NFL Draft Rumors

[FLFan]

26 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Well… you have several competent sources suggesting they are interested….. I’d be somewhat surprised…. I mean the team that’s beat them twice the past two years are a PRIME example of what a bad move(much more often than not)it is to take a RB in the first round. 

So are you suggesting the Chiefs running game is somehow responsible for their wins?  I think that would be news even to the Chiefs.  I also suspect there are more than a few KC fans and and coaches who wish that pick has been spent  on a CB or other defensive playmaker, rather than a RB whose production they could have received from a third round pick, as the Bills have. 

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, Putin said:

I don’t think McD will take a RB at 25 when there’s so many good defensive players are still on the board 

Coach wants to  double  dip at pass rusher again and develop his day 3 corner from directional state. Offense is good, could use an older RB though, these guys are too young. 

 

[mikemac2001]

22 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said:

Seattle is rumored to want a QB at the end of round one.  Trading picks 25 and 57 to the Seahawks for picks 40, 41 and 109 (per the Jimmy Johnson point system) is something I'd like to see Beane pull off. 

 

The Bills could then go RB (Hall or Walker), DB (Cine, Gordon or Cross), WR (Burks, Dotson, Metchie) or BPA with players that would surely help a lot this year and beyond.

 

 

If we did something like this fine 

 

but please trade some of our lower picks and get back into 2nd or 3rd we don’t have to many holes so getting more picks in late Rd’s could be a waste 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

I fully expect Buffalo to try trading up to grab Jameson Williams. He's got the most upside of almost any player in this draft. 

[gonzo1105]

Just now, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I fully expect Buffalo to try trading up to grab Jameson Williams. He's got the most upside of almost any player in this draft. 

There is only a small shot I can see Williams going as high as 4 

[BillsSbSoon]

Im just not there yet with hall. If beane takes him, i trust his judgement.

Jameson williams would put this offense in nuclear mode

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Im just not there yet with hall. If beane takes him, i trust his judgement.

Jameson williams would put this offense in nuclear mode

Jamo won’t be available. In a draft this deep and rich at WR, and the fact that the Bills don’t even need a WR1 or 2… I don’t see that trade up happening. When you are paying your QB and numerous other premium players you aren’t trading future 1sts. Those are gold now when it comes to the Bills contending under the cap

Edited April 26, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[MasterStrategist]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Personally I think Quarterback is the same. It depends which team takes one first

 

If it's Detroit I think it's Willis

If it's Carolina I think it could even be Corral

If it's Atlanta I think it would be Pickett

If it's New Orleans I think it would be Pickett

The one where I genuinely don't know is Pittsburgh... lots of buzz about them and Pickett but it feels like slightly fake buzz to me. I think they'd take Willis. 

Willis to Steelers will happen, if he's on the board.  Steelers might even move up a few spots for him.

 

He's exactly what Tomlin wants, and with Colberts last year as their GM, I think he will look for the next franchise QB to add onto his legacy there.

[BillsSbSoon]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Jamo won’t be available. In a draft this deep and rich at WR, and the fact that the Bills don’t even need a WR1 or 2… I don’t see that trade up happening. When you are paying your QB and numerous other premium players you aren’t trading future 1sts. Those are gold now when it comes to the Bills contending under the cap

I know. It isnt likely. We are def taking a wr at some point imo though.

Stevie johnson doing the 2nd round pick says wr to me there too

[Motor26]

I’m a big Burks fan personally. He has great YAC ability, something none of our receivers have. He’s a beast with the ball in his hands, they have the finesse guy in Diggs, deep threat in Davis, slot in Crowder and McKenzie. 

[SCBills]

12 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I fully expect Buffalo to try trading up to grab Jameson Williams. He's got the most upside of almost any player in this draft. 

Im all in on Jameson Williams.  
 

Willing to go #25 and next years RD1 to move up and get him.  He’s that good.  
 

Diggs, Davis and Williams would be in the running for most elite trio in the NFL.  
 

They would also be positioned very well contractually with Diggs locked down long term, Davis with 2 more years on his rookie deal and then Williams would be locked down long term on a rookie deal.  

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, Shake_My_Head said:

Seattle is rumored to want a QB at the end of round one.  Trading picks 25 and 57 to the Seahawks for picks 40, 41 and 109 (per the Jimmy Johnson point system) is something I'd like to see Beane pull off. 

 

The Bills could then go RB (Hall or Walker), DB (Cine, Gordon or Cross), WR (Burks, Dotson, Metchie) or BPA with players that would surely help a lot this year and beyond.

 

 

Imo this is the route the Bills should go- especially since player value does not change much between picks 20 and 60...

 

They could cover a lot of positions for this year and beyond, doing it this way...👍

Edited April 26, 2022 by JaCrispy

[BillsSbSoon]

16 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Im all in on Jameson Williams.  
 

Willing to go #25 and next years RD1 to move up and get him.  He’s that good.  
 

Diggs, Davis and Williams would be in the running for most elite trio in the NFL.  
 

They would also be positioned very well contractually with Diggs locked down long term, Davis with 2 more years on his rookie deal and then Williams would be locked down long term on a rookie deal.  

All of this. 

Nobody could stay in front of him. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

33 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Im all in on Jameson Williams.  
 

Willing to go #25 and next years RD1 to move up and get him.  He’s that good.  
 

Diggs, Davis and Williams would be in the running for most elite trio in the NFL.  
 

They would also be positioned very well contractually with Diggs locked down long term, Davis with 2 more years on his rookie deal and then Williams would be locked down long term on a rookie deal.  

Thing that scares me about Jami is his ACL. If he goes from a highly agile 4.28 guy to a decently agile 4.40 guy because of his knee, that’s not what you traded up for. 

 

Teams won’t know how his knee is until next year’s training camp, possibly longer since it takes some guys longer to mentally heal from an ACL. 
 

Jamison could slip in the draft. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, Shake_My_Head said:

Seattle is rumored to want a QB at the end of round one.  Trading picks 25 and 57 to the Seahawks for picks 40, 41 and 109 (per the Jimmy Johnson point system) is something I'd like to see Beane pull off. 

 

The Bills could then go RB (Hall or Walker), DB (Cine, Gordon or Cross), WR (Burks, Dotson, Metchie) or BPA with players that would surely help a lot this year and beyond.

 

 

Not arguing your point but I saw a quote from Beane today that he feels the Jimmy Johnson point system is terrible. It appears most GMs think it stinks but they don't allow their own point systems be known

32 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Im all in on Jameson Williams.  
 

Willing to go #25 and next years RD1 to move up and get him.  He’s that good.  
 

Diggs, Davis and Williams would be in the running for most elite trio in the NFL.  
 

They would also be positioned very well contractually with Diggs locked down long term, Davis with 2 more years on his rookie deal and then Williams would be locked down long term on a rookie deal.  

I don't want a WR in the first since we don't need one at this time but if they are sold on his health and he is there I could not pass on him, he is too good 

[Milanos Milano]

25 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

All of this. 

Nobody could stay in front of him. 

Sauce? He didn’t do well against Florida either. Not sure if Elam was on him or not. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by IronMaidenBills

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, mikemac2001 said:

If we did something like this fine 

 

but please trade some of our lower picks and get back into 2nd or 3rd we don’t have to many holes so getting more picks in late Rd’s could be a waste 

I'd rather have fewer picks with higher quality guys. The Bills don't need to draft 10 players who can't contribute much. We are only a piece or 2 away (if that) from hoisting that Lombardi. 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I fully expect Buffalo to try trading up to grab Jameson Williams. He's got the most upside of almost any player in this draft. 

Except he might not play this season. The Bills are 4 WR deep already so there be no rushing him to play and make little sense trading up for him either. 

[SCBills]

18 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Thing that scares me about Jami is his ACL. If he goes from a highly agile 4.28 guy to a decently agile 4.40 guy because of his knee, that’s not what you traded up for. 

 

Teams won’t know how his knee is until next year’s training camp, possibly longer since it takes some guys longer to mentally heal from an ACL. 
 

Jamison could slip in the draft. 

Cant say that isn’t a worry.  
 

It doesn’t sound like he’s going to slip out of the 10-15 range but who know what to believe right now. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'd rather have fewer picks with higher quality guys. The Bills don't need to draft 10 players who can't contribute much. We are only a piece or 2 away (if that) from hoisting that Lombardi. 

Same, if memory serves me correct it was heavily rumored Bills were trying to trade up in R2 to take their RB (or maybe back into R1?) but they could not.

 

I fully expect Bills to address DB in R1 then try and move up in the 2nd to nab their RB.

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

Except he might not play this season. The Bills are 4 WR deep already so there be no rushing him to play and make little sense trading up for him either. 

He very, very likely isn’t playing this season. 

[Shake_My_Head]

22 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Not arguing your point but I saw a quote from Beane today that he feels the Jimmy Johnson point system is terrible. It appears most GMs think it stinks but they don't allow their own point systems be known

I'm sure Johnson's system is very dated now, but it's still probably good enough to ballpark trade scenarios. 

 

My point is that trading down and adding more picks in the 35-60 range would yield solid prospects who could contribute this year and move into starting roles next year, especially if they move on from Poyer, Edmunds, Saffold, Crowder, Howard, Singletary, etc. 

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Edited April 26, 2022 by Shake_My_Head

[djp14150]

9 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'd rather have fewer picks with higher quality guys. The Bills don't need to draft 10 players who can't contribute much. We are only a piece or 2 away (if that) from hoisting that Lombardi. 

buffalo does not have a glaring hole.

 

the draft is stronger outside the1st round.  
 

buffalo trades down and has 4 picks in day 2 and fills depth in 4 positions

[mikemac2001]

14 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'd rather have fewer picks with higher quality guys. The Bills don't need to draft 10 players who can't contribute much. We are only a piece or 2 away (if that) from hoisting that Lombardi. 

We can still do that and get a couple of extra quality guys for when we get picked apart in FA 

 

let’s say picks 20-60 grade out similar I would rather have 4 in that range then 2 

Edited April 26, 2022 by mikemac2001

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Same, if memory serves me correct it was heavily rumored Bills were trying to trade up in R2 to take their RB (or maybe back into R1?) but they could not.

 

I fully expect Bills to address DB in R1 then try and move up in the 2nd to nab their RB.

He very, very likely isn’t playing this season. 

 

Jameson Williams is 100% playing this year. 

[mikemac2001]

25 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

buffalo does not have a glaring hole.

 

the draft is stronger outside the1st round.  
 

buffalo trades down and has 4 picks in day 2 and fills depth in 4 positions

Weird didn’t mean to copy but thought same thing 

[Richard Noggin]

7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

A designed pass play where the ball is completed behind the line of scrimmage to John Brown with pulling blockers in front of him is less of a ‘Smoke Screen’ than most of these rumors lol

 

It's a bit of a journey, but it lands nonetheless. 

[Yantha]

58 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'd rather have fewer picks with higher quality guys. The Bills don't need to draft 10 players who can't contribute much. We are only a piece or 2 away (if that) from hoisting that Lombardi. 

I agree Newcam, buuuuuut there is another side of that coin.  While it's nice to have more early round picks for hopeufully quality players, there is value to having as many picks as possible too!  It's extremely difficult to "hit" on a draft pick and find a handful of players who will last longer than a rookie contract in the NFL.

 

Cast a wide net with more picks, and use that practice squad to develop players (just another point to add here).  Hopefully the scouts get it right more often than not.

[HappyDays]

57 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Except he might not play this season. The Bills are 4 WR deep already so there be no rushing him to play and make little sense trading up for him either. 

 

No player we take in the 1st round this year is going to be the difference between winning the Super Bowl in 2022 or not. Ideally they're the difference in 2023. It's going to be very hard for any rookie to make an impact on the Bills this year. We are in fact uniquely positioned to be patient letting Jameson Williams recover fully and at the very least get some designed touches in the playoffs. This year the 1st round talents that we need to step up are Oliver, Rousseau, and Edmunds.

[BADOLBILZ]

57 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

 

No, we want to run more effectively and more disguised. Having a runner like Hall opens up so many possibilities. 

 

 

The top 3 possibilities that drafting Breece Hall in round 1 open up:

 

1. Taking the ball out of Josh Allen's hands more.

2. Keeping the RB's as a group from getting into a rhythm by dividing carries even further.

3. Potentially lowering the production per play from the alternative of handing it off to the very productive Devin Singletary.

 

I understand that Hall tested well but he didn't have a better college career rushing the football than Devin Singletary and neither were exceptional pass catchers.

 

Singletary's NFL career 4.7 yards per carry is not going to be easy to substantially upgrade from.    For reference,  the revered Johnathon Taylor has a career 5.3 ypc.........just a half yard per carry more.........and that's a high end result.     The odds are actually much greater that Hall will produce less ypc than Singletary..........because most highly drafted RB's do.  

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, djp14150 said:

buffalo does not have a glaring hole.

 

the draft is stronger outside the1st round.  
 

buffalo trades down and has 4 picks in day 2 and fills depth in 4 positions

Would be great if two of them are in the 2nd round - Jets (unlikely), Seahawks (maybe). Even if we have to throw in our 4th or 5th rounder. i.e. give up our 1st and 4th, get their 2 x 2nd rounders giving us 3 x 2nd round + 1 x 3rd round. Then draft Araiza with the 5th

[Virgil]

I think we should trade out 2nd to the USFL for Paxton Lynch.  I don't think he ever got a proper shot

[Warriorspikes51]

Jameson Williams AND Breece Hall

 

BIG BALLER BEANE

22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The top 3 possibilities that drafting Breece Hall in round 1 open up:

 

1. Taking the ball out of Josh Allen's hands more.

2. Keeping the RB's as a group from getting into a rhythm by dividing carries even further.

3. Potentially lowering the production per play from the alternative of handing it off to the very productive Devin Singletary.

 

I understand that Hall tested well but he didn't have a better college career rushing the football than Devin Singletary and neither were exceptional pass catchers.

 

Singletary's NFL career 4.7 yards per carry is not going to be easy to substantially upgrade from.    For reference,  the revered Johnathon Taylor has a career 5.3 ypc.........just a half yard per carry more.........and that's a high end result.     The odds are actually much greater that Hall will produce less ypc than Singletary..........because most highly drafted RB's do.  

No defense fears Devin Singletary.

They will fear Breece Hall.

He is a Dynamic RB who can be a weapon in the passing game.

 

that element to this offense puts every defense in a lose lose scenario on how to defend us….

 

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Jameson Williams AND Breece Hall

 

BIG BALLER BEANE

No defense fears Devin Singletary.

They will fear Breece Hall.

He is a Dynamic RB who can be a weapon in the passing game.

 

that element to this offense puts every defense in a lose lose scenario on how to defend us….

 

 

They don’t have to fear him. They just need to keep giving up 4.7 YPC. I’d like a speed threat to score from 80+ yards out, but we will be fine at RB. I don’t gamble on finding that guy in the first round. The first round is for premium positions, IMO. 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, djp14150 said:

buffalo does not have a glaring hole.

 

the draft is stronger outside the1st round.  
 

buffalo trades down and has 4 picks in day 2 and fills depth in 4 positions

"Draft is stronger outside the 1st round" Really? I don't think this is accurate by the very nature of the drafting process. 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Yantha said:

I agree Newcam, buuuuuut there is another side of that coin.  While it's nice to have more early round picks for hopeufully quality players, there is value to having as many picks as possible too!  It's extremely difficult to "hit" on a draft pick and find a handful of players who will last longer than a rookie contract in the NFL.

 

Cast a wide net with more picks, and use that practice squad to develop players (just another point to add here).  Hopefully the scouts get it right more often than not.

Generally speaking, I don't disagree.  However, the Bills are in a great position to make a super bowl run. Thus, they are in a win it all mode. All those picks in the lower rounds aren't likely to contribute to the win it all theme. Maybe, I'm wrong thinking that? I'd much rather have them trade up in rounds 1 to 3.  Personally, I'd love to see Sauce or Stingly in a Bills uniform. Unfortunately, I think the price is just too much. 

2 hours ago, mikemac2001 said:

We can still do that and get a couple of extra quality guys for when we get picked apart in FA 

 

let’s say picks 20-60 grade out similar I would rather have 4 in that range then 2 

That's fair. 

[RyanC883]

11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Interesting I disagree with you on the edge guys, but agree with you strongly on the tackles.

 

I don't even have a first on Walker, I think his tape is really underwhelming and from what I hear it is not a case of "teams always loved him and the draft media just took time to catch up". From what I understand teams were still seeing him as a late day 1 guy when he lit up the combine. It is a case of people re-interpreting his tape through the prism of what they saw in Indy IMO. I still need someone to convince me there is a way for him to win on the edge in the NFL. If someone wants to sell me on him being a true 1st round grade (I have a high 2 on him, though he is in my top 32) then they have more chance if they want to make a case that he should be seen as a 3 tech than they do persuading me he can be dominant edge rusher. I feel you a bit on Hutch being overrated because when I put his film on I don't see a #1 overall player. But he ends up there or thereabouts in this class by default for me because I don't really see anyone worthy of #1 overall.

 

I have Neal OT3 too. Cross is the best tackle in this class. I started with tackles this year and I have felt this way since January. It does seem as though in the last couple of weeks the buzz around Cross as a potential top 5 pick has picked up so maybe he is a case of draft media lower than teams. I actually had Slater and Sewell very close last year. I loved Sewell, but I could see the argument for Slater too. Slater was better as a rookie, but Sewell came on really strong down the stretch (admittedly playing right tackle when Decker got healthy). I still think both of those guys are going to be cornerstones. I liken my view on Cross to my view on Tristan Wirfs two years ago when I had him as my #1 tackle and others were banging the drum for Thomas and Wills. 

 

As for the draft rumours I have heard in the last week from reasonably credible people:

 

1. Kenny Pickett will be the only Quarterback taken in round 1.

2. Kyler Gordon will be the first Washington corner off the board.

3. Tyler Linderbaum will not go day 1. 

 

 

No.  3 is really surprising.  I could see several teams trading back into rd 1 to get him. 

[Buffalo716]

35 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

No.  3 is really surprising.  I could see several teams trading back into rd 1 to get him. 

His size might scare some teams off 

 

If he had ideal size he would be a top 25 pick... He might go 35 now

[BillsShredder83]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

His size might scare some teams off 

 

If he had ideal size he would be a top 25 pick... He might go 35 now

we talking arm length or weight here?

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

No player we take in the 1st round this year is going to be the difference between winning the Super Bowl in 2022 or not. Ideally they're the difference in 2023. It's going to be very hard for any rookie to make an impact on the Bills this year. We are in fact uniquely positioned to be patient letting Jameson Williams recover fully and at the very least get some designed touches in the playoffs. This year the 1st round talents that we need to step up are Oliver, Rousseau, and Edmunds.

We've been waiting for Edmunds to step it up for 4 years. Granted that's an over statement. However, it's pretty clear what Edmunds is. It's not like he's in year one or two. I doubt he plays much different than what we've seen. He's average and clearly not a game changer. 

[BillsShredder83]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

We've been waiting for Edmunds to step it up for 4 years. Granted that's an over statement. However, it's pretty clear what Edmunds is. It's not like he's in year one or two. I doubt he plays much different than what we've seen. He's average and clearly not a game changer. 

im not in the re-sign him club, but theres zero reason he shouldnt look substantially better this year just from the DL in front of him. will be a great position for his succesor to step into in 2023, but i expect improved LBing play this year, even if he plays at the same level