Divisional Round: Buffalo at KC Sunday at 6:30

[starrymessenger]

43 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

KC going off on an inferior opponent in Pittsburgh isn't news. Let's see how they do against the #1 defense. Their defense is going to try to bring heat and pressure Josh. It's not going to work. Buffalo has everyone healthy on the OL and in case no one has noticed, Tommy Doyle is now the blocking TE. That's right. An extra OT is blocking for Josh and Singletary. What Buffalo did to a top 5 defense last week was amazing. What do you think they are going to do to this poser KC Defense? This game should result in about the same outcome as the regular season game. A Buffalo win. KC can open up their bag of tricks on offense if they want. In fact, please do....

I agree. I see Bills overall as favoured to win. in looking at the Chiefs recent outings, Steelers were clearly a weak hand and an easy out, the Chargers would have beaten them if their coach wasn’t a bonehead, they barely beat a Drew Lock led Broncos team, and Joe Burrow (with a big assist from J. Chase) completely carved up their secondary. If their front can pressure Allen and force him out of the pocket the game could be competitive but our o-line has started to gel. Not only has Allen had more time in pass pro but the run blocking has improved with a scheme better suited to skill sets and with Singletary functioning effectively as the lead back. KC will now have to defend against the run and that should also translate into more time for Allen especially on early downs. Give Allen time in the pocket and he will destroy any D with his arm. 
But even if Reed, Jones, Ingram, Clark overmatch our O-line and force Allen out of the pocket, KC still needs to contend with #17s escapability, his ability to improvise in the passing game or rip off big yardage as a runner. 
We won’t shut down Pat Mahomes, but I think we outscore them.

[Scott7975]

5 hours ago, Steptide said:

Didn't they blow it badly against the Bengals in week 17 also? 

yes

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Sharky7337]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Reid and McDermott could not be any more different with their health and fitness. I remember during the draft footage the Bills put out from last year and Kim Pegula made cookies and the whole staff was eating them in the war room and McDermott was eating Raisin Bran.

 

 

He was gonna make a reference to only having one drink when your out and about, but then his son's legal team stopped him. 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Sharky7337

[BassToMouth]

28 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I just rewatched the week 5 Chiefs game, and I forgot how hard the refs tried to keep it close when it got out of hand. Oliver roughing the passer to extend a drive (technically a penalty, but inconsistently called), Kelce pulling Tre White into himself to draw DPI to extend a drive, Mitch Morse completely phantom holding call.

 

The refs in general made that game hard to watch. It was a flag fest.

What’s worse is that we have Hussey. His crew barely calls defensive holding and pass interference. This is a majorly bad draw unless the Bills do the same to them and it’s called/allowed evenly 

[atlbillsfan1975]

5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

That suits KC more than us - Spagnola likes his CBs to play handsy, it worked out for the Chiefs in last years’ matchups.  Bills need to figure out ways to get our receivers free releases off the line.  Chiefs will try to play press-and-pressure, disrupt Allen’s timing while wrecking his pocket.  Gotta be ready to counter that.

 

Agree with this but is the inverse true?  If they can generate pressure with their front four and press/mug the Bills’ receivers, do the odds tilt 70/30 their way?

Also remember the Bills receivers were banged up last year. Cole had a broken leg, Diggs had an injury. The Bills having all 5 receivers healthy should help them get away from handsy corners. Not to mention if the oline can give Josh 3-4 seconds, it also will help negate PI. 

[sven233]

It's crazy how different both these teams are since we met early in the season.  They have transformed their defensive line and put guys in better spots to succeed.  Their offense has been coming around as well.  On our side, our offensive line is night and day better.  We have totally overhauled our run game and are running the pin and pull game with our big athletic line which plays to our guy's strengths.  Pre-snap motion and the eye candy we have been waiting for are back and all of this has changed the way we work on that side of the ball.  Unfortunately, maybe the biggest issue we are going to have this time around is not having Tre out there to cover Hill. 

 

All this said, I am not sure how much the first meeting means at this point.  I think ultimately this game comes down to our defense and how they hold up.  I do think if we play well on offense, we'll score, but it comes down to how much we need.  If our defense plays their best game I think we can win.  If it turns into a shootout, it's going to be tough.  Really wish this game was at home.  I just hope our staff has learned their lesson and stays aggressive the entire game.  Go for it when the situation calls for it and keep the hammer down.  We can't score too many points in this game.

[balln]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

Wilbon (PTI) completely dumping on Josh Allen. 
 

“Just because he was great two days ago doesn’t mean he’ll be great next week”

 

”Now Josh Allen and the Bills are so great, ehhh, let’s not overreact”

 

It blows my mind, Allen has the weirdest dudes who won’t recognize how good he is.  

Meanwhile, other guys like Chris Simms wonder if Josh Allen is THE best player in the NFL.  

 

The polarization is crazy.  What it tells me is he needs to dethrone Mahomes to win over the last of the detractors. 
 

wilbon and some of the african american guys at espn (foxworth, keyshawn, and another guy cant remember ) still have it out for him for the racist tweets at draft day.

 

100%

[YoloinOhio]

 

[zow2]

You can see in these games this weekend, the road teams get behind and it’s like a snowball going downhill against them. Crowd noise, turnovers, refs, etc..  Only San Fran came through. 

Bills gotta dictate from the opening snap as best they can. 

[longtimebillsfan]

1 hour ago, Mark Vader said:

Reporters are asking questions about something that happened nearly 5 years ago?

 

Move on!

What about Teller???

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

McDermott with that question:

which one?

 

His name is Patrick no “Pat” 

 

😆 😝 

[Joe Ferguson]

 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, balln said:

wilbon and some of the african american guys at espn (foxworth, keyshawn, and another guy cant remember ) still have it out for him for the racist tweets at draft day.

 

100%

You’re referring to Bomani Jones. Foxworth has come around on Allen 

[Joe Ferguson]

 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

What about Singletary? I’m gonna call this game “the rebuilt Motor” game. He dropped that screen pass in the championship game that I feel changed the momentum. He will have a big game and redeem himself 

[Wyobills89]

Dang nice graphic Solomon grundy. Over 800 yards between Devin and Josh. Just nice to finally see a complete game this year. Idk if they were sleep walking through the year or if Mcd finally got through to dabs or if players are just finally stepping up and executing but we are a different team since week 13. 

This is going to be a heavy weight battle! Can't wait to watch this one.

[harryS]

7 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

Most see next Sunday night as pretty much a 50-50 proposition. For sure it’s the biggest matchup of the playoffs so far and a treat for all football fans. To me it could well boil down to how well the Chiefs D-line is able to play, Frank Clark, Jarron Reed, and esp Chris Jones. If they are unable to bring big pressure on Allen the percentages swing big time 70-30 in Bills favour. 

 

I think the Bills o-line will continue their stellar play, Josh will have time, and we'll score 30+.  

 

BUT, unlike you, I'd still have it as 50/50 because unfortunately I think the Chiefs will be the first team to really expose our depleted cornerback situation.

 

We have to win a shootout.  I like our chances, but it's gonna be close.

 

6 hours ago, TH3 said:

Wilbon has a problem with good white guys

 

You're on the right track as there is a racial element.  It's more that he's protecting his boy Mahomes, and he doesn't want to see any young white QB get more praise than Mahomes.

[LeGOATski]

The refs/penalties narrative this week is as false as the cold weather narrative was last week.

 

The Bills know what happened last year and have prepared. Remember how physical Bills CBs were being in training camp and preseason? Remember the first Chiefs game?

 

Just another false narrative we'll have to hear all week from fans. Without a doubt there will be something new to complain about after Sunday.

[NickelCity]

23 minutes ago, harryS said:

 

I think the Bills o-line will continue their stellar play, Josh will have time, and we'll score 30+.  

 

BUT, unlike you, I'd still have it as 50/50 because unfortunately I think the Chiefs will be the first team to really expose our depleted cornerback situation.

 

We have to win a shootout.  I like our chances, but it's gonna be close.

 

This is my prediction as well.

[billsbackto81]

4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

The refs/penalties narrative this week is as false as the cold weather narrative was last week.

 

The Bills know what happened last year and have prepared. Remember how physical Bills CBs were being in training camp and preseason? Remember the first Chiefs game?

 

Just another false narrative we'll have to hear all week from fans. Without a doubt there will be something new to complain about after Sunday.

Perhaps.

 

But if KC's D starts to get physical and grabby and the refs allow it hopefully the Buffalo defense follows suit. 

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, billsbackto81 said:

Perhaps.

 

But if KC's D starts to get physical and grabby and the refs allow it hopefully the Buffalo defense follows suit. 

There's no "hopefully." That's what I'm saying. It's happening or it's not and the Bills are prepared this time.

[Big Turk]

Bills better be ready with some dance moves once they score...

 

Kelce just hit people with the Dougie last week...someone needs to start practicing...maybe answer back with the Griddy or something. Team choreographed Macarena?

 

 

 

[MiltonWaddams]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Bills better be ready with some dance moves once they score...

 

Kelce just hit people with the Dougie last week...someone needs to start practicing...maybe answer back with the Griddy or something. Team choreographed Macarena?

 

 

 

Screw that. Act like they’ve been there.

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

What about Teller???

?

[Old Coot]

This will be a battle of the offensive lines.  Whichever line plays better wins the game.  I hope that's the Bills' line.  I was struck by how well our line protected the QB and run blocked cmpared to the Cards OL tonight.

 

Give Allen or Mahomes a clean pocket and they'll shred any D.  Conversely, pressure on either and they play like mere mortals.

[Scott7975]

6 hours ago, Warcodered said:

McDermott with that question:

 

They asked that question before like a year or two ago and he gave the same exact answer.

[longtimebillsfan]

19 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

?

Sarcasm !@#!&?

[Mark Vader]

3 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Sarcasm !@#!&?

Thanks

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, harryS said:

 

I think the Bills o-line will continue their stellar play, Josh will have time, and we'll score 30+.  

 

BUT, unlike you, I'd still have it as 50/50 because unfortunately I think the Chiefs will be the first team to really expose our depleted cornerback situation.

 

We have to win a shootout.  I like our chances, but it's gonna be close.

 

 

You're on the right track as there is a racial element.  It's more that he's protecting his boy Mahomes, and he doesn't want to see any young white QB get more praise than Mahomes.

This entire defensive line rotation we’ve been rolling with was literally only implemented to slow down mahomes enough to win this game.  I think we’re taking this one too.  Put us at a bit of a disadvantage against power run teams as we have speed and not that much size but we are built to win this one. 

4 hours ago, BassToMouth said:

What’s worse is that we have Hussey. His crew barely calls defensive holding and pass interference. This is a majorly bad draw unless the Bills do the same to them and it’s called/allowed evenly 

That’s what happened in the regular season matchup…they were holding our guys and we were holding Kelce lol I think even if they try to jam us in tight man coverage this game they’re still gonna struggle because our receivers are much healthier this season compared to the afc championship game.  Beasley Davis and diggs were all playing with significant injuries last year. 

[Bangarang]

3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

 

It’s worth mentioning that I don’t think it’s Hussey’s usual crew for the playoffs. 

[bargepole]

I'd agree with those who say that Jodh Allen is the best QB in the NFL. But on the other side, Travis Kelce is arguably the best TE.

 

However, in a tight game like this, it's not just down to how well the respective Offences and Defences play.

 

The deciding factor could well be Special Teams - kick-offs and returns, punts and returns, executing an onside kick if required, and slotting long range FGs.

 

Then there is the unknown factor - if 4th down an 2 comes up, will they play conservatively, or will they go for it? Will there be any trick plays that haven't been seen in the regular season? All of this makes it a fascinating prospect for late night Sunday viewing.

[CSBill]

1 hour ago, bargepole said:

The deciding factor could well be Special Teams - kick-offs and returns, punts and returns, executing an onside kick if required, and slotting long range FGs.

 

Then there is the unknown factor - if 4th down an 2 comes up, will they play conservatively, or will they go for it? Will there be any trick plays that haven't been seen in the regular season? All of this makes it a fascinating prospect for late night Sunday viewing.

 

Up until last week, I was not really worried about our Special Teams, as a matter of fact, I thought is was a strength of the team. Now, I'm not so sure--it has been a rough two weeks for them. I hope all that is out of their system now.

 

And to your question about 4th down, NO more conservative play, no question they will go for it! This teams lives and dies on Josh Allen, put the ball and the game in the hands of your best player.

 

The place I have a genuine concern about, and I think this will go a long way in determining the game's outcome, is our cornerbacks. The Chiefs' receiving core puts pressure on the best D-backs. Our guys have played well since Tre's injury, but they have not played anything close to the quality of what they will be up against on Sunday; this will be the first real test. Will they hold up? The one thing they do have is two of the best Safeties in the league to help cover up for other deficiencies. Hyde and Poyer will need to be at their best.

[Billsfansinceday1]

15 hours ago, Dukestreetking said:

 

X factor: bring in Marv pre-game for some Churchillian D-Day speech that will set the troops afire. Like:

 

God almighty, in a few short hours we will be in battle with the enemy. We do not join battle afraid. We do not ask favours or indulgence but ask that, if you will, use us as your instrument for the right...

-- Wolverton, CO, 1/506 PIR

we shall fight in the field and trenches,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our end zone, whatever the cost may be,
we shall score in the red zone,
we shall fight for contested balls,
we shall triumph on the field,
we shall fight on third downs;
we shall never surrender,

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Billsfansinceday1

[K-9]

4 minutes ago, Billsfansinceday1 said:

we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender,

 

[harryS]

4 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

This entire defensive line rotation we’ve been rolling with was literally only implemented to slow down mahomes enough to win this game.  I think we’re taking this one too.  Put us at a bit of a disadvantage against power run teams as we have speed and not that much size but we are built to win this one. 

 

 

Many teams ran all over us last season, too (including the Chiefs in the regular season game), so I don't know if the changes are that dramatic.  I just think generally we like light boxes and more coverage so opposing teams will sometimes have success running, and that was true before this season.  Also, the defensive ends have been whipping boys for the fanbase all season, so they're not going to inspire confidence now as the Mahomes solution.  And while I like our DTs, the Chiefs have a very strong interior of the OL.  "We're built to beat the Chiefs" has become a battle cry that I'm not sure is deserved (especially with Tre White out), other than we have a QB that might win a shootout against them.

[JMF2006]

13 hours ago, SCBills said:

Wilbon (PTI) completely dumping on Josh Allen. 
 

“Just because he was great two days ago doesn’t mean he’ll be great next week”

 

”Now Josh Allen and the Bills are so great, ehhh, let’s not overreact”

 

It blows my mind, Allen has the weirdest dudes who won’t recognize how good he is.  

Meanwhile, other guys like Chris Simms wonder if Josh Allen is THE best player in the NFL.  

 

The polarization is crazy.  What it tells me is he needs to dethrone Mahomes to win over the last of the detractors. 
 

 

He was just parroting that other jackazz Smith who tweeted an up and down graph and said "nothing to fear KC fans" JA has never strung together 2 in a row like that one.

 

I really don't want a track meet another blow out would be fine with me  

[bargepole]

This might be the last time that the Bills play the KC Chiefs. They are under pressure to drop the name 'Chiefs' as it is considered insulting to Native American groups.

 

One of the leading professional rugby teams in England is the Exeter Chiefs, who use a headdress image as their logo, and various other native symbols. Following complaints from various Native American groups, they are set to drop all that at the end of the current season, and rebrand the franchise for 2022/23.

[Zerovoltz]

Coming off of 30+ point differential playoff HOME wins, teams that follow that up with a road playoff game are just 2-7.  

[Zerovoltz]

1 minute ago, bargepole said:

This might be the last time that the Bills play the KC Chiefs. They are under pressure to drop the name 'Chiefs' as it is considered insulting to Native American groups.

 

One of the leading professional rugby teams in England is the Exeter Chiefs, who use a headdress image as their logo, and various other native symbols. Following complaints from various Native American groups, they are set to drop all that at the end of the current season, and rebrand the franchise for 2022/23.

 

While there has been some noise about this...the Chiefs are not remotely close to changing the name.  The term Chief isn't considered disparaging.  Some may find the tomahawk chop etc offensive however.

 

Let's assume KC kept the name "Chiefs" and put a firemans helmet as the logo....would that be disparaging?  If the crowd made siren noises, would that be degrading to firemen?  Should we make mascots of first responders?  ...

 

Anyhow...this won't be the last time the Bills and "CHIEFS" meet up.