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This would/will be an awesome hire.  It's like the Trubisky of coaches coming in.  Any time you can get a position coach with recent OC experience I think that's a pretty good win.

 

Were the Carolina offensive woes really his fault?  I don't know that we can say they were based on the QB play.

 

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17 minutes ago, Belgium_Bill said:

Love Fitz, but you know what karma he brings as a back-up, that's Josh blowing his ACL by week 4 of next season 😉 

 

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

That’s not a bad nickname 

 

“May I present the King maker, drought breaker, defender of the north and conquer of the East. Josh Allen of Buffalo, first in his name.” 

 

No, we'll just add 'curse-breaker' to his titles and it will all be good. 

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

This makes it sound like we ran 11 personnel based on QB deficiency. Or at least makes it sound like Allen needs to be coached how to run it. But like....did Nolan watch our OL for the first 80% of the season? It was a major liability. 

 

Josh may very well need to improve here, but erring on the side of heavy sets seemed have been needed based on OL issues, not QB play....

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1 hour ago, JimBob2232 said:

Except for LSU and Penn State and William and Mary.  Guy is 32 years old and has 2 years on NFL experience and suddenly isn’t “a college coach”.  
 

i get what you are saying - but a little stability for him would go a long way. Been successful everywhere (except Carolina) - but needs to stay put somewhere and build a resume. I think he would do just fine in college. 

He was in NO with Sean Payton for 2 years as well. 

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3 hours ago, Rubes said:

Sounding more official...

 

 

 

 

ESPN reporting it

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33201753

 

1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:

Bills are lining up sham interviews as we speak. 

 

 That's only for OC and DC interviews, and HC

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I would be shocked if Buffalo doesn't promote Ryan Wendell to OL coach. 

 

I was thinking that would be intriguing, given his history in NE playing for the legendary Coach Scar.

 

But now I wonder if they want to bring in someone relatively more experienced to support a new OC.

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exciting hire for sure - the collaborationn of Dorsey-Brady-Josh-Webb and new OL coach (TBD) is energizing - in the worst case if Dorsey here only 1 year then Brady rises to OC a nice succession plan....not expecting anything on the D-side of the balll unless Frazier gets hired (Mia, Hou, Minn)...he interviewed with Mia at least once and Hou last year - not sure about this year ?  he coached Minn already doubtful he goes back there...

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God I love this place. Where else can you go from FilthyBeast’s self-loathing “eveyone and everything sucks” posts to other guys worrying about replacing Ken Dorsey, who hasn’t coached 1 snap yet as OC, because he’s going to get a head coaching job next year, all in a couple of threads!

 

I like the Brady hire. I echo other’s sentiments that we get a Munchak or Callahan as O-line coach we will be flying in to next season on offense.

 

I don’t think it’s just Allen, but he’s a huge draw. I think this is a very well respected coaching/front office throughout the league and it doesn’t hurt to have an owner who just fracks a little more to pay them top dollar.

 

 

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2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

I dont know this for fact, and it’s distant info, but tierney may have physically left for NJ with daboll.  So this would have been done last week. 

 

Sounds plausible.  Whatever happened though, the Bills upgraded.

 

2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

So what coaching openings remain on the staff?  

 

OL.  Praying for Munchak.

 

And soon to be: STC.

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7 minutes ago, Mark92 said:

I can see a lot of interest from free agents willing to take less to play with Josh.  He's our Bell Cow to the promised land.  

 

I'm a bit surprised there's not rules against this sort of thing. It's even more of a disadvantages to the have-nots, that a well marketed star can take 80% of what he can get on the open market to play for a championship, all the while knowing he can make up for it with his endorsements

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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I know a bunch of guys here are big fans of "Bruce Exclusive", but this just strikes me as weird.

 

First of all, if Joe Brady taught any of the Carolina QB to function out of empty sets with 5 man protections, it's news to me.

According to guys like Sharp Football who track this stuff, Carolina ran less than 1% of its plays out of 5WR sets and most out of (1,1) or (1,2) sets

 

For another thing, Josh seemed to function out of an empty backfield with 5 man protections just fine in 2020.  To the extent that he didn't in 2021, it seemed to have a lot more to do with the quality of the OL and the way opponents were defending us.

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7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I know a bunch of guys here are big fans of "Bruce Exclusive", but this just strikes me as weird.

 

First of all, if Joe Brady taught any of the Carolina QB to function out of empty sets with 5 man protections, it's news to me.

According to guys like Sharp Football who track this stuff, Carolina ran less than 1% of its plays out of 5WR sets and most out of (1,1) or (1,2) sets

 

For another thing, Josh seemed to function out of an empty backfield with 5 man protections just fine in 2020.  To the extent that he didn't in 2021, it seemed to have a lot more to do with the quality of the OL and the way opponents were defending us.

Part of the problem was Brady wanted to have a heavier passing game but Ruhle wanted a heavy run game. 

 

Ruhle then used him as the scapegoat because their run game sucked.

 

 

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This might be the most important under the radar coaching hire by the Bills in the last 20 years.

 

Joe Brady is a phenom when it comes to designing an elite passing attack. What he did in LSU in one season with a transfer QB and a couple of unknown WR's is the stuff of legend. LSU did not have a reputation of being a passing team. They were a play great defense and run the ball type of program. That Joe Brady was the sole architect of an LSU passing offense that was the greatest ever seen in college football history is beyond dispute.  Both the LSU head coach and offensive coordinator were novices when it came to implementing an NFL level passing game.  That's why they hired Brady.

 

Obviously going from Saints Offensive Quality Control coach to Passing game coordinator at LSU to offensive coordinator at Carolina in three years was a classic case of being promoted to fast.  Now we have a guy who was thrown under the bus by the Panthers getting a chance to take a step back and show the league what he can do.  We should all be very excited at what Dorsey, Brady and Allen will do together.  I suspect we're about to see history made.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, JimBob2232 said:

Except for LSU and Penn State and William and Mary.  Guy is 32 years old and has 2 years on NFL experience and suddenly isn’t “a college coach”.  
 

i get what you are saying - but a little stability for him would go a long way. Been successful everywhere (except Carolina) - but needs to stay put somewhere and build a resume. I think he would do just fine in college. 

 

 

 Which 2 years of NFL experience are you talking about?    The 2 with the Saints or the 2 with the Panthers?   He was twice suddenly not a college coach and that's the way he wanted it because he doesn't want to recruit.

 

I have no idea if he needs stability.    I think he figures he probably needs to be a year removed from getting fired before he can secure an OC job in a situation where he is poised to succeed (and advance his likely goal of becoming a HC).    

 

 

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9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

This might be the most important under the radar coaching hire by the Bills in the last 20 years.

 

Joe Brady is a phenom when it comes to designing an elite passing attack. What he did in LSU in one season with a transfer QB and a couple of unknown WR's is the stuff of legend. LSU did not have a reputation of being a passing team. They were a play great defense and run the ball type of program. That Joe Brady was the sole architect of an LSU passing offense that was the greatest ever seen in college football history is beyond dispute.  Both the LSU head coach and offensive coordinator were novices when it came to implementing an NFL level passing game.  That's why they hired Brady.

 

Obviously going from Saints Offensive Quality Control coach to Passing game coordinator at LSU to offensive coordinator at Carolina in three years was a classic case of being promoted to fast.  Now we have a guy who was thrown under the bus by the Panthers getting a chance to take a step back and show the league what he can do.  We should all be very excited at what Dorsey, Brady and Allen will do together.  I suspect we're about to see history made.

 

Sure, but what's the upside?

 

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3 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

Sure, but what's the upside?

 

I suspect that as more Bills fans become aware of Brady's history and what he did at LSU they are going to get real excited about the possibilities here.  IMO this could be a perfect storm that results in a historically explosive NFL offense.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 Which 2 years of NFL experience are you talking about?    The 2 with the Saints or the 2 with the Panthers?   He was twice suddenly not a college coach and that's the way he wanted it because he doesn't want to recruit.

 

I have no idea if he needs stability.    I think he figures he probably needs to be a year removed from getting fired before he can secure an OC job in a situation where he is poised to succeed (and advance his likely goal of becoming a HC).    

 

 

It's easy to say today that Burrow, Chase and Jefferson were always great but the reality is that they were relative unknowns when Brady took the job as LSU's passing coordinator in 2019.  The LSU head coach and offensive coordinator suspected they had something special with these guys but didn't have the knowledge to create an offense they could flourish in.  Brady not only implemented an NFL stye passing game at LSU he called the pass plays on game day.  And that LSU team went to have the greatest passing attack in college football history with the QB and both WR's having great success in the NFL.

 

For me it's Brady's experience at LSU that is so exciting for what he might do in Buffalo with Allen.  Brady recognized that he had an NFL caliber QB and WR's and he designed an NFL passing attack to take advantage.  Go back and watch some of those LSU games in 2019, particularly the SEC championship game and the two playoff games to see how Brady coordinates a passing attack.

 

Not only will Diggs love what Brady brings to the table but Davis s going to really emerge as a threat in a Brady passing system.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I suspect that as more Bills fans become aware of Brady's history and what he did at LSU they are going to get real excited about the possibilities here.  IMO this could be a perfect storm that results in a historically explosive NFL offense.

 

 

 

This guy seems to agree with you...

 

 

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7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The problem Brady is having getting what he wants is that everyone in college knows he wants to be in the pro's...........and doesn't want to recruit...........otherwise he would get a huge deal as a college OC.

 

Everyone in the pro's knows he sucked as an OC at Carolina.

 

So while it seems like a step back.......taking a QB coach job with a Bills team that.........if they play their personnel cards right this offseason.........could end up as one of the all-time scoring offenses in NFL history certainly makes sense.

 

Offensive goal for 2022......38 points per game. 

 

 

Yeah, hard to believe he couldn't get more out of Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, PJ Walker and Chubba Hubbard...

 

Anyway, I don't think Josh needs this guy at this point.  His QB Coach is now also his OC.  

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17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Yeah, hard to believe he couldn't get more out of Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, PJ Walker and Chubba Hubbard...

 

Anyway, I don't think Josh needs this guy at this point.  His QB Coach is now also his OC.  

 

They need a QB coach.  It's best to let Dorsey concentrate on being an OC only.

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8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The problem Brady is having getting what he wants is that everyone in college knows he wants to be in the pro's...........and doesn't want to recruit...........otherwise he would get a huge deal as a college OC.

 

Everyone in the pro's knows he sucked as an OC at Carolina.

 

So while it seems like a step back.......taking a QB coach job with a Bills team that.........if they play their personnel cards right this offseason.........could end up as one of the all-time scoring offenses in NFL history certainly makes sense.

 

Offensive goal for 2022......38 points per game. 

 

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53 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Yeah, hard to believe he couldn't get more out of Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, PJ Walker and Chubba Hubbard...

 

Anyway, I don't think Josh needs this guy at this point.  His QB Coach is now also his OC.  

Allen is very coachable and open to any ideas that improve his game.  Joe Brady is well known to the QB's & WR's of the NFL because of that amazing season at LSU. Allen will appreciate the insight Brady brings to the table and Brady will appreciate that he's lucked into coaching the NFL's most electrifying QB. There is ever reason to believe that these two will make magic together.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Now can we just get an old grizzly proven OL coach in the building please? That would be ideal. 

Like Carl Mauck?

 

😄

 

I love the hiring. Great credentials for the position... plus the William and Mary pedigree (Marv, McDermott, Tomlin) and the fact that he's from the Sean Payton coaching tree.

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