Bull Dog WGR Rant from Last Night

[Buffalo03]

2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

I was not even disagreeing with you - just pointing out that adults have more means and options than little kids to get this crap if they really want it

Yes, I agree. But why should I go online and pay hundreds of dollars for an autograph if I can get something signed for free? Adults can go to a signing event if they want. I don't need the autograph that badly. Would it be cool to get? Sure. If I can't get it, will I be ok? Absolutely. But all these people with this "you no good piece of trash" attitude about getting something signed is beyond ridiculous

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

I think it was Schoop who wanted the autograph….the phone call was all “bait and switch”

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Your an adult go use the money from your adult job to buy one.  Let the kids meet the players.  So odd to me when adults, especially adults out of their 20's idolize athletes who are 20, 30 or 40 years younger than them.  Its borderline weird.

I idolize Josh Allen and I’m past 20 ! 😢

[Dopey]

Cut the guy some slack. Maybe he's a kid at heart.🤣

The mistake was calling a radio show to complain about it.

Personally, I don't give a 💩 if a grown man seeks an autograph. None of my business and none of yours.

[Mrbojanglezs]

After listening to the audio the op saying going off was very overstated

[Dopey]

4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

same with jersey wearing really. Why would I want to as a nearly 50 year old dude wear some other dude's name on my back?

 

No problem with wearing t-shirts, hoodies, hats, whatever. But jerseys have no appeal at this point

 

I still wear my Bruce Smith jersey and I'm 55. Not sure what the issue is. Why would someone pay almost $100 for a Nike shirt? Oh, right, pay Nike to advertise for them. Some of you all get up in arms over silly 💩

Edited July 28, 2022 by Dopey

[RyanC883]

5 hours ago, JDubya76 said:

^^^ This is what the training camp autograph line is for. It’s about the kids.  I remember going to Kelly’s first training camp in 86 and getting his, Greg Bell’s and Bruce Smith’s autograph. I have no clue where any of the autographs are currently but I will always remember the interaction between 13 year old me and my “heros”. They were all super nice.

 

Knox is the man.  

[Beast]

2 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Interesting comments on adults and autographs. I will never ask for one from any celebrity. I think the whole thing is kind of stupid.

 

But….27 years ago I went to camp at Fredonia with my wife, sister, niece and nephew. 
Since I had a basement man cave with a bar and few sports items displayed, thought it would be cool to get one of those souvenir Bills-logo footballs for the room.  I bought the ball and asked a couple Bills to sign it thinking that would add to the look.  
the 2 Bills both reluctantly signed, but not before giving me this ‘eat sh!t’ stare that made me feel about this big. 
I felt like saying ‘you self centered douchbags’ 

Both were o-lineman. One is dead now. Screw him. 

 

Had to have been Kent Hull? I think he's the only o-lineman that has passed from the 1995 team. JMO but the guy did sign for you and you are saying "screw him" regarding him being dead...sounds like you have serious issues.

Edited July 29, 2022 by Beast

[Mat68]

Idk.  I work in Gainesville Fl.  I run a dealership.  We get everything from coaches and players from colegant to Professional.   They are just people.  Im never one to get a photo or anything.  Just let em be.  Thank em for there business because they can take it anywhere and let em be.  

[BillsFanNC]

2 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

After listening to the audio the op saying going off was very overstated

 

Did you hear day 2? He definitely went off then.

[BillsFanNC]

3 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Interesting comments on adults and autographs. I will never ask for one from any celebrity. I think the whole thing is kind of stupid.

 

But….27 years ago I went to camp at Fredonia with my wife, sister, niece and nephew. 
Since I had a basement man cave with a bar and few sports items displayed, thought it would be cool to get one of those souvenir Bills-logo footballs for the room.  I bought the ball and asked a couple Bills to sign it thinking that would add to the look.  
the 2 Bills both reluctantly signed, but not before giving me this ‘eat sh!t’ stare that made me feel about this big. 
I felt like saying ‘you self centered douchbags’ 

Both were o-lineman. One is dead now. Screw him. 

 

So they signed it for you, but you didn't like the 'tude they gave you while doing so. Ok.

 

I wonder why anyone would get the idea that these guys can't win no matter what they do.

[Beast]

34 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

It’s not a quiz show. That wasn’t really the point. Just thought it was crappy to treat a fan- no matter what age- like dirt. We’re the ones who contribute to their comfortable lifestyle, so show a little humility. 

 

No, it's not a quiz show here. Not unless you start throwing out clues as to who someone may or may not be. Did you think people wouldn't speculate or try to figure out who it was?

[Since1981]

I never really thought about it until now!!  But anyone >30 pushes for Knox auto or a dumb fowl ball = loser. Man, you need a real life. 

[Kirby Jackson]

If you’re an adult and seek autographs or feel that you’re entitled to them, I hate you. Grow up

[billsherd]

11 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

"Thanks for getting us the boost in the Neilson Audio ratings!  Here's $20.  Now go out to the lobby and call us today about parking at training camp."

I have thought about this many times. I wonder how often this kinda set calls happens.

[badassgixxer05]

11 hours ago, Warcodered said:

It's just realistic that they can't sign for everyone, and if someone has to miss out it's better if it's the adults.

But 90% of the kids arent even fans, they are just there watching because their parents are fans.

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

If you’re an adult and seek autographs or feel that you’re entitled to them, I hate you. Grow up

Ive seen grown adults fist fight over matchbox cars in the toy isle. We all have our own obsessions... lol

[BADOLBILZ]

 

At least this autograph seeking geek has made a lot of people in this thread feel better about themselves. 

 

 

[Maynard]

11 hours ago, teef said:

i just let a nipple accidentally slip out, and it's autographs galore for me!

In a certain in light, pancakes can be beautiful. 

[JoPoy88]

47 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said:

But 90% of the kids arent even fans, they are just there watching because their parents are fans.

 

ridiculous assumption backed up by a pulled-from-thin-air statistic. Bravo

[JohnNord]

12 hours ago, Logic said:

I'm not gonna lie...I have never understood the desire for an autograph if you're an adult.

As a kid, sure, but as an adult? Even if it's your biggest hero in the world, what good is their writing their name on one of your items? "This pen ink once belonged to Josh Allen!" 😆

Now a handshake, a conversation, a shared moment, a picture with the person...these things I understand. But an autograph? Why?

 

I don’t have a problem with adults getting autographs though it’s not for me.  But I like Bills merchandise so it might be cool to have something like an autographed football or helmet.  With that being said, I wouldn’t be comfortable chasing down athletes and saying “could you sign this?” 

 

I don’t understand though the need for adults to get autographs at training camps.  The thing is there are hundreds of people asking for autographs after practice from superstars like Josh or Von Miller.  The players can only sign a handful of autographs.  Why waste one of those opportunities on an adult when there so many kids waiting?  It’s common courtesy.  Just like when an adult fights off a group of kids going after a foul ball.  Let one of the kids get that damn ball!

1 hour ago, billsherd said:

I have thought about this many times. I wonder how often this kinda set calls happens.

Same here but I don’t think the average caller who will work for $20 has the improv skills to be as funny (or stupid) as this caller was, without being completely obvious
 

What I can see happening is a call screener putting through a listener that has a ridiculous take just so Schopp can talk down to him.  

Edited July 29, 2022 by JohnNord

[machine gun kelly]

19 hours ago, Gobills14094 said:

I heard that Bull Dog went off on a fan that was complaining to him about not getting an autograph during training camp. Does anyone have a clip of this conversation that they can share perchance?

Brother, I’m sure someone else may have mentioned, but just download the Audacy app if you have not done it, go to the search button and put in the name of the show.  The three dots on the right when you have the right day has episode details.  You can figure out there what episode it’s sitting as they have the times in there.

 

I noticed the change in these functions five or six days ago, and is quite nice.  I won’t watch that show partially as I’m not a fan of either of them,  and partially as my favorite show on NFLR is MTC as I always learn something.

[Kirby Jackson]

8 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

But 90% of the kids arent even fans, they are just there watching because their parents are fans.

Ive seen grown adults fist fight over matchbox cars in the toy isle. We all have our own obsessions... lol

Matchbox cars aren’t adult men writing their name on a football that you bought in the gift shop. If you’re an adult and want an autograph, buy it. The players have a day where they sign hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of items. These go to various charities, auctions, etc… That’s where an adult can get that signed football that they otherwise would have trampled a 7 year-old for. There should NEVER be a situation where an adult feels entitled to a signature from a player. Standing in line screaming “Josh, Josh, Josh” as a full grown man is embarrassing.
 

As many of you know, I worked in pro sports for a long time. Players HATE you more than I do. When we had events with the players and fans we would be assigned to a player. Basically we had to prevent overbearing adults from trying to get autographs/pictures so that the kids could. We were like caddies on the PGA tour telling everyone to put their phones down. The players don’t want to look like jerks but I PROMISE that I’ve never met one that wanted to sign for a healthy adult.

 

If you see Josh and Brittany at dinner don’t interrupt. Send them a drink or dessert. Josh has done enough for you. Feel free to thank him instead of asking for more.

Edited July 29, 2022 by Kirby Jackson

[muppy]

When #12 was QB you could ship including return postage, items of memorabilia for he to sign to JK Enterprises. It would then be returned to you. I have a NFL football  with his autograph with silver sharpie on my bookshelf. That was really nice of he to do.

 

I think players are clearly saavy enough to recognize some people will be out to cash in and not for  creating iconic memories. The types who want to scam will make THEIR kids get autographs and then sell em on ebay. SMH

 

Im cynical and I dont blame players for being either. Theyre not stupid. 

[corta765]

11 minutes ago, muppy said:

When #12 was QB you could ship including return postage, items of memorabilia for he to sign to JK Enterprises. It would then be returned to you. I have a NFL football  with his autograph with silver sharpie on my bookshelf. That was really nice of he to do.

 

I think players are clearly saavy enough to recognize some people will be out to cash in and not for  creating iconic memories. The types who want to scam will make THEIR kids get autographs and then sell em on ebay. SMH

 

Im cynical and I dont blame players for being either. Theyre not stupid. 

 

When Hasek was the goalie for the Sabres he was my favorite player as a kid. I sent him my playing card that was him and I got back that autographed as well as a picture of him autographed. Super nice and made my world as a kid. I still have the autographed card and it was in the blue and good which wasn't as common considering they switched colors to black and red for most of his time in Buffalo.

[BillMafia716ix]

I’m not begging another grown man for a autograph. All they do is scribble lol

[Captain Caveman]

18 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

Bulldog sounds like he's talking with marbles in his mouth and often runs out of breath halfway through his sentence. Impossible to listen to.

Sorry you didn't get your autograph

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, corta765 said:

 

When Hasek was the goalie for the Sabres he was my favorite player as a kid. I sent him my playing card that was him and I got back that autographed as well as a picture of him autographed. Super nice and made my world as a kid. I still have the autographed card and it was in the blue and good which wasn't as common considering they switched colors to black and red for most of his time in Buffalo.

 

I used to do this with baseball cards as a kid. One time I got a rookie card for a guy I'd never heard of but I liked his name or something so I sent the card with a self-addressed stamped envelope and a little letter about how I was nine and in little league and wanted to be a pro pitcher like him. Turned out he was back in the minors but the MLB team forwarded the whole thing to him, he signed it with a gold sharpie and wrote me a letter back. Made my year! 

[Captain Caveman]

After listening I don't even think they were that hard on the guy.

The one thing I think they could have raised / explained while the guy was on the phone (which has been discussed in this thread) is that the players literally don't have time to sign for everyone, even for all the kids.  When you put it in that context, it becomes a lot more obvious that of course they should prioritize signing for the kids.

[badassgixxer05]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Matchbox cars aren’t adult men writing their name on a football that you bought in the gift shop. If you’re an adult and want an autograph, buy it. The players have a day where they sign hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of items. These go to various charities, auctions, etc… That’s where an adult can get that signed football that they otherwise would have trampled a 7 year-old for. There should NEVER be a situation where an adult feels entitled to a signature from a player. Standing in line screaming “Josh, Josh, Josh” as a full grown man is embarrassing.
 

As many of you know, I worked in pro sports for a long time. Players HATE you more than I do. When we had events with the players and fans we would be assigned to a player. Basically we had to prevent overbearing adults from trying to get autographs/pictures so that the kids could. We were like caddies on the PGA tour telling everyone to put their phones down. The players don’t want to look like jerks but I PROMISE that I’ve never met one that wanted to sign for a healthy adult.

 

If you see Josh and Brittany at dinner don’t interrupt. Send them a drink or dessert. Josh has done enough for you. Feel free to thank him instead of asking for more.

So its embarrassing to get a free autograph as an adult but its not embarrassing to pay for one? I'm not getting that logic at all. Is it embarrassing for a whole group of grown men to sign in into an internet forum and talk about other grown men playing a game all day? How do you know who is healthy and who is not? Maybe that guy is going through some ***** and has serious mental issues and getting that autograph makes him happy for a day atleast, so he can keep going and feel like things are getting better. Also Matchbox cars are in the kids isle at any store you go to but its not embarrassing for grown ass men to use violence to make sure they get the latest release for an item that is made for kids? FYI some players hate signing for kids too. I remember standing next to the fence at fredonia holding my football out and John Fina snubbing everyone. Only the rookies took the time to sign for us. I still have that Antoine smith ball somewhere. haha.

[BillsFanNC]

On 7/28/2022 at 11:36 AM, Bray Wyatt said:

This reminds me for some reason of the impractical jokers skit where Noah Syndegaard was signing baseballs and throwing them to the fans in the stands and Joe kept catching them and keeping them 

 

 

 

[KDIGGZ]

If you are a dude that wants to meet another dude, there's an app for that 

[muppy]

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

 

 

 

Padres hat? SMH Booooooooooooooooooo the Padres dont want you repping them you are an utter disgrace. smh

Edited July 29, 2022 by muppy

[Gobills14094]

8 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Brother, I’m sure someone else may have mentioned, but just download the Audacy app if you have not done it, go to the search button and put in the name of the show.  The three dots on the right when you have the right day has episode details.  You can figure out there what episode it’s sitting as they have the times in there.

 

I noticed the change in these functions five or six days ago, and is quite nice.  I won’t watch that show partially as I’m not a fan of either of them,  and partially as my favorite show on NFLR is MTC as I always learn something.

 

True, I do know that now, but if I hadn't started this thread I wouldn't have a 6 page post on the stadium wall now would I?

[Scott7975]

Dude probably just looking to get something signed he thinks he can make bank on down the road.  Pathetic.

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

 

 

 

 

And the original bit on IJ.  The dude in the Padres hat does indeed look a lot like Joe.

 

 

 

[MarkyMannn]

2 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

And the original bit on IJ.  The dude in the Padres hat does indeed look a lot like Joe.

 

 

 

I watched this yesterday. OMG awful for Joe, especially the mother after him LOL

[Aussie Joe]

 Bulldog trying to explain to the caller that there are no hidden meanings in what he is saying….       ” There are no mathematical symbols.. it’s one plus one”…

 

He is no rocket scientist is he?

Edited July 29, 2022 by Aussie Joe

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

On 7/28/2022 at 9:09 AM, Ned Flanders said:

Not unlike these d-bags who grab a foul ball from a kid.  I'm in my 60s, been to hundreds of minor and major league games, and never caught a foul ball.  I'd love to catch one, and if I do, I'm giving it to the closest kid.

I am in total agreement on the foul ball thing but had a situation once where I made an exception. I was at a Tokyo (Yomiuri) Giants game in the Tokyo Dome, sitting along the left field line. Early in the game a ball is hit foul in our direction and hits and rolls right to my feet and stops. I pick it up and then give it to the nearest kid who was running down towards the foul ball. It's a nice moment as I had never gotten a foul ball and the kid was very excited (and gracious and polite, of course, being Japanese). 

Around the 8th inning we decide to leave and ascend the stairway up the aisle to the concession area/hallway that circles the stadium between the lower and upper deck. As we are near the home plate area a loud bang! happens and a foul ball that had rocketed backward, down the tunnel, off the wall, rolls to my feet and stops. I picked it up and despite some kids running down the aisle, decided the baseball gods REALLY wanted me to have a game ball that day, so I kept it and have it to this day (this was 20 years ago).   

[BillsFanForever19]

I'm an adult who collects autographs. If you don't understand the hobby, that's fine. There's a lot of hobbies I don't understand too. But to each their own.

 

That said, as an adult collector, you need to know what your place is. And that is paying for scheduled meet and greet appearances for a set fee or ordering from places like TSE Buffalo for mail in signings. Training Camp autographs are for the kids. Everyone should know that.

 

And even if you're someone who for whatever reason didn't know that, common decency would tell you as a grown adult you shouldn't be getting in the way of Children. And also the players make it very obvious with their actions at these functions what it's all about. 

 

This guy is embarrassing.

Edited July 29, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[Kirby Jackson]

7 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

So its embarrassing to get a free autograph as an adult but its not embarrassing to pay for one? I'm not getting that logic at all. Is it embarrassing for a whole group of grown men to sign in into an internet forum and talk about other grown men playing a game all day? How do you know who is healthy and who is not? Maybe that guy is going through some ***** and has serious mental issues and getting that autograph makes him happy for a day atleast, so he can keep going and feel like things are getting better. Also Matchbox cars are in the kids isle at any store you go to but its not embarrassing for grown ass men to use violence to make sure they get the latest release for an item that is made for kids? FYI some players hate signing for kids too. I remember standing next to the fence at fredonia holding my football out and John Fina snubbing everyone. Only the rookies took the time to sign for us. I still have that Antoine smith ball somewhere. haha.

Standing in line to get an autograph as an adult is embarrassing. I promise you are being judged by those around you and especially by the player. It’s sad. 
 

Grown men fighting over matchbox cars is embarrassing as well. It’s just less embarrassing than asking a 25 year-old man to write his name for you on your shirt. That’s way worse but neither is good.

 

Most players don’t like signing at all but it’s because of the adults. There is rarely a situation where it is ONLY children. It may be primarily children looking for a signature but there are almost always a few weirdo adults lurking. They generally are okay with kids. Signing isn’t fun for them though because they will never get to every kid. They’re almost certainly going to leave one disappointed and it’s not because they want to. They have meetings, etc… They REALLY don’t care if some weirdo like that guy that called WGR leaves empty handed.

 

In terms of an online forum, and don’t assume this place is just men, it’s not that weird. We watch games. We watch analysis. We listen to sports talk radio. We discuss the team at the bar. This is just another avenue to do it. People talking football is nowhere near as weird as grown men asking other grown men to write their names on their shirts.