Postgame Thread DAMMIT!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

Josh left it all on the field tonight. Minus the crap run, run, run play calls, who knows what he could've done tonight. 

I mean that drive we’re all criticizing we got it down to a 3rd and 1 and kc gave us a good look to run on we just missed a block.  How many times did we punt tonight twice? 

[billsfan714]

The coaching in the last 13 seconds was the equivalent of JPs play against the Jets.   It was that bad.   From the no squib,  to the no jams at the line.    It was the coaching staff finding a way to lose.   Its a friggin shame with what Josh and the offense did.   Cant feel confident with a lead and 13 seconds.   Amazing.

[jlgarsh]

21 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Addison played hurt and produced during the season. I think he even had some sacks. Epenesa stunk and gets zero pressure,along with Rousseau. 

Agree on Epenesa. Rousseau made some plays this year though

[Billz4ever]

To me, this loss was the worst. Worse than wide right worse than music city miracle. 

 

We had this game won. It wasn't down to 1 play where things went sideways.  This loss took a series of mistakes, starting from the decision to kick it deep, to letting receivers running wide open 15 yards downfield. 

 

You really have to try to lose a game like this and amateur hour play calling did exactly that. 

[Bronxbomber21]

I just don't understand how you waste 2 timeouts and come up with the idea to guard against the sidelines instead of guarding the player when the team has timeouts. I just don't under stand. We needed Josh to hold the ball for the final play instead of scoring with 13 seconds left I feel really bad for him. 

[BillsFanSD]

It's going to take me a while to get over this game.  You finally get around to letting your $250 million QB win the game, and he does.  Then your defense pisses it away.

 

Nice job, gentlemen.

[LABILLBACKER]

4 minutes ago, Drifter said:

I feel sick for the offense.  They did everything possible to win and were let down by coaches and defense. 

That's all you can say. As devastated as we all are, I'm so sick over how amazing Josh and Gabe played. And what a coaching and defensive embarrassment (yes Sully) we watched that last 13 seconds.  Pop the damn kick up and force them to burn 4-5 seconds. 

[thebug]

1 minute ago, billsfan714 said:

The coaching in the last 13 seconds was the equivalent of JPs play against the Jets.   It was that bad.   From the no squib,  to the no jams at the line.    It was the coaching staff finding a way to lose.   Its a friggin shame with what Josh and the offense did.   Cant feel confident with a lead and 13 seconds.   Amazing.

Grab Kelce and Hill at the line and drag them to the ground. 5 yard penalty. Do it again. 

[Budkin]

Just now, Bronxbomber21 said:

I just don't understand how you waste 2 timeouts and come up with the idea to guard against the sidelines instead of guarding the player when the team has timeouts. I just don't under stand. We needed Josh to hold the ball for the final play instead of scoring with 13 seconds left I feel really bad for him. 

If you have the TD you take it, no matter how much time is left.

[Richard Noggin]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I mean that drive we’re all criticizing we got it down to a 3rd and 1 and kc gave us a good look to run on we just missed a block.  How many times did we punt tonight twice? 

Are you referencing the 3rd and 2 call to Singletary running left, which was stuffed by Bolton? I swear to effing god it was obvious to me and everyone at my house that Nick effing Bolton was NOT out there to cover Gabriel Davis in the slot, as his alignment seemed to suggest, and that he even twitched towards the LOS before the snap and gave himself away, and yet STILL the play went into his waiting arms. 

[Budkin]

32 minutes ago, klos63 said:

doubtful, I'm still pissed at Norwood.

LMAO so am I and I was 14 when that happened.

[folz]

No shame in this loss. The boys played their hearts out in what, in my opinion, is one of the best (maybe top 3) playoff games I've seen in my 45 years of watching NFL football (Dolphins/Chargers '82; the Comeback). It's one of those games that it is a shame anyone had to lose. I love the meme of "Cancelling the playoffs and having a best of seven series between Buffalo and KC for the Super Bowl."

 

Once each of these teams (Buf/KC) learned to combat the cover/shell defenses this year, Allen's and Mahomes' games both went up a level. These offenses are at historic levels with these two guys. Look at what each of these offenses did down the stretch and in the playoffs. So, you have to realize that both defenses were completely gassed by the fourth quarter. They held each other to 14 points at the half, but by the end of the third quarter, each offense started to impose its will on the opposing, tired defense. Sure I wanted more out of our defense, but Patrick Mahomes and that offense are just special. It's not like we were playing a bunch of scrubs.

 

You can blame the defense, or the coaching, or whatever. But that's how these games go. One more play...by anyone at any time and it goes the other way. It's tough to swallow. If the coin came up tails and we got the ball first in OT, etc., etc.

 

But just think, about six weeks ago many on this board thought the season was over. New England is back and have the lead in the AFC East. This sucks. 

 

Then we got to watch the Bills find their Mojo, rattle off five straight victories, win the AFC East, trash the Patriots in the playoffs with a perfect game, and watch Josh Allen ascend to undoubtable legend in one of the greatest playoff games ever.

 

It's painful now, but let's not forget how fun the ride has been. And it's not over...we have Josh Allen!

 

All year, this has felt like the 1989 season, including now a loss in the divisional round. Big things are still to come...keep the faith! And Go Bills! 

 

"Fight on, my men," says Sir Andrew Barton, 
"I am hurt, but I am not slain; 
I'll lay me down and bleed a while, 
And then I'll rise and fight again.

 

 

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I mean that drive we’re all criticizing we got it down to a 3rd and 1 and kc gave us a good look to run on we just missed a block.  How many times did we punt tonight twice? 

We punted on a 4th and inches, which only changed field position by like 25 yards. Josh wanted to go and McD played it safe. 

[97bills]

This is not I’m done with the bills, but I’ve been a fan in Mississippi for 35 years with no one to talk Bills football so thanks for all the Buffalo news and info on this board, but this was a hard one to swallow I will talk to y’all next draft, really thanks for everything this is all I have to get close to Buffalo. Be safe out there and GO Bills. 

[Turk71]

The defense on that 13 sec drive was absolutely infuriating. The Bills worked so hard for their points and then just concede open field to the Chiefs. 13 seconds. They just had to play defense for a couple plays.  They should have buried him and ended the game emphatically.     Instead they play 30 yards deep and just gift wrap the Chiefs 3 points. Disgusting. Embarrassing lack of courage by the coaches. Josh miraculously pulls off 2 amazing drives under constant pressure, with KC not conceding an inch. Then the coaches just gutlessly give it away to Mahomes. Mahomes is now the hero, the 13 second drive is now legend, and he didn't even have to do anything except throw to wide open guys while under no pressure.

 

What a way to wreck a phenomenal effort and performance. 

[BobChalmers]

30 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Is something wrong with the offense?

 

Yes - their guards are bad.  They also have no elite speed other than their 5th WR McKenzie.

 

Zero 1st round draft picks on offense other than Allen - if it looks like he's doing it all himself out there, it's because he is.  If you want to count Diggs as a 1st since that's what the Bills paid for him, fine - how did he look tonight?  Anything like Hill?  How elite has he been all season, honestly?

 

Meanwhile the roster currently has SIX!!! 1st round picks (not all theirs) on defense.  If they can't get it done it's on the coaches, not the effort from the GM.

[Hughes, Lotoulelei, White, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau]

Edited January 24, 2022 by BobChalmers

[HamptonBillsfan]

1 minute ago, jlgarsh said:

Agree on Epenesa. Rousseau made some plays this year though

You're right , he showed flashes. I'm just out of sorts. We deserved this one.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

We punted on a 4th and inches, which only changed field position by like 25 yards. Josh wanted to go and McD played it safe. 

Oh yea I def would’ve gone for that one. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, Turk71 said:

The defense on that 13 sec drive was absolutely infuriating. The Bills worked so hard for their points and then just concede open field to the Chiefs. 13 seconds. They just had to play defense for a couple plays.  They should have buried him and ended the game emphatically.     Instead they play 30 yards deep and just gift wrap the Chiefs 3 points. Disgusting. Embarrassing lack of courage by the coaches. Josh miraculously pulls off 2 amazing drives under constant pressure, with KC not conceding an inch. Then the coaches just gutlessly give it away to Mahomes. Mahomes is now the hero, the 13 second drive is now legend, and he didn't even have to do anything except throw to wide open guys while under no pressure.

 

What a way to wreck a phenomenal effort and performance. 

it was like they played in no man’s land. Not playing tight, not playing prevent. It was very weird. 

[klos63]

17 minutes ago, klumzyfule66 said:

I don't disagree with squibbing there (I was okay with it at the time, as I figured Tyreek was back there), but if teams usually get there quicker and tackle before the 25 yard line, then why doesn't every team do that every kick off?

Probably because touchbacks are easy and safe. We've done it before, it's a situational decision.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

13 seconds.

 

It’s gotta be on the Buffalo Sports Heartbreak Mt Rushmore along w/ Wide Right, Music City Miracle, & No Goal.

[newcam2012]

Do it right at the line of scrimmage right when the ball is snapped. Just tackle them. 

[Warcodered]

 

I really don't understand that decision.

[Billsatlastin2018]

18 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

I'm talking about tonights game.  Epenesa made at least a couple of plays.  Addison did nothing.  Addison made a few plays over the course of the season you're right but he hardly played up to his contract and I'm not sure one of the rookies couldn't have totaled 6 sacks if they had played as many snaps as Addison.

Good God man!

 

They were trash... unmitigated TRASH, in the biggest game of their lives!

 

NOT STOPPING SOMEONE 80 YARDS AWAY WITH 13 SECONDS LEFT IS THE WORST PERFORMANCE IN NFL HISTORY!

 

Not even counting the rest of their F performance!

[Last Guy on the Bench]

8 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Mahomes has the advantage of Reid as his HC.  They do not waste whole series trying to be a genius.  They go after your weaknesses.  Sound familiar?  Dabol has glaringly bad play calls.  Bills took too long to exploit the beat up secondary of KC.  

Do you know how many years people crapped on Reid for never being able to win big games?! Coaching, like anything else, is a developmental process. Plus you need the players. Plus you need to get a little lucky. I swear that Pittsburgh is the only team in the league with its head on straight in terms of letting coaches stick around long enough to develop and to give the organization some coherence.

 

I wasn't a McD fan when he was hired. But he has done a great job building an organization that is geared toward long-term competitiveness. And he continues to grow as a coach. He'll get a little better each year if he's given time.

 

These knee jerk responses are predictable, but ridiculous.

[Doc Brown]

15 minutes ago, Magox said:

The Bills will win a Super Bowl or two, it could have been this year.  Two great teams, arguably the two best slugged it out and we literally lost on a coin flip.  Bills will be back 

I appreciate the glass half full take but it shouldn’t have come down to a coin toss.  Any defense with a damn doesn’t allow 56 yards in 13 seconds no matter how good the opposing offense is.

[BillMafia716ix]

This is a real bad loss. Heartbreaking to the point where I don’t see how we recover from this. This was our best chance to win the Super Bowl. No Brady, No Rodgers, having Mahomes down late in the 4th and we still didn’t get it done.

 

This is a real gut punch. 

[klos63]

14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

You know, if we hit that perfect kick then yeah. Could Bass had done that? I don't know. How about we just not let them gain 50 yards on 2 plays next time.

if we kick short and run some clock, they likely only have 1 play before desperation pass.

[SoCal Deek]

Question 

Why not purposely hold their receivers? The worse that happens is a five yard penalty but the play clock runs. Do that twice and it’s Hail Mary time….game over

[buffalo2218]

5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

That's all you can say. As devastated as we all are, I'm so sick over how amazing Josh and Gabe played. And what a coaching and defensive embarrassment (yes Sully) we watched that last 13 seconds.  Pop the damn kick up and force them to burn 4-5 seconds. 

Well, I thought about that myself, but couldn't the Chiefs have either called a fair catch or downed it?

[Turk71]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Do it right at the line of scrimmage right when the ball is snapped. Just tackle them. 

Yep

They literally could've tackled every receiver for a couple plays and taken 5 yard penalties

[Billsatlastin2018]

5 minutes ago, thebug said:

Grab Kelce and Hill at the line and drag them to the ground. 5 yard penalty. Do it again. 

OF COURSE!

 

What I said an hour ago.

 

AND, the Clapper called TOs... for what, if not to tell EVERY player to do that!

[klos63]

1 minute ago, buffalo2218 said:

Well, I thought about that myself, but couldn't the Chiefs have either called a fair catch or downed it?

Let them fair catch at the 10.

[Maine-iac]

Just now, buffalo2218 said:

Well, I thought about that myself, but couldn't the Chiefs have either called a fair catch or downed it?

If you kick it deep but not into the end zone they're not going to take a knee because they'd be starting on their own 15 yard line.

[billsfan714]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

I really don't understand that decision.

I dont understand how any casual fan knows to cover Kelce and Hill and your coaches dont, just let them run free in the final 13 seconds.....here, tie it up please.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

 

Honestly he's right, people are going to say Mahomes got the win and drove down just like Josh, but what I remember is Mahomes WR/TEs being wide open. Josh made some ***** crazy throws tonight.

Agree. Lots if blaming going around but in the end Mahomes made the plays just like Allen did to miraclessly bring us back from the dead. Bills shouldn't have scored 2x to go ahead and Mahomes shouldn't have gotten them fg range in 13 seconds.  It cuts both ways. 

Edited January 24, 2022 by newcam2012

[Bob in STL]

3 hours ago, klos63 said:

Short kickoff knocks off 5 seconds, KC gets one play then a hail mary. What was McDermott thinking?

Agree on the kickoff.  
 

I think they were looking for a Hail Mary on second down with 8 seconds left.  Kelsey gets an uncontested 25 yards and their kicker hits from 49.  
 

Terrible defensive is strategy.   

Edited January 24, 2022 by Bob in STL

[biggerdaddynj]

Just saw Josh and Gabriel Davis on a postgame interview the Bills run live on their site—and seeing the faces and body language of those two young men was heartbreaking.  They were extremely classy and professional.  My heart goes out to them.

Edited January 24, 2022 by biggerdaddynj

[HalftimeAdjustment]

We shouldn't have had a drive earlier than went run run run punt.

[ndirish1978]

This D was not a #1 D, it was a decent D that played some good games against some bad teams. We need a more effective pass rush and we really needed Tre White tonight. We couldn't stop a wet fart tonight, very poor tackling. The offense was all we could ask for. The second honeybadger went out of the game we should have pressed the advantage passing more though.