Bills are on the clock at #25

[BADOLBILZ]

11 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

You people are genuinely sad. 

 

There is no thread you won't thread-nap in pursuit of the desperate urge to express a stupid opinion.

 

It's like watching those sovereign citizen videos on youtube.

 

 

You should watch yourself............that is a football-free personal attack...........and I am guessing some kind of ppp garbage at the end.

 

In my 23+ years of experience here.......people who have started chasing after me with increasingly less football related takes soon disappear along with their desperate, stupid opinions.    

 

Just saying,  keep being football ignorant if you want........but compose yourself. 

 

The reality is that no team with a young All Pro MLB is in need of trading their top pass rusher for a much lesser player in Tremaine Edmunds.    

 

That's common sense.

 

And any thread where there isn't a LT option in a very strong draft early for tackles..........well it's obviously just a "let's draft for immediate need" thread and that's an absurd way to approach round 1.

[Nester]

Cb. Ol.  Wr

[Motorin']

It's a bit too early to have a good feel for the Bills targets and where they'll fall before FA and the combine. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

14 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

By Draft day, the highest player who is going to be drafted imo on this list is Jermaine Johnson from Florida State. He was my selection, need , best value. Davis is 6'7 and a mammoth man. Thats a lot of blocking area and no DT has ever been 6'7 and highly successful. Jameson Williams while good has a torn ACL and wont be available for part of the season and usually takes 2 years to full recover from. 

Everywhere I look Davis is listed at 6'6".

 

Off the top of my head John Henderson(6'7") and Marcus Stroud(6'6) were pretty good. Both made multiple pro bowls. 

[DrDawkinstein]

This is tough when the list includes SO MANY players that won't be available at #25.

 

I'd be thrilled with any of the UGA players, or Elam, or Williams. I lean towards Linderbaum as well, but would be difficult to pick him over some of the other talent in this list (that, again, wont actually be available to us).

 

If we can get a 3rd for Edmunds, then I'm picking Dean.

I think I'd wait on WR until later in the draft since there seem to be a lot of WRs in this class and Beane has been good about finding WR talent later.

 

I'd want to ensure Davis isnt Dareus2.0. Big guy who is often out of shape and sometimes takes plays off. But when he is on... ooo wee.

 

I guess I'd flip a coin between Elam and Linderbaum.

 

21 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

It's a bit too early to have a good feel for the Bills targets and where they'll fall before FA and the combine. 

 

The thread isnt about who we think the Bills will want. It's who WE would want as a fan.

[Brand J]

I picked Davis because it’s hard to find a man that big and heavy who moves that well. Only caveat would be I’d want him to play more than 50% of the snaps to maximize his value to the defense. If thats not guaranteed, go with a speedy CB or WR who will play close to 100% of the snaps.

[Thurman#1]

41 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Cmon bangarang, you say this every year. I listed half the darn prospects in the 1st round not including QBs! Pick one! 

 

 

Every year I'm with him. Sooner or later I end up supporting one guy or other, but IMO that's the right answer.

 

BPA at a position of need.

[Motorin']

34 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

The thread isnt about who we think the Bills will want. It's who WE would want as a fan.

 

Sure, still a bit early pre-combine to really know which player truly stands out. Here's what I want from the #1 pick this season:

 

- A potential lock-down cb who fills Tre's shoes in the next 3-5 years as Tre hits 30-32 years old... 

 

- A legitime deep threat #1 wr that can fill Diggs shoes in the next 3-5 year as Diggs get older too... 

 

- A high quality IOL starter that can play day 1 and make the O-line better than it was last year...

 

And I'm not sure which one of those I want more with the #1 pick out of the players that may be available.   

 

 

[BigAl2526]

I don't try to narrow it down to one pick I have to have.  I'd rule out a bunch of players on that list.  I'd be happy with Jermaine Johnson, Jordan Davis, Kenyon Green, Jamison Williams, Andrew Booth or Kaiir Elam.  I could live with Trent McDuffie or Roger McCreary.

[ColoradoBills]

7 hours ago, Nester said:

Cb. Ol.  Wr

 

BPA in descending order of CB, DT, IOL, WR.

There just has to be someone in those positions you don't have to reach for.

[TBBills]

They need to be a starter ASAP, need to hit this year to Edge up.

[LABILLBACKER]

22 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

I don’t think Dean is there, but if he makes it to 25 he’s the easy pick. He’s everything we want Edmunds to be. 

Dean is good but it will require someone giving us a 3rd for Edmunds. The league knows Tremaine and that's going to be a tough pitch.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

I don't try to narrow it down to one pick I have to have.  I'd rule out a bunch of players on that list.  I'd be happy with Jermaine Johnson, Jordan Davis, Kenyon Green, Jamison Williams, Andrew Booth or Kaiir Elam.  I could live with Trent McDuffie or Roger McCreary.

My top 5 in order of projected production would be:

1.   Linderbaum 

2.  Davis

3.  Booth

4.  Williams 

5.  Elam

[Victory Formation]

14 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

My top 5 in order of projected production would be:

1.   Linderbaum 

2.  Davis

3.  Booth

4.  Williams 

5.  Elam

Why Booth over Elam? Elam to me seems to be along the lines of Jalen Ramsey and Booth seems to be along the lines of TreDavious. Both are special.

[HOUSE]

I highly doubt the Bills are on the clock

[Buffalo03]

That guy...I think he will be the best pick at 25

[Rockinon]

I went with Elam as well. He would probably see the most playing time out of the gate compared to any others here. If you want an upgrade with our first pick, it has to be someone with a chance to play a significant number of snaps. I also like Linderbaum. Excelled as a wrestler, shotput and baseball in HS. Kid has game. He would have been my pick if he was a little bigger. At 290lbs, not sure he is a 1st round guy that can take on NFL Dlinemen. Looked great in college though.

[John from Riverside]

Was suprised on how many agreed with me on Jameson Williams

[bobobonators]

If we arent trading up and Linderbaum is there that almost seems like a no brainer. Linderbaum has day 1 starter and perennial pro bowler written all over him. 
 

We have to protect Allen. 

[Rockinon]

8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Was suprised on how many agreed with me on Jameson Williams

WR is a sneaky need for this team with McKenzie's and Sanders' contracts ending. Speed is something the offense needs to be successful.

[Cantankeous]

12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Was suprised on how many agreed with me on Jameson Williams

I’m surprised there’s 2 threads on this topic on the the front page. 
But that’s just me..🤷‍♂️

[stinky finger]

3 hours ago, Rockinon said:

WR is a sneaky need for this team with McKenzie's and Sanders' contracts ending. Speed is something the offense needs to be successful.

 

With all due respect, I don't think its sneaky at all.

 

Feed the beast.

On 2/11/2022 at 11:32 AM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Every year I'm with him. Sooner or later I end up supporting one guy or other, but IMO that's the right answer.

 

BPA at a position of need.

 

Ok - but that's not what he said.

[bobobonators]

As long as Allen is protected in the pocket, we dont need to have superstars at WR. We already have one in Diggs. Brady is the best QB in history with a bunch of no-names for the majority if his career. How many times did we see him standing like a statue in the pocket for 5-6 seconds? 
 

Diggs + Davis + Vet FA WR + mid-round rookie in the draft is plenty. Especially with Knox coming into his own at TE. Take a flier on a speed WR in rd 3 or rd 4.
 

Sure up the oline to protect our greatest asset is my thinking. 

Edited February 13, 2022 by bobobonators

[MTLBills]

This is my ranking of the OPs list in order:

 

Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, Florida State

Tyler Linderbaum, OC/OG, Iowa

Andrew Booth Jr, CB, Clemson

Zion Johnson, OG, Boston College

Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia

Jordan Davis, NT, Georgia

Drake London, WR, USC

Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama

Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State

Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State

Demarvin Leal, DL, Texas A&M

Devin Lloyd, EDGE, Utah

David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan

Travon Walker, DL, Georgia

Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida

 

Just a note on Elam. If you watch his games he is extremely soft. Shies away from tackling and gets blocked up easily by WRs and does not shed blocks well at all. All of which are the total opposite of what we look for in our DBs. 

[3rdand12]

I would like to see Edmunds moved. So Dean is my unqualified choice and my pick.
Davis if McBeanes vet him properly.
Huge impact position that i would love to have solved for next few years.

But Williams is likely the pick. Its IS all about Josh !

[RyanC883]

Davis for DT No. 1.  Hope OG/C is there in Rd. 2 or PSU WR whose name is escaping me.  

[billsbackto81]

On 2/10/2022 at 6:43 PM, JaCrispy said:

Would love to trade him straight up for Mack...👍

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Beane's Exec of the Year if he can pull that one.

[YoloinOhio]

57 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

Davis for DT No. 1.  Hope OG/C is there in Rd. 2 or PSU WR whose name is escaping me.  

Dotson 

[CNYfan]

After having those players swiped from our Practice Squad, I wonder in BBB (Big Baller Beane) will use some of those late rounders to move up a bit here and there?  

I am not sure if the salary cap and losing some veteran strength will reduce the need to keep decent players open to being swiped?

[Rockinon]

19 hours ago, inaugural balls said:

 

With all due respect, I don't think its sneaky at all.

 

Feed the beast.

You could be right. With Allen still slinging it to Diggs, Davis, and Beasley, the offense is still going to make plays. Don't forget Knox and the running backs can catch too. Thing is, any WR brought in is likely just going to be a backup. I want the #1 pick to be a significant contributor. Someone who is actually going to play a lot of snaps. Look how long it took before Davis started getting significant reps. A beast on the OL or a really good CB will do that. WR will take a long time to actually contribute. Not to diminish the importance of playmakers on offense....I certainly see the need. In all honesty though, I think the front office will continue to prioritize the defensive line.

[GunnerBill]

I voted for Andrew Booth, Cornerback, Clemson. Surprised he has so few votes. He is a top 5 player in the class for me. Not I will caveat that with the fact that he wouldn't be a top 5 player in a lot of other classes. I have a top 15 grade on him, but there just are not the real high end talents at the top of this draft class, so a guy like Booth who would normally be a mid first rounder will end up going early IMO. If he is somehow still there at #25 I'll sprint from London to Vegas to hand the card in and make it in time.... that's how much I like this kid. He was built to play in our defense. Reminds me so much of Tre White. 

 

My top 3 wish list is:

- Andrew Booth

- Trevor Penning

- Chris Olave

 

In that order. But I personally doubt any of them are there. Olave has the best chance. 

[Solomon Grundy]

16 hours ago, bobobonators said:

As long as Allen is protected in the pocket, we dont need to have superstars at WR. We already have one in Diggs. Brady is the best QB in history with a bunch of no-names for the majority if his career. How many times did we see him standing like a statue in the pocket for 5-6 seconds? 
 

Diggs + Davis + Vet FA WR + mid-round rookie in the draft is plenty. Especially with Knox coming into his own at TE. Take a flier on a speed WR in rd 3 or rd 4.
 

Sure up the oline to protect our greatest asset is my thinking. 

Brady wasn’t able to get it done in NE the past couple of years with no names. The league has changed. It used to be a RB needy league. It’s morphed into a pass oriented game 

[DCOrange]

I haven’t really scouted this season but I’d probably take the guy that’s been getting compared to Mike Evans (Drake London). Allows us to keep Davis in the slot where he thrives and have a three headed monster at WR. 

[SoCal Deek]

8 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I haven’t really scouted this season but I’d probably take the guy that’s been getting compared to Mike Evans (Drake London). Allows us to keep Davis in the slot where he thrives and have a three headed monster at WR. 

I’m a USC Alum and can verify that Drake London is a beast. He was literally unstoppable last year. He played on the Trojan basketball team before deciding to focus on football and then got REALLY hurt. With that injury however I’ll have to rely on the medical staff. 

[stinky finger]

7 hours ago, Rockinon said:

You could be right. With Allen still slinging it to Diggs, Davis, and Beasley, the offense is still going to make plays. Don't forget Knox and the running backs can catch too. Thing is, any WR brought in is likely just going to be a backup. I want the #1 pick to be a significant contributor. Someone who is actually going to play a lot of snaps. Look how long it took before Davis started getting significant reps. A beast on the OL or a really good CB will do that. WR will take a long time to actually contribute. Not to diminish the importance of playmakers on offense....I certainly see the need. In all honesty though, I think the front office will continue to prioritize the defensive line.

You think a rookie CB contributes sooner than a rookie WR with Josh throwing to him? 
 

I think not. 

[Rockinon]

I absolutely do think a rookie CB will see the field before a rookie WR. There's far more depth at WR. The CB's on this team are mediocre to awful with the exception of one. No WR is just going to handed starting role. After listening to Beane's interview, sounds like he wants to protect Josh. Could be we are both off.

[DJB]

On 2/10/2022 at 6:43 PM, JaCrispy said:

Would love to trade up for Mack...👍

 

Too late we traded up for Sammy Watkins

[Victory Formation]

On 2/13/2022 at 5:05 PM, SoCal Deek said:

I’m a USC Alum and can verify that Drake London is a beast. He was literally unstoppable last year. He played on the Trojan basketball team before deciding to focus on football and then got REALLY hurt. With that injury however I’ll have to rely on the medical staff. 

I agree strongly with this. He’s probably in my top 5 as far as this entire list is concerned. 
 

I see it as this:

 

1. Kaiir Elam

2. Andrew Booth

3. Tyler Linderbaum

4. Drake London

5. Jordan Davis

 

I strongly think that CB should be our #1 priority. I saw a gentleman in this thread say that Kaiir Elam isn’t willing to tackle, but  I happen to disagree. He has an intimidating blend of size and speed, he’s a great athlete and I think he has an impressive skill set for our staff to work with. His dad and uncle both played in the NFL too, so he has a convincing pedigree and more importantly, quality coaching since his youth as a football player.

 

I am annoyed to admit that we need to draft another corner in the 1st round however. In my heart of hearts I would rather go after a guy like Drake London or Tyler Linderbaum.

Jordan Davis is also a convincing prospect, but do we have to burn yet another 1st on a defensive lineman? 

[Victory Formation]

Calling all draft provocateurs, connoisseurs and contrarians alike!

•
•
•

Who are this drafts risers, sleepers and sinkers?

 

(When I mean sleepers, I don’t necessarily mean 6th, 7th and UDFAs. I also mean players who will go earlier than their “projected” draft rankings.) 

 

DISCLAIMER: If you are brave, pick a player who you think will drop come draft day!

_____________________________
 

I’ve got three players whom I feel will either get drafted higher than expected or will completely outperform all expectations once they reach the NFL.

 

1.) Wan’Dale Robinson, WR, Kentucky

• Wan’Dale Robinson is an elite slot receiver  in the mold of Tyreek Hill with a splash of Cole Beasley and Isaiah McKenzie in him. He is projected to go anywhere from the top of the 3rd round all the way up to the bottom of the second round. I could very well see his stock rise very steeply after the combine. Wan’Dale would give Josh another elite weapon to pair with Diggs & Davis. 
 

CBS: #57

PFF: #85

BR: #67

 

2. Zachary Carter, DT, Florida

• At 6’4 285lbs he has a big frame to work with, he’s explosive and quick and could easily pack on another 10-20lbs. He’s projected as a 4th-5th round pick, but I think he has the talent of a high end 2nd round pick. He’s racked up 17 sacks in the last 3 years for Florida along with 25 TFL. Is he the big fat NT we are looking for? No, but he is a talented player to rotate in alongside Oliver on that DL.

 

CBS: #U/R

PFF: #158

BR: #128

 

3. Alontae Taylor, CB, Tennessee 

• Standing at 6’0 195lbs, Taylor has prototypical size for the CB position. He’s a mid round prospect, somewhere in the realms of maybe the 4th-5th round but I think Taylor would be a great selection with our 3rd round pick. He’s a talented player physically and would really give our coaching staff a player who has a very solid  physical skill set to work with. I could easily see this guy locking down that CB spot opposite of Tre come week 1. He’s boasted of 4 INTs over the last 3 years, including 2 last year. I am a firm believer in going CB RD1, but even so, it would not be a bad idea to select this guy later in the draft even with if we do!

 

CBS: #80

PFF: #U/R

BR: #U/R

 

[whorlnut]

On 2/17/2022 at 12:02 AM, Victory Formation said:

I agree strongly with this. He’s probably in my top 5 as far as this entire list is concerned. 
 

I see it as this:

 

1. Kaiir Elam

2. Andrew Booth

3. Tyler Linderbaum

4. Drake London

5. Jordan Davis

 

I strongly think that CB should be our #1 priority. I saw a gentleman in this thread say that Kaiir Elam isn’t willing to tackle, but  I happen to disagree. He has an intimidating blend of size and speed, he’s a great athlete and I think he has an impressive skill set for our staff to work with. His dad and uncle both played in the NFL too, so he has a convincing pedigree and more importantly, quality coaching since his youth as a football player.

 

I am annoyed to admit that we need to draft another corner in the 1st round however. In my heart of hearts I would rather go after a guy like Drake London or Tyler Linderbaum.

Jordan Davis is also a convincing prospect, but do we have to burn yet another 1st on a defensive lineman? 

We absolutely do NOT need to draft a corner in round one. I’m fact, I think it would be really dumb. This staff has an uncanny ability to maximize a DB’s skill set and have made an undrafted FA and a seventh round pick viable players. We can get a solid corner in the third or fourth and I have all the confidence in the world it would be an upgrade with this coaching staff.