we can all commiserate in Hammer's and B word about what we don't like with the renders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Heitz said: ^ This guy gets it... Also, ARE WE THERE YET?? Definitely need to see this thing before the opener so we can all commiserate in Hammer's and B word about what we don't like with the renders! It’s going to be the NFL’s next marketing masterpiece. The unveiling of stadium renderings at half time of the opening game of the season. Move over schedule release day and draft combine… 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Speaking of Hammer, just curious, I wonder if he was approached by PSE or the county to sell his property? @Hammers Lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, BTB said: Speaking of Hammer, just curious, I wonder if he was approached by PSE or the county to sell his property? @Hammers Lot per the man himself: 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I am sure it will be soon if they want to break ground and have the stadium open in 2026 Buffalo Bills football season. I am not a fan of many of the choices that where made for the new Bills stadium but what is done is done. I think the big part of the Bills stadium show is the natural grass decision in Buffalo in a snow belt good luck get your popcorn ready. I wonder how long the NFL owners will let that go on with PSE wanting natural grass if it is anything like Bills football at War Memorial Stadium? Even UB Bulls football who home season ends the weekend after Thanksgiving got rid of grass at UB Stadium years ago it is expensive to maintain and it is Buffalo for artificial playing surface. It isn’t just the snow it is the rain we get and lack of natural sunshine in the winter Buffalo doesn’t do grass in the winter well. To me this is like playing baseball in Houston with a open air stadium full time. The old Houston Colt .45’s before they changed their name to Houston Astros played in a open air stadium in Houston. It wasn’t just the heat why Houston Astros don’t play outside in the summer time it was a bug paradise in the old Houston Colt .45 stadium read your sports history learn from it. There are reasons why something isn’t done in one place or the other sports wise. I think PSE is shortsighted playing on natural grass in a Buffalo snow belt hope I am wrong in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: I am sure it will be soon if they want to break ground and have the stadium open in 2026 Buffalo Bills football season. I am not a fan of many of the choices that where made for the new Bills stadium but what is done is done. I think the big part of the Bills stadium show is the natural grass decision in Buffalo in a snow belt good luck get your popcorn ready. I wonder how long the NFL owners will let that go on with PSE wanting natural grass if it is anything like Bills football at War Memorial Stadium? Even UB Bulls football who home season ends the weekend after Thanksgiving got rid of grass at UB Stadium years ago it is expensive to maintain and it is Buffalo for artificial playing surface. It isn’t just the snow it is the rain we get and lack of natural sunshine in the winter Buffalo doesn’t do grass in the winter well. To me this is like playing baseball in Houston with a open air stadium full time. The old Houston Colt .45’s before they changed their name to Houston Astros played in a open air stadium in Houston. It wasn’t just the heat why Houston Astros don’t play outside in the summer time it was a bug paradise in the old Houston Colt .45 stadium read your sports history learn from it. There are reasons why something isn’t done in one place or the other sports wise. I think PSE is shortsighted playing on natural grass in a Buffalo snow belt hope I am wrong in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo I love tradition and the history of the game and I get that part of it. In all other ways, I agree with you fully. Show me a stadium that operates under the weather conditions of the Buffalo Bills with natural grass. They don’t exist because it doesn’t make sense. Edited August 11, 2022 by MiltonWaddams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: I am sure it will be soon if they want to break ground and have the stadium open in 2026 Buffalo Bills football season. I am not a fan of many of the choices that where made for the new Bills stadium but what is done is done. I think the big part of the Bills stadium show is the natural grass decision in Buffalo in a snow belt good luck get your popcorn ready. I wonder how long the NFL owners will let that go on with PSE wanting natural grass if it is anything like Bills football at War Memorial Stadium? Even UB Bulls football who home season ends the weekend after Thanksgiving got rid of grass at UB Stadium years ago it is expensive to maintain and it is Buffalo for artificial playing surface. It isn’t just the snow it is the rain we get and lack of natural sunshine in the winter Buffalo doesn’t do grass in the winter well. To me this is like playing baseball in Houston with a open air stadium full time. The old Houston Colt .45’s before they changed their name to Houston Astros played in a open air stadium in Houston. It wasn’t just the heat why Houston Astros don’t play outside in the summer time it was a bug paradise in the old Houston Colt .45 stadium read your sports history learn from it. There are reasons why something isn’t done in one place or the other sports wise. I think PSE is shortsighted playing on natural grass in a Buffalo snow belt hope I am wrong in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said: I love tradition and the history of the game and I get that part of it. In all other ways, I agree with you fully. Show me a stadium that operates under the weather conditions of the Buffalo Bills with natural grass. They don’t exist because it doesn’t make sense. https://turfmagazine.com/lawn-care/packers-lambeau-field-kentucky-bluegrass/ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: https://turfmagazine.com/lawn-care/packers-lambeau-field-kentucky-bluegrass/ It doesn't snow nearly as much in Green Bay. I'm wondering a couple things about a grass field. First, with what they are describing about the stadium all being above ground, steep, with a partial cover that means big shadows. Grass needs light to grow even if you keep the ground warm. The sun angle in WNY is already low in the winter. The season now runs nearly all the way to February. Are they putting grow lights in? If not how will the grass ever heal at all? Second, if you are keeping the ground warm so the grass grows how do you get the equipment on it to clean off large snowfalls without rutting up the unfrozen field? Third, if their thought is to resod frequently in the winter where on Earth are they going to truck sod in from and how do they expect that sod not to die, or at least go dormant, in transit? How do you water it in effectively when it's below freezing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 23 hours ago, Heitz said: Guess I'm not getting my hotels OR my Goat Island stadium...maybe some day... That’s the next stadium in 2076. The Falls will have moved a few more inches further back by then to really make it more dramatic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 First rendering of the seating, I think it might be a zoomed in view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: per the man himself: Why are there haters of Hammers lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Why are there haters of Hammers lot? Likely because he has rules to be in his lot (rightfully so). I've never been but I'm sure people have been tossed because of drunken stupidity while tailgating and complained about it. Go to the ECC parking lot if you want to set yourself on fire while doing funnels and dizzy bat. It's the wild west out there. Edited August 11, 2022 by The Wiz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Third, if their thought is to resod frequently in the winter where on Earth are they going to truck sod in from and how do they expect that sod not to die, or at least go dormant, in transit? How do you water it in effectively when it's below freezing? Why, Batavia of course. Batavia Turf | Farms - The Genesee County Chamber of Commerce (geneseeny.com) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Goat Many on here know that I’m a practicing architect. I’ll guarantee you they have a timeline. It doesn’t mean they’re going to meet it. What most people think of artist’s renderings are actually done by the architects, and they really don’t take that long to prepare. What takes lots and lots of time are the blueprints (which aren’t called that anymore…they’re called construction drawings). When you fall behind on the those early renderings, it’s really hard to make up the time during the preparation of construction drawings. Now I’m not saying they’re behind but they’re definitely going to need to giddy up. If they're not behind, then why do they need to giddy up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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