BillsShredder83 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: We don’t know when Tre will be back and if he will be 100% when he does. If they can do a reasonable deal for Bradberry with an out after year 1, no reason not to. Especially if it 🐓 blocks KC or anyone else in the AFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Now we see how worried they are about Tre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why would he end up in Buffalo? He'd be our #3 CB long term. Yeah... he could compete with Elam... but every single one of McDermott's 1st round draft picks has been a starter pretty much from the get go. Copyright infringement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why would he end up in Buffalo? He'd be our #3 CB long term. Yeah... he could compete with Elam... but every single one of McDermott's 1st round draft picks has been a starter pretty much from the get go. Most FA money has been spent this year. If he really wants to maximize his money, take a bit of a hit on a one year deal now, go win a SB, show you can be a good teammate on a team where you're somewhere around #2 or #3 cb. Then next year you go after FA hard before every team already blew their FA$ load. Even if its not here, I think it'd be foolish to sign more than 1yr deal anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why would he end up in Buffalo? He'd be our #3 CB long term. Yeah... he could compete with Elam... but every single one of McDermott's 1st round draft picks has been a starter pretty much from the get go. Because you can never have enough CB's and he makes our defense deeper. And, Tre is not going to be ready most likely. PUP candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 How much money is he still making from the Giants even after being released? If the Giants released him, but are still on the hook for a bunch of money paying a big chunk of his salary this year and we could get him relatively cheap, then let's go for it. I just don't know why he would do that when he could probably get better money and a potential long term contract elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Georgie said: I don't see the point in that; moving Edmunds,A Pro Bowler,creates a big hole at MLB. To add a CB that isn't even guaranteed to start? ........................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why would he end up in Buffalo? He'd be our #3 CB long term. Yeah... he could compete with Elam... but every single one of McDermott's 1st round draft picks has been a starter pretty much from the get go. If they sign him, it would probably be a 1-year deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 You can never have enough quality CB's in todays NFL. I agree if Bradberry wants to play for a ring it would be a major coup if we can squeeze him in for a 1 year deal... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 It's hard to see his fit here. He'll have options with teams that need a starting CB for the entire season and have more cap space. I would be looking to sign a cheap vet like Joe Haden or Richard Sherman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think McDermott drafts 1st rounders with the intention of starting. Tre, Rosseau, Edmunds and Oliver all started day 1. I think Tre is on track to be back by the FO actions. I think Dane Jackson is good depth. Cam Lewis is probably what you would expect a #4 corner to be. Allen did not though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's hard to see his fit here. He'll have options with teams that need a starting CB for the entire season and have more cap space. I would be looking to sign a cheap vet like Joe Haden or Richard Sherman. You agree he may want to play one year in the league's #1 defense as well as a great shot at a ring while raising his value at the same time? All things many players consider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 53 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why would he end up in Buffalo? He'd be our #3 CB long term. Yeah... he could compete with Elam... but every single one of McDermott's 1st round draft picks has been a starter pretty much from the get go. Elam is a rookie and no idea what he's going to look like this year or in the long term. White isn't likely going to be ready at the start of the season and even when he plays may not be the same player right away (or ever which is something a lot of fans seem to be discounting here). But I would agree that there is no point of trying to pursue him to a long term contact if anything because we won't have the money. We might not even be able to sign him to a one year deal depending on what he's looking for or wants out of a new team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Is the goal to be all in for a SB this year? If the answer is yes you absolutely sign him. (And yes the space can be made easily). also you should not be going into a SB run season with your CBS a rookie and a unknown health wise on your CB1 and CB2. something like a 3 or 4 year deal that is really a 1 or 2 year deal. Keeps this years cap low. Adds voided years. Edited May 9, 2022 by MAJBobby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 If they pursue him it might tell us how confident ( or not) they are about Tre starting the season… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Allen did not though. Yeah, that was a debacle. He was the backup for what, 30 minutes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, StHustle said: You agree he may want to play one year in the league's #1 defense as well as a great shot at a ring while raising his value at the same time? All things many players consider. It doesn't make sense for us either. We have limited cap space and drafted Elam to be a starter. The only way we would sign Bradberry is for a below market value deal to fill in for White until he's done recovering. I can't imagine a structure that makes sense for us and him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah, that was a debacle. He was the backup for what, 30 minutes? Still started as a BU. Is the point. I really don’t think this team really wants to start its rookies because I look at how the handle all their rookies and most learn for a bit. I do think if White is healthy Bradberry is still a solid option to allow Elam to earn that CB2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Is the goal to be all in for a SB this year? If the answer is yes you absolutely sign him. (And yes the space can be made easily). also you should not be going into a SB run season with your CBS a rookie and a unknown health wise on your CB1 and CB2. That's kind of how I feel, why go into a season with SB expectations and not look to help out one of the positions you are weakest at? 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 So Schoen did have a trade worked out. Hmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Get er done Beane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: That's kind of how I feel, why go into a season with SB expectations and not look to help out one of the positions you are weakest at? I agree. Everyone wants to act like Elam being good from day 1 or they Tre being him old self is a given. What if Elam has an up and down his rookie season or Tre doesn't fully return to form? We are too good to risk that being our downfall and should go hard at any realistic chance we have to add more talent at that particular position. Of course it's all up to Bradberry but I would be disappointed if we felt we were set and didn't even try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Is the goal to be all in for a SB this year? If the answer is yes you absolutely sign him. (And yes the space can be made easily). also you should not be going into a SB run season with your CBS a rookie and a unknown health wise on your CB1 and CB2. something like a 3 or 4 year deal that is really a 1 or 2 year deal. Keeps this years cap low. Adds voided years. Agree with all of this. Our secondary would be incredible with him in the fold. Depth would not be a concern, although you could argue that addressing safety is more pressing. Either way, sign me up for Bradberry if you can get him on a reasonable deal. He's a solid player and fits our scheme perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: If they pursue him it might tell us how confident ( or not) they are about Tre starting the season… They really won't know till the camp starts and they see him perform... I wouldn't call it a confidence thing but more of an insurance thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So Schoen did have a trade worked out. Hmmmmm. If Bradbury wants to play on a one year deal so he can cash in next year when Free Agency opens, signing with Buffalo would be a great opportunity. Gets a chance at a SB, gets to just be one piece in an excellent defense where he won’t have to be the guy in the secondary, and it was McDermotts defense that he started off in Carolina that led to his first big contract. I still think he goes elsewhere for more money, even just on a one year deal. But he could do a lot worse than signing with us this late in the offseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Hopefully he signs here. I'm still not confident in our CB room. Elam has a lot to learn and who knows if Tre will be 100%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Would not be against this signing. Agree w/ those who think having a rookie CB1 for an extended period is asking for trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Would not be against this signing. Agree w/ those who think having a rookie CB1 for an extended period is asking for trouble. Plus injuries happen if he is willing to take 1 yr day Bills should look into it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Hopefully he signs here. I'm still not confident in our CB room. Elam has a lot to learn and who knows if Tre will be 100%. Iirc, Tre was a rookie when he started the first game of the season, so from that aspect we would be repeating a personnel move that has been done before by this coaching staff. Frankly Elam is better than Wallace, and we have more experience surrounding him than when Tre started, will it be of concern? Sure it will, but as a team we have this under control, you can rest easy knowing that Beane is not sitting on his hands, it’s not his style, also remember, it takes two to tango, I for one am confident in this seasons outcome. Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Hopefully he signs here. I'm still not confident in our CB room. Elam has a lot to learn and who knows if Tre will be 100%. Sign one Draft one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 It would be nice to have him, obviously he would be an upgrade to our CB3 and maybe CB2. That said if a trade was worked out but compensation couldn't be agreed on, it doesn't sound like he's giving any discounts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: It doesn't make sense for us either. We have limited cap space and drafted Elam to be a starter. The only way we would sign Bradberry is for a below market value deal to fill in for White until he's done recovering. I can't imagine a structure that makes sense for us and him. Maybe so but it's a Baptism by Fire situation. If he falters or gets injured it can get ugly real quick. Having Bradberry or Rhodes/Haden for that matter provides a security blanket and allows Elam to shine if ready or learn behind an experienced vet in the event he's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-billsfan! Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Would not be against this signing. Agree w/ those who think having a rookie CB1 for an extended period is asking for trouble. Didn’t Tre start his first year? If the staff feel confident with a rookie I definitely do. We are lucky to have competent management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: It doesn't make sense for us either. We have limited cap space and drafted Elam to be a starter. The only way we would sign Bradberry is for a below market value deal to fill in for White until he's done recovering. I can't imagine a structure that makes sense for us and him. Easing Tre back from injury and not handing a starting job to Elam is very McBeane-like. The Rams had plenty of pass rush last year and added a cherry on top with Von Miller. A one-year "play for a ring" deal for say $5 million for Bradberry could be the juice that elevates this defense to true #1 status. . Edited May 10, 2022 by Shake_My_Head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Still started as a BU. Is the point. I really don’t think this team really wants to start its rookies because I look at how the handle all their rookies and most learn for a bit. I do think if White is healthy Bradberry is still a solid option to allow Elam to earn that CB2 White and Edmunds started from day 1 of their first training camps. And of course Bass started as well. Ford, Zay Jones, Oliver, and Rousseau all became starters their rookie year or were at least in rotations. I would be in favor of a veteran CB so they have the option of letting Elam learn a bit. That said I'd rather they rush Elam into a starting role than rush White back from injury. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just Extend edmunds and we can sign him no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NC-billsfan! said: Didn’t Tre start his first year? If the staff feel confident with a rookie I definitely do. We are lucky to have competent management. He did, but I’m not sure whether he stepped in and was immediately a top end CB1. Edit: also Tre =|= Elam Edited May 10, 2022 by JohnBonhamRocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Iirc, Tre was a rookie when he started the first game of the season, so from that aspect we would be repeating a personnel move that has been done before by this coaching staff. Frankly Elam is better than Wallace, and we have more experience surrounding him than when Tre started, will it be of concern? Sure it will, but as a team we have this under control, you can rest easy knowing that Beane is not sitting on his hands, it’s not his style, also remember, it takes two to tango, I for one am confident in this seasons outcome. Go Bills!!! He will also be working with the BEST Safety Tandem in the league in the backfield. I don't think he will miss a beat with that kind of experience 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 get er done Beane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 8 hours ago, HappyDays said: It doesn't make sense for us either. We have limited cap space and drafted Elam to be a starter. The only way we would sign Bradberry is for a below market value deal to fill in for White until he's done recovering. I can't imagine a structure that makes sense for us and him. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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