McD's Bills in postseason: 3-0 at Home, 0-4 Road.

[Artem Lipatov]

Statistically we despareatly need home field advantage and #1 seed. Each game in regular season matters indeed.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

9 minutes ago, Artem Lipatov said:

Statistically we despareatly need home field advantage and #1 seed. Each game in regular season matters indeed.

Context matters. But yes getting the Chiefs or anyone else to come to Buffalo should be the goal next year. Can't have Jacksonville games next year.

Edited January 28, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[1ManRaid]

Sigh, this again.  Ok, let's break it down.

 

Loss 1 - Overachieving season with Tyrod Taylor at QB.  We weren't even supposed to be there.

Loss 2 - Another overachieving season, still rebuilding, with a "not yet good" Josh Allen, and pre-Diggs.  Got screwed by refball in OT.  Backbreaking penalty against Bills ends up being used as example of the definition of a legal play.

Loss 3 - Battered and bruised AFC championship game.  WR corps were a walking MASH ward playing with all manner of injuries including fractured bones.

Loss 4 - Legendary slugfest against another offensive juggernaut in what was expected to be a close game, regardless of venue.  Bad defensive playcalling at end of game leads to getting screwed by outdated OT rules (coin flip).

 

Win 1 and 2 - Still figuring out this whole "being good" thing, squeeking by good teams with flaws.

Win 3 - Absolute roflstomp on a highly overrated team we already stomped the month before.  Narrative in this game was more about the false narratives about our team coming INTO this game.

 

Sure playing at home would be nice, but clearly you seem to be the type who only reads headlines and box scores, and doesn't read the whole article to get the context.

[SectionC3]

I'll condense all of this.  He's blown two of four road playoff games.  Games that we should have won but that we screwed up.  There we have it. 

[PromoTheRobot]

Yay, stats.

[Greg S]

Last road playoff win was the 93 AFCCG over the Fins.

[Artem Lipatov]

38 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

Sigh, this again.  Ok, let's break it down.

 

Loss 1 - Overachieving season with Tyrod Taylor at QB.  We weren't even supposed to be there.

Loss 2 - Another overachieving season, still rebuilding, with a "not yet good" Josh Allen, and pre-Diggs.  Got screwed by refball in OT.  Backbreaking penalty against Bills ends up being used as example of the definition of a legal play.

Loss 3 - Battered and bruised AFC championship game.  WR corps were a walking MASH ward playing with all manner of injuries including fractured bones.

Loss 4 - Legendary slugfest against another offensive juggernaut in what was expected to be a close game, regardless of venue.  Bad defensive playcalling at end of game leads to getting screwed by outdated OT rules (coin flip).

 

Win 1 and 2 - Still figuring out this whole "being good" thing, squeeking by good teams with flaws.

Win 3 - Absolute roflstomp on a highly overrated team we already stomped the month before.  Narrative in this game was more about the false narratives about our team coming INTO this game.

 

Sure playing at home would be nice, but clearly you seem to be the type who only reads headlines and box scores, and doesn't read the whole article to get the context.

I watched all these games. But these polar stats tell more than your thousand words.

[78thealltimegreat]

1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

Sigh, this again.  Ok, let's break it down.

 

Loss 1 - Overachieving season with Tyrod Taylor at QB.  We weren't even supposed to be there.

Loss 2 - Another overachieving season, still rebuilding, with a "not yet good" Josh Allen, and pre-Diggs.  Got screwed by refball in OT.  Backbreaking penalty against Bills ends up being used as example of the definition of a legal play.

Loss 3 - Battered and bruised AFC championship game.  WR corps were a walking MASH ward playing with all manner of injuries including fractured bones.

Loss 4 - Legendary slugfest against another offensive juggernaut in what was expected to be a close game, regardless of venue.  Bad defensive playcalling at end of game leads to getting screwed by outdated OT rules (coin flip).

 

Win 1 and 2 - Still figuring out this whole "being good" thing, squeeking by good teams with flaws.

Win 3 - Absolute roflstomp on a highly overrated team we already stomped the month before.  Narrative in this game was more about the false narratives about our team coming INTO this game.

 

Sure playing at home would be nice, but clearly you seem to be the type who only reads headlines and box scores, and doesn't read the whole article to get the context.

What I was going to say these games need to be taken in context heck two losses where on the road and where in overtime

One was a one possession game in Jacksonville

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

Sigh, this again.  Ok, let's break it down.

 

Loss 1 - Overachieving season with Tyrod Taylor at QB.  We weren't even supposed to be there.

Loss 2 - Another overachieving season, still rebuilding, with a "not yet good" Josh Allen, and pre-Diggs.  Got screwed by refball in OT.  Backbreaking penalty against Bills ends up being used as example of the definition of a legal play.

Loss 3 - Battered and bruised AFC championship game.  WR corps were a walking MASH ward playing with all manner of injuries including fractured bones.

Loss 4 - Legendary slugfest against another offensive juggernaut in what was expected to be a close game, regardless of venue.  Bad defensive playcalling at end of game leads to getting screwed by outdated OT rules (coin flip).

 

Win 1 and 2 - Still figuring out this whole "being good" thing, squeeking by good teams with flaws.

Win 3 - Absolute roflstomp on a highly overrated team we already stomped the month before.  Narrative in this game was more about the false narratives about our team coming INTO this game.

 

Sure playing at home would be nice, but clearly you seem to be the type who only reads headlines and box scores, and doesn't read the whole article to get the context.

 

Not to mention that kickoff thing where they just didn't down the ball... 

[Freddie's Dead]

I'd argue three chokes, since we kept punting against JAX instead of going for it.

[BillsFanSD]

3 hours ago, Artem Lipatov said:

Statistically we despareatly need home field advantage and #1 seed. Each game in regular season matters indeed.

Statistically, somebody needs to read up on drawing sweeping conclusions from small sample sizes.

[Bangarang]

#analytics

[bigduke6]

well with those home vs away stats i guess we shouldnt have f'd around during the season and lost a few games that should have been absolute wins.

 

i remember some peeps on here telling me to calm down during one of the tire fire games against a crap team where we lost,  and i replied,  hey,  do u want to play the Chefs in Arrowhead in January?    i was told,   dont worry bout it,  everything will work out,  Chefs are bad,  etc etc etc.   

 

here we sit.  

 

next season,  dominate every friggen game like its your last.   youre playing for home field advantage.    we dont want to go to Arrowhead again.

[dave mcbride]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

I'll condense all of this.  He's blown two of four road playoff games.  Games that we should have won but that we screwed up.  There we have it. 

Disagree about Houston. Allen threw three passes that should have been easy picks but were dropped. He did not play well and the Bills were lucky to get to OT.

[SectionC3]

33 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Disagree about Houston. Allen threw three passes that should have been easy picks but were dropped. He did not play well and the Bills were lucky to get to OT.

 

Sorry.  I can’t go there.  We should have closed the door.  We blew a 16-0 halftime lead (IIRC).  I get the Duke drop at the end of the first half, and the bogus call on the kickoff to start the second half, and that those things should have put it away. But the D should have bagged that thing.  And it didn’t.  

[Niagara Dude]

51 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

I'd argue three chokes, since we kept punting against JAX instead of going for it.

For sure,  defence gave up leads in last 3 games.  The game on Sunday was fine line between choke job and just stupid coaching,  the whole country was laughing at how Bills decided to defend those last two passes.  

[ArtVandalay]

3 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

Sigh, this again.  Ok, let's break it down.

 

Loss 1 - Overachieving season with Tyrod Taylor at QB.  We weren't even supposed to be there. 

Loss 2 - Another overachieving season, still rebuilding, with a "not yet good" Josh Allen, and pre-Diggs.  Got screwed by refball in OT.  Backbreaking penalty against Bills ends up being used as example of the definition of a legal play.

Loss 3 - Battered and bruised AFC championship game.  WR corps were a walking MASH ward playing with all manner of injuries including fractured bones.

Loss 4 - Legendary slugfest against another offensive juggernaut in what was expected to be a close game, regardless of venue.  Bad defensive playcalling at end of game leads to getting screwed by outdated OT rules (coin flip).

 

Win 1 and 2 - Still figuring out this whole "being good" thing, squeeking by good teams with flaws.

Win 3 - Absolute roflstomp on a highly overrated team we already stomped the month before.  Narrative in this game was more about the false narratives about our team coming INTO this game.

 

Sure playing at home would be nice, but clearly you seem to be the type who only reads headlines and box scores, and doesn't read the whole article to get the context.

L1 - vs Blake Bortles Jaguars, he threw for under 100, Fournette ran 21 for 57, and McDermott's odd obsession with one of the worst QBs in history continued as he plugged Peterman in who threw a pick on only 3 passes.  10-3 loss.

 

L2 - Bills had the game solidly in hand at half time,  winning 16-0 in dominant fashion.  He then got insanely over the top conservative,  packed the offense in, played for FGs and the Bills squandered the game away getting outscored 19-3 in the second half before losing in OT.

 

L3 - We go up 9-0, McDermott again is too conservative on offense... down 21-9 we kicked a FG from the 2 yard line! Down 24-12 we kick a FG from the 8! Horrendous defensive strategy letting Kelce/Hill run free all game with zero adjustments made, so bad the commentators were calling the Bills out circling the screen all game saying well no one on Kelce again this is going to him you can't do this... Hill had 172 yards, Kelce had 13/118... the rest of the KC team had 35 yards... no adjustments made just plain vanilla, sit and watch get shredded as we kick two FGs from KC 2 and 8 squandering a 9-0 head start.

 

L4 - Historic coaching collapse in final 13 seconds wastes one of the greatest QB postseason in the history of the NFL.

 

In each and every one of these games the Bills had the lead and pissed the game away. The lead in every game.

Edited January 28, 2022 by ArtVandalay

[Freddie's Dead]

8 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

For sure,  defence gave up leads in last 3 games.  The game on Sunday was fine line between a choke job and just stupid coaching,  the whole country was laughing at how Bills decided to defend those last two passes.  

 

FTFY.

[Niagara Dude]

30 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Sorry.  I can’t go there.  We should have closed the door.  We blew a 16-0 halftime lead (IIRC).  I get the Duke drop at the end of the first half, and the bogus call on the kickoff to start the second half, and that those things should have put it away. But the D should have bagged that thing.  And it didn’t.  

Even a second year QB made enough plays top win and there was Frazier and his bend but don't break defence choking it away yet again.

[MJS]

In the playoffs if you aren't playing at home that means you are the underdog because you are facing a higher seeded team.

[Motorin']

So, how do we get a Super Bowl in Buffalo?

 

Build the dome! Build the dome!

[Captain Hindsight]

49 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

L1 - vs Blake Bortles Jaguars, he threw for under 100, Fournette ran 21 for 57, and McDermott's odd obsession with one of the worst QBs in history continued as he plugged Peterman in who threw a pick on only 3 passes.  10-3 loss.

 

L2 - Bills had the game solidly in hand at half time,  winning 16-0 in dominant fashion.  He then got insanely over the top conservative,  packed the offense in, played for FGs and the Bills squandered the game away getting outscored 19-3 in the second half before losing in OT.

 

L3 - We go up 9-0, McDermott again is too conservative on offense... down 21-9 we kicked a FG from the 2 yard line! Down 24-12 we kick a FG from the 8! Horrendous defensive strategy letting Kelce/Hill run free all game with zero adjustments made, so bad the commentators were calling the Bills out circling the screen all game saying well no one on Kelce again this is going to him you can't do this... Hill had 172 yards, Kelce had 13/118... the rest of the KC team had 35 yards... no adjustments made just plain vanilla, sit and watch get shredded as we kick two FGs from KC 2 and 8 squandering a 9-0 head start.

 

L4 - Historic coaching collapse in final 13 seconds wastes one of the greatest QB postseason in the history of the NFL.

 

In each and every one of these games the Bills had the lead and pissed the game away. The lead in every game.

Tyrod was hurt. He was concussed

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Context matters. But yes getting the Chiefs or anyone else to come to Buffalo should be the goal next year. Can't have Jacksonville games next year.

Exactly. That Jags game blew up the whole season. As it should have. 

[ArtVandalay]

8 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Tyrod was hurt. He was concussed

That's right! He was forced out. Still the entire Peterman debacle for those 2 seasons was just bafflingly awful. I still can't believe we went into the season with him as the starter the following year. 

 

He started 4 games, in those starts he completed 52% for 335 yards (84 yards per game), with 1 TD and 10 INT on 91 pass attempts (11% int rate).

Edited January 28, 2022 by ArtVandalay

[Billl]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Disagree about Houston. Allen threw three passes that should have been easy picks but were dropped. He did not play well and the Bills were lucky to get to OT.

If there’s a sliver lining, winning that game would have meant a trip to Kansas City the following week.  That Divisional Round game didn’t just knock the Texans out of the playoffs, it sent their entire franchise into a tailspin.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

10 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

That's right! He was forced out. Still the entire Peterman debacle for those 2 seasons was just bafflingly awful. I still can't believe we went into the season with him as the starter the following year. 

 

He started 4 games, in those starts he completed 52% for 335 yards (84 yards per game), with 1 TD and 10 INT on 91 pass attempts (11% int rate).

And Bates sat for most of the year. And Davis got limited snaps early in the year. Teller was traded.  PED Murphy played over Lawson.  Gilliam on the roster.  Sweeney as the only back-up TE.  Peterman is just the worst example.  The list is rather long of personnel moves that make no sense.  

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Sorry.  I can’t go there.  We should have closed the door.  We blew a 16-0 halftime lead (IIRC).  I get the Duke drop at the end of the first half, and the bogus call on the kickoff to start the second half, and that those things should have put it away. But the D should have bagged that thing.  And it didn’t.  

Allen was not great but again the defense choked (sound familiar?) and Knox missed a block that Allen would have possibly scored on a QB sweep.  

[without a drought]

50 minutes ago, MJS said:

In the playoffs if you aren't playing at home that means you are the underdog because you are facing a higher seeded team.

Ok, Mr Logic, keep your thoughts to yourself.

[BillsFanSD]

54 minutes ago, MJS said:

In the playoffs if you aren't playing at home that means you are the underdog because you are facing a higher seeded team.

Don't tell anybody, but the 2017 Jaguars were a better team than the 2017 Bills.  Also the 2019 Texans/Bills and 2020 Chiefs/Bills.  We lost those games to teams that were better than us.  

 

This year was different of course, but still.

[Cray51]

I see we are counting any loss as a choke job at coaching now.

[purple haze]

5 hours ago, Artem Lipatov said:

Statistically we despareatly need home field advantage and #1 seed. Each game in regular season matters indeed.

I understand the sentiment and agree that each game matters in regular season.  Home field would be great to have.  But eventually, they’re going to need to win on the road.  
 

If they make the playoffs next season and have to play on the road I’d still be confident they would win.  

[popcornpam]

1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

L1 - vs Blake Bortles Jaguars, he threw for under 100, Fournette ran 21 for 57, and McDermott's odd obsession with one of the worst QBs in history continued as he plugged Peterman in who threw a pick on only 3 passes.  10-3 loss.

 

L2 - Bills had the game solidly in hand at half time,  winning 16-0 in dominant fashion.  He then got insanely over the top conservative,  packed the offense in, played for FGs and the Bills squandered the game away getting outscored 19-3 in the second half before losing in OT.

 

L3 - We go up 9-0, McDermott again is too conservative on offense... down 21-9 we kicked a FG from the 2 yard line! Down 24-12 we kick a FG from the 8! Horrendous defensive strategy letting Kelce/Hill run free all game with zero adjustments made, so bad the commentators were calling the Bills out circling the screen all game saying well no one on Kelce again this is going to him you can't do this... Hill had 172 yards, Kelce had 13/118... the rest of the KC team had 35 yards... no adjustments made just plain vanilla, sit and watch get shredded as we kick two FGs from KC 2 and 8 squandering a 9-0 head start.

 

L4 - Historic coaching collapse in final 13 seconds wastes one of the greatest QB postseason in the history of the NFL.

 

In each and every one of these games the Bills had the lead and pissed the game away. The lead in every game.

Yes, another MickeyDee conservative special. Will he learn next year? 

[Captain Hindsight]

36 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

That's right! He was forced out. Still the entire Peterman debacle for those 2 seasons was just bafflingly awful. I still can't believe we went into the season with him as the starter the following year. 

 

He started 4 games, in those starts he completed 52% for 335 yards (84 yards per game), with 1 TD and 10 INT on 91 pass attempts (11% int rate).

McCarron was so bad they didnt really have a choice. Luckily they didnt let it linger past halftime week one 

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Sorry.  I can’t go there.  We should have closed the door.  We blew a 16-0 halftime lead (IIRC).  I get the Duke drop at the end of the first half, and the bogus call on the kickoff to start the second half, and that those things should have put it away. But the D should have bagged that thing.  And it didn’t.  

Home field in that game meant something -- the Texans weren't called for one penalty that wasn't pre-snap. And they held all game. 

[FilthyBeast]

Home field matters in the playoffs and one of the biggest reasons that Mahomes has so much success so far in his career is that he's never played a road playoff game other than the 2 SB's which he has split so far.

 

If you look at the Patriots and Brady's success going back to their first run of SB's in the early 2000's, a majority of the time they were either a top 2 seed in the AFC and/or hosted the championship game in Foxboro.

 

This is why the message for 2022 must be clear, play consistent football over a 17 game season and position yourself to ensure you never have to leave Orchard Park in Jan/Feb 2023 unless it's for the SB.

[Nextmanup]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Yay, stats.

Weren't ever much for that fancy book learnin', were ya?

 

😆

2 hours ago, Motorin' said:

So, how do we get a Super Bowl in Buffalo?

 

Build the dome! Build the dome!

You can argue the lesson to be learned from the 13 seconds is don't screw around during the regular season and if the No. 1 seed is available, GO GET IT.  You beat KC in Arrowhead by NEVER PLAYING THAT GAME!!!

 

The KC game would have likely been different in some way had it been played in Buffalo, and statistically, getting the first week BYE is HUGE in getting to the Super Bowl.

The "Yeah stats" crowd and "analytics suck" crowd won't understand it, but that doesn't change the reality of it.

 

 

 

 

[Mango]

6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Context matters. But yes getting the Chiefs or anyone else to come to Buffalo should be the goal next year. Can't have Jacksonville games next year.

 

For all the post season hype we had, this is an important one for a lot of reasons. We had too many games this year where things just didn't work out our way. 2020 was the opposite. A lot went right to make that season work. 

 

Less concerned about winning those games to clinch homefield, and more concerned with minimizing those games so that 0:13 doesn't happen again. 

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Weren't ever much for that fancy book learnin', were ya?

 

 

 

Every armchair analyst thinks they found the Da Vinci Code.

[Alphadawg7]

Context people, context.  Its not nearly so cut and dry as looking at the record.  Others have done a great breakdown already, I suggest you all read those posts.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The bills all time in the playoffs have 1 loss at home in this stadium and haven’t won a road playoff game in 30 years. The number 1 seed is very important to us.

[muppy]

well as is my nature this OP brought me to a song lyric. There aint no bandwagon in muppy

 

"life is a highway, Im gonna ride it.........." all night long.

 

#Keepingthefaith

 

my first reaction was **Gasp***

 

m

Edited January 28, 2022 by muppy