Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 5 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 was fine up until he said "really just let us down, cause the fans arent out there". pretty tone deaf comment for a guy that spent what, 4 years here? lost focus, lack of attention to detail... wish we replaced him with someone the opposite of that, OH WAIT 2 2 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 McDermott would never say publicly if a certain player screwed up, but if McDermott agrees with Levi's assessment, could that be a contributing factor in the decision not to try and re-sign him? 4 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: was fine up until he said "really just let us down, cause the fans arent out there". pretty tone deaf comment for a guy that spent what, 4 years here? lost focus, lack of attention to detail... wish we replaced him with someone the opposite of that, OH WAIT Get thicker skin, I guess. There was nothing wrong with his comment. Just now, BigAl2526 said: McDermott would never say publicly if a certain player screwed up, but if McDermott agrees with Levi's assessment, could that be a contributing factor in the decision not to try and re-sign him? They've been trying to replace Wallace ever since he got here (without investing a ton in the position). I think the writing was on the wall. They wanted an upgrade regardless of that game. 6 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Get thicker skin, I guess. There was nothing wrong with his comment. They've been trying to replace Wallace ever since he got here (without investing a ton in the position). I think the writing was on the wall. They wanted an upgrade regardless of that game. its just a dumb comment i didnt miss him before that, and i dont now. should be a major upgrade for us 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Yup. The moment is huge and small mental mistakes can be the difference. At least he manned up and took responsibility. Not football related but heck, the 43 car was less than half a lap away from winning Talladega a week ago too. He could see the finish line and made a mistake that cost him the race. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: was fine up until he said "really just let us down, cause the fans arent out there". pretty tone deaf comment for a guy that spent what, 4 years here? I think its a fair point to say that is a pretty tone deaf comment by him. It's just kinda frustrating considering how secretive the team was after that loss. No reasons were ever presented and us as fans really wanted to know what the F that was that we just witnessed in front of a national stage. It felt like we were being dismissed a bit and this comment furthers that mind set. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 What I gathered from this is that 63 yard catch and run scared Buffalo to death. Their answer was to back way up Also interesting to hear the comment on Poyer and Milano. What was the sight adjustment to the formation and time versus the play called. And why did it happen twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Big of him to take blame, but the coaches deserve plenty of it too 13 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Sorry but not buying that. All the evidence fails squarely on the coaching staff. Failure to provide clear instructions on the kickoff. Called a timeout before the first play only to give up an easy 15 yard pick up. Called time out AGAIN and still stayed in the same defense to easily give up another big play allowing KC to kick a FG. 7 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Hey, took some guts to come out and say what he said, putting a lot of the blame onto himself. Easily could have stayed more tight lipped about it like everyone else. He surely wasn't the best CB we ever had, but gave it his all and despite several tries nobody beat him out for the job in four seasons. Edited May 4, 2022 by Bleedbuffaloblue Missing letter 14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: McDermott would never say publicly if a certain player screwed up, but if McDermott agrees with Levi's assessment, could that be a contributing factor in the decision not to try and re-sign him? Yup...also why Elam’s notebook left an impression as well...shows attention to detail...👍 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I agree 100% That is why I am sooooo glad he owns at least one pair of black and gold underwear. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: was fine up until he said "really just let us down, cause the fans arent out there". pretty tone deaf comment for a guy that spent what, 4 years here? lost focus, lack of attention to detail... wish we replaced him with someone the opposite of that, OH WAIT This podcast was on yesterday and John Fina (ex bill) was on it as well. Fans gushing their support for Levi......I dont want to speak for him but the fan support was definately there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: Sorry but not buying that. All the evidence fails squarely on the coaching staff. Failure to provide clear instructions on the kickoff. Called a timeout before the first play only to give up an easy 15 yard pick up. Called time out AGAIN and still stayed in the same defense to easily give up another big play allowing KC to kick a FG. The kickoff may be on coaches. But what Levi is saying is 100% fact. He was misaligned based off of where the safety was playing. IF he looks back and adjusts like he said he shouldve that final pass to Kelce does not happen. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Tons for respect for Levi, he has zero reason to revisit or be transparent with what happened but he took responsibility and explained why he was taking that responsibility. That’s big time, and make no mistake about it; even though he took sole responsibility for what happened it wasn’t solely, or even mostly, his fault. 6 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: Sorry but not buying that. All the evidence fails squarely on the coaching staff. Failure to provide clear instructions on the kickoff. Called a timeout before the first play only to give up an easy 15 yard pick up. Called time out AGAIN and still stayed in the same defense to easily give up another big play allowing KC to kick a FG. Do you think it might be even remotely possible that there was more blame to go around then just the coaches.......asking for a friend 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I give him a lot of credit for those comments taking that type of responsibility. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I have no issue with Wallace's comments. He was open about what happened and gave his honest thoughts on it and specifically on what he personally could have done better. I don't think that his comment about letting themselves down vs. letting the fans down was problematic, when taken in context. He sounds like a good guy and I thought he was a solid player for the Bills. Despite all the negativity on this site against him, he beat out the competition for his spot year after year and played like a decent/average NFL starter. Not bad for a UDFA. Good luck to him (personally) in Pittsburgh. I don't wish any luck to the Steelers team, however. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said: I think its a fair point to say that is a pretty tone deaf comment by him. It's just kinda frustrating considering how secretive the team was after that loss. No reasons were ever presented and us as fans really wanted to know what the F that was that we just witnessed in front of a national stage. It felt like we were being dismissed a bit and this comment furthers that mind set. You can’t take it personally. NFL careers are too short for the players to care about anything beyond themselves and their teammates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I’ve been saying, since the Steelers game, that Levi was the weak link but got a lot of pushback from other posters. I wanted the Bills to replace him with Dane afterwards. The Steelers, Chiefs and Titans games really stood out to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Enough blame to go around, but 2 things caught my attention. 1. The attitude that the game was over. Very surprising to hear from a McDermott led team. 2. Lack of situational awareness. Mentioned how they had to worry about the sidelines. KC had all their timeouts, or at least the 2 they used. Sidelines meant absolutely nothing. Glad we upgraded the position with speed. Edited May 4, 2022 by Allen2Moulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Bleedbuffaloblue said: Hey, took some guts to come out and say what he said, putting a lot of the blame onto himself. Easily could have stayed more tight lipped about it like everyone else. He surely wasn't the best CB we ever had, but gave it his all and despite several tries nobody beat him out for the job in four seasons. It was smart on his part to wait until he signed his next big contract to admit his mistake.....he has nothing to lose at this point. I have nothing against Wallace, but it’s clear Elam should be an upgrade to Wallace. Edited May 4, 2022 by Special K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I am sure there is enough blame to go around on those 13 seconds. The classy thing to do is focus on what you could have done better and not throw anyone else under the bus. Levi handled the question great. No matter if Levi played inside leverage or outside, if he gets beat by Tyreek, theres still 20 yards until the next closest defender. Not sure it would have mattered that much. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I've got about thirteen seconds left of this thread. C ya Levi. . . . good riddance. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I can’t imagine a more embarrassing answer to that question, regardless of honesty or accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, dbfla10 said: The kickoff may be on coaches. But what Levi is saying is 100% fact. He was misaligned based off of where the safety was playing. IF he looks back and adjusts like he said he shouldve that final pass to Kelce does not happen. I’ve been saying this since it happened various places on the internet and I’ve been taking a lot of flak haha. I do not feel any better knowing i may have been right though 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Wallace was a decent DB for us, but we definitely needed an upgrade there. Personally I think he’s a bust signing……unless you have 2 safeties like Buffalo has to cover up for the lack of speed he has, he’s gonna get roasted out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’ve been saying this since it happened various places on the internet and I’ve been taking a lot of flak haha. I do not feel any better knowing i may have been right though 😂 Im with ya and if you understand defense you can clearly tell that the Bills were aligned wrong and didn't drop into the proper zones... Just shows that its a team that can easily correct their mistakes. Theyll learn from their mistakes and hopefully take the next step. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 What I learned from this...if any of it is true...is that the blame lies squarely on the coaching staff. They coached scared! Trust me, the players aren't calling the defense. The coaches are. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What I learned from this...if any of it is true...is that the blame lies squarely on the coaching staff. They coached scared! Trust me, the players aren't calling the defense. The coaches are. I’m still surprised by this ‘coaching scared’ critique…especially when tyreek hill took a simple drag route like 70 yards to the house several minutes earlier in the game 😂 how aggressive can you really be with Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson starting at cb. Looked like back to back blown assignments to me the last two plays of the game. We wanted mahomes running around holding the ball a long time but someone was late picking up the RB on that first play Edited May 4, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’m still surprised by this ‘coaching scared’ critique…especially when tyreek hill took a simple drag route like 70 yards to the house several minutes earlier in the game 😂 how aggressive can you really be with Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson starting at cb It's been said over and over and over again. You simply hold the WRs at the line of scrimmage, take the five yard penalty, and the clock runs out. It's not complicated. In the NBA they do it in the final minute of almost every single game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I'm going to have to agree with him there. Bills can finally have closure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It's been said over and over and over again. You simply hold the WRs at the line of scrimmage, take the five yard penalty, and the clock runs out. It's not complicated. In the NBA they do it in the final minute of almost every single game. It’s also been said over and over again…you cannot do that due to a rule change. You are 100% incorrect. Can’t intentionally hold receivers anymore to manipulate the game clock. I believe it changed in 2017/2018…49ers did it to the saints to close out a half and the nfl was like ‘didn’t like that’ lol also the NBA is a different sport 😂 Edited May 4, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: It's been said over and over and over again. You simply hold the WRs at the line of scrimmage, take the five yard penalty, and the clock runs out. It's not complicated. In the NBA they do it in the final minute of almost every single game. The game cannot end on a defensive penalty. They would not have been able to simply take a penalty and let the clock run out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It’s also been said over and over again…you cannot do that due to a rule change. You are 100% incorrect. What rule prevented them from doing it? Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said: The game cannot end on a defensive penalty. They would not have been able to simply take a penalty and let the clock run out. The game doesn't end. You are trying to burn clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I give him a lot of credit for those comments taking that type of responsibility. Agreed. How can anyone fault him for these comments? They were very thoughtful too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What rule prevented them from doing it? The game doesn't end. You are trying to burn clock. I’ll try to find the article number…I am 100% certain you cannot do that anymore for a few years now. It was the same year the ravens intentionally got a bunch of offensive holds on a punt a few times in a row to run out the game clock belichick did it to the jets I believe also and giggled like a schoolgirl then someone did it to him and he looked so sad haha Edited May 4, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What rule prevented them from doing it? The game doesn't end. You are trying to burn clock. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/16/nfl-closes-deliberate-penalty-loophole-sort-of/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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