Shady puts Bienemy on blast as to why he never gets hired as a Head Coach

[Big Turk]

Said it has to do with the type of coach he is and intimated he talks down to people and doesn't treat them respectfully.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lesean-mccoy-claims-knows-why-175714857.html

[Jay_Fixit]

Seems like people have been talking about Bienemy for 10 years about being a head coach yet he’s never hired.

 

Gotta be more than just his BO or thirst for Epsom Salt baths on a Friday night.

[Gugny]

Not a great look for Shady.  Not doubting that he's telling the truth, though.

[Rico]

Midget scrub player in the NFL, scrub assistant coach.

[Watkins101]

11 minutes ago, Rico said:

Midget scrub player in the NFL, scrub assistant coach.

Likely isn’t a scrub assistant coach if he keeps getting interviewed for head coaching jobs, just not good enough to be a head coach if he keeps getting rejected.

[BillsShredder83]

25 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Not a great look for Shady.  Not doubting that he's telling the truth, though.

I like retired shady. He's been really candid about things fans don't typically get to hear

[Mr. WEO]

"he talks to them a certain way and some players would take it. I wouldn’t take it. “

 

wow---Bombshell!!!  lol.  That's it?  This is all he's got?

 

Such BS from a guy the Chiefs dumped to the curb in the playoffs.  He always about himself.

 

Who cares what this clown has to say at this point?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

54 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Not a great look for Shady.  Not doubting that he's telling the truth, though.

 

Why not?

 

I mean, the truth isn't always pleasant, and he's in a place to know the truth.

 

 

[Doc]

38 minutes ago, Watkins101 said:

Likely isn’t a scrub assistant coach if he keeps getting interviewed for head coaching jobs, just not good enough to be a head coach if he keeps getting rejected.

Yeah, not necessarily a scrub. Reid being the real OC hurts him but others have been in similar situations and gotten head coaching jobs.  So there must be other things (like this) if he’s not.  

[Gugny]

8 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Why not?

 

I mean, the truth isn't always pleasant, and he's in a place to know the truth.

 

 

 

I think, due to its recency, that it could come across as sour grapes.  It's not like Bienemy benched Shady in his prime.

 

EDIT:  I will add that I was/am a Shady fan.  

Edited May 26, 2022 by Gugny

[Warcodered]

25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

"he talks to them a certain way and some players would take it. I wouldn’t take it. “

 

wow---Bombshell!!!  lol.  That's it?  This is all he's got?

 

Such BS from a guy the Chiefs dumped to the curb in the playoffs.  He always about himself.

 

Who cares what this clown has to say at this point?

Only to get picked up by the team that'd beat them in the following Super Bowl?

[MJS]

27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

"he talks to them a certain way and some players would take it. I wouldn’t take it. “

 

wow---Bombshell!!!  lol.  That's it?  This is all he's got?

 

Such BS from a guy the Chiefs dumped to the curb in the playoffs.  He always about himself.

 

Who cares what this clown has to say at this point?

Why are you so fired up? Do you really like Bienemy for some reason?

[Don Otreply]

Likely true, the guy has been passed over For what seems to be forever, he may know football, but he likely sucks at people management, what Shady describes is probably just part of his inability to conduct himself in a acceptable manor, some people just don’t have certain capacities, we have all had experiences with folk like this, kinda not news as it were…,

[zow2]

Eh, i respect Shady for popping off.  It probably isn't the politically correct thing to divulge but whatever.  I'm sure I'm not the only person that has heard about Bieniemy's abrasive personality for a few years.

[Buftex]

21 minutes ago, MJS said:

Why are you so fired up? Do you really like Bienemy for some reason?

I have no opinion on this specific story...but I don't think Shady is the greatest guy. 

[wppete]

They have been saying this about Bienamy for a long time. They say he is not a good person, just look at his arrest history, pretty disgusting. McCoy seems legit to me. 

[Nextmanup]

Gregg Williams is quite clearly a nasty, condescending, total douchebag of a person...and it hasn't stopped him from getting tons of coaching jobs in the NFL, including head coach!  

 

 

[Warcodered]

5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Gregg Williams is quite clearly a nasty, condescending, total douchebag of a person...and it hasn't stopped him from getting tons of coaching jobs in the NFL, including head coach!  

 

 

I'm sure he's still beating back Head Coaching offers.

[Mr. WEO]

58 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Only to get picked up by the team that'd beat them in the following Super Bowl?

 

 

He's been a hood ornament SB winners for a couple of years. So what?  Reid humiliated him by not even dressing him for the final playoff game.  Arians wouldn't put him in the playoffs the next season either.

 

He's delusional regarding his value.

 

 

57 minutes ago, MJS said:

Why are you so fired up? Do you really like Bienemy for some reason?

 

I have no info on him.  I assumed the obvious:  he doesn't get hired because every GM knows he doesn't run that Offense.  So why would they want him as HC?  And why would McCoy bring it up 2 years later? 

 

 

39 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Eh, i respect Shady for popping off.  It probably isn't the politically correct thing to divulge but whatever.  I'm sure I'm not the only person that has heard about Bieniemy's abrasive personality for a few years.

 

 

What did he divulge--that's his quote: "he talks to them in a certain way"...no elaboration nor has he since this comment blew up on twitter.

 

He's bitter, no other explanation makes sense for this outburst.

[Punching Bag]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Said it has to do with the type of coach he is and intimated he talks down to people and doesn't treat them respectfully.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lesean-mccoy-claims-knows-why-175714857.html

 

McCoy has been a straight shooter except when things come to him.

He will say things others paper over.

[Chicken Boo]

I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.  Shady was on his way out of the league during his time in KC and was probably lobbying for more playing time.

 

If I hear similar accounts from more KC players, then I'll take it more seriously.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Chicken Boo

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

Not a great look for Shady.  Not doubting that he's telling the truth, though.

I think it is ok.  I have heard him say before that sometimes there are reasons beyond race that some black coaches don't get hired.  If true, this definitely supports that statement.  

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Yeah, not necessarily a scrub. Reid being the real OC hurts him but others have been in similar situations and gotten head coaching jobs.  So there must be other things (like this) if he’s not.  

 

Growing number of people have never called plays OR been an OC even and gotten hired as head coach.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Buftex said:

I have no opinion on this specific story...but I don't think Shady is the greatest guy. 

 

Neither is Bienemy.

[MJS]

38 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

I have no info on him.  I assumed the obvious:  he doesn't get hired because every GM knows he doesn't run that Offense.  So why would they want him as HC?  And why would McCoy bring it up 2 years later? 

Usually players say things because they are asked about it or it relates to the topic they are talking about.

 

As for Bienemy, I have also heard he interviews very poorly, and I read an article awhile ago that painted him in a pretty poor light as far as his impact on the team and friction he has caused. I also find it strange that Reid has been so vocal about him leaving for a HC gig, like he almost wants to be rid of him or something. But that could all be hearsay.

 

I don't know too much about it. I have no reason to believe that McCoy isn't speaking truthfully, though.

[Mr. WEO]

30 minutes ago, MJS said:

Usually players say things because they are asked about it or it relates to the topic they are talking about.

 

As for Bienemy, I have also heard he interviews very poorly, and I read an article awhile ago that painted him in a pretty poor light as far as his impact on the team and friction he has caused. I also find it strange that Reid has been so vocal about him leaving for a HC gig, like he almost wants to be rid of him or something. But that could all be hearsay.

 

I don't know too much about it. I have no reason to believe that McCoy isn't speaking truthfully, though.

 

McCoy brought it up.

 

Also, what is he speaking truthfully about here?  That Bieniemy is a a-hole (sure could be true)...or that he KNOWS that's why he isn't getting a HC job?

 

If it's the latter, who told him this?  

[artmalibu]

The is not the first tome I have read negative things about Bieniemy....

[BADOLBILZ]

 

I was wrong,  I really thought Shady was going to make it in radio.........

[Buffalo03]

Bienemy doesn't have the best record. He has a rap sheet and a troubled past. That's why he hasn't gotten a job

[BillsShredder83]

4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I think it is ok.  I have heard him say before that sometimes there are reasons beyond race that some black coaches don't get hired.  If true, this definitely supports that statement.  

^^^ exactly the reason anyone is getting oddly fired up over a mild comment

[RyanC883]

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Growing number of people have never called plays OR been an OC even and gotten hired as head coach.

 

who?   

 

seems risky to do.  

[BruceVilanch]

The only thing I will say about Bienemy is during his playing days Chris Berman gave him a great nickname, Eric Sleeping with the Bienemy.

[Billl]

Crazy odds that the guy he’s talking ish about just happens to be the same guy who benched him for being washed up and playing like he’s paid by the fumble.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Billl

[babulator]

I'm a Shady fan so I'm a little biased, but I like his post career commentary. I think he's a pretty straight shooter, at least from his perspective. I find this pretty believable. Not everyone makes a great head coach for sure.

[Richard Noggin]

The dude is known as SHADY for a reason, people.

 

He throws shade always. He also throws praise. No matter what, though, from what I've witnessed, the dude really likes to hold court. Command the conch shell, if you will. Bogart the mic. Not a ton of NFL players or personnel are as free with their unflattering opinions in mixed company. I've been in close proximity with McCoy and his teammates on more than one occasion where Shady was entertaining the room with animated digs at other guys around the league. And he's funny while he does it. Guys respond to it. But he's also arrogant about it*.

 

*More so when he first arrived in Buffalo. 

 

Richie Incognito, Doug Whaley, and Russ Brandon were the only other Bills who were similarly "loose" with the hot takes outside school (read: in front of my dumb arse while out to dinner at team functions or just generally). I once watched Kerry Collins give a diplomatic but ultimately critical take on Vince Young while they were teammates in Tennessee. Jason Garrett had asked him point blank, across the dinner table (that also included Jay Cutler, a high profile player I'm forgetting, and the heads of like ESPN and whatever recording label owned George Strait in 2009), what the deal was with Young. Collins eventually called him "an every now and then guy. Every now and then in practice he does something that makes you go 'wow'." The insinuation very clearly being that most of the time...not so much. 

 

Shady isn't similarly careful. No positivity sandwich with his spilled tea.

 

[Billy Claude]

11 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Growing number of people have never called plays OR been an OC even and gotten hired as head coach.

 

7 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

who?   

 

seems risky to do.  

 

The only recent hires I can think of who were never OC or DC are three who just got fired, Joe Judge, David Culley, and Brian Flores.

 

Judge was special teams coordinator for the Pats, Culley was assistant head coach for the Ravens, and Flores called defensive plays for the Pats but never had the DC title.

 

It is more accurate to say there has been a lot of recent hires with very limited OC or DC experience. For example, Zac Taylor was only interim OC for 5 games for the Dolphins before he was hired as head coach for the Bengals although he was OC for a year at the University of Cincinnati. There's a lot of recent hires who only had one year experience as coordinator.

 

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Billy Claude

[machine gun kelly]

10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I was wrong,  I really thought Shady was going to make it in radio.........

 

You're probably referring to his short stint on NFLR one morning a week.  I thought his candid opinions were refreshing, but not sure what to make of his take on the Coach.  Shady was washed up by the time he made it to Chiefs.  Bienemy could’ve been riding him as he wasn’t putting in the effort, or could be a jerk.

 

Its a bad call to air dirty laundry in the media.  Reid and Bienemy won’t reply at all so you get a guy about to be forcibly retired by the NFL to trash him.  
 

I don’t have an opinion as there is. I way to know.

[BillsFanSD]

Add me to the list of people who aren't at all surprised by this.  People who are in a much better position than me to know have been saying for years that there are good reasons why Bienemy hasn't gotten a HC gig, and it's not just because he doesn't call plays or is the "wrong" race.  In particular, I don't think it would be wise to make Bienemy the go-to example of "minority coaches not getting a fair shake."  That narrative may have some validity for other ACs, but probably not this one.

[StHustle]

Eric’s The Enemy

[colin]

im not interested (much) in the personal lives or takes of nfl people, but i am interested in how they work together and create a dynamic, which ultimately leads to wins and losses IMO.  this kind of gossip to me is actually sports info, and richard noggins take (no idea what his relationship w these people is, but i buy it and i like it!) gives me some color.

 

i will say, i listened to that podcast blurb at that link, and people raising their voices, talking over each other, and most of all more than one person speaking at once just ruins a broadcast.  i think this is what keeps jocks and athletes from having bigger podcast empires, they sort of need to be cool or dominant, and just don't focus on putting out a product vs having what at the time to them is an exciting convo.