Why so many tickets left?

[ALLEN1QB]

Paying that much for a stadium and not having a roof is totally insane

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

The fans want a dome if they don't have to pay for it. I'm sure the Pegulas would say the same.

 

And by the way, I want a date with Halle Berry and Emma Watson.

 

You'll never know if you have a chance with them if you don't ask.  I suggest you send them a Tweet 100 times a day each...that'll grab their attention.  Girls like that...persistence.  

[LeGOATski]

Domers are a bunch of idiots.

 

Also, don't forget about what the Canadians are going through. A bunch of them are missing out due to travel restrictions and whatnot.

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

Because attendance is very important in a small market city. The League looks very closely at season attendance numbers

 

Just saying

No doubt….so if that’s the issue….fix it! Build a new stadium where attendance will NOT go down in the winter weeks. I’ll let you decide what kind of stadium would fix the ‘problem’.

[LeGOATski]

 

Also, it seems like a good time to remind people that the new stadium will have less capacity. This will be a sell-out in the new stadium with it's 62,000 seats or whatever.

 

Does that help?

 

Also, did I mention that domers are all idiots? 😁

[SWATeam]

2 hours ago, Conlan58 said:

The biggest argument I have for a dome is that it becomes a place that can be used year round. Think RV shows, concerts, expos, other sports, etc. Heck, maybe even someday hosting the Combine. I'm not going to lie - I would be there if it wasn't going to be as cold as it is. If it were a dome, I would be bringing my whole family, but I have two young boys and there is no way I'd do that to them with the current situation. 

And you'd probably have to take out a mortgage to do so.

[MJS]

2 hours ago, Rampage said:

The dome talk is nonsense. Imagine them sticking a dome over Lambeau? It’s embarrassing. These south and dome teams come up to Buffalo and don’t know what hit them. It’s removing an unmatched advantage.

It's only an advantage if you have the worse team, because the weather is a great equalizer.

 

Right now, the Bills are really good and the weather brings them down closer to their competition. In the future, though, maybe the Bills won't be as good and it will help them pull off some upsets.

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

It's only an advantage if you have the worse team, because the weather is a great equalizer.

 

Right now, the Bills are really good and the weather brings them down closer to their competition. In the future, though, maybe the Bills won't be as good and it will help them pull off some upsets.

So when the Bills are good, they're gonna win more of the time anyway. And when they're bad, they'll have a better chance to win.

 

Sounds very pro-open air.

[That's No Moon]

The same way they can scream for "law and order" then proceed to do whatever they feel like in their own world 

[AlfaBill]

8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Its pretty packed lol

Also it’s the biggest(or one of) in the league. Amazing that a town like Buffalo can fill or almost fill 80,000 seats. 

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, Returntoglory said:

Don't forget the season ticket holders who sell their seats. 

There are many season ticket owners who are 55+ who just don't want to deal with the crappy weather.

There are also a ton of people that use season tickets as an “investment” and those folks want a dome to enhance the value of their investment.  

[Billsatlastin2018]

Bills fans from WNY expect to pay Ticket prices from the Glory Years- the 90s! They have expressed that view, as well as the ‘embarrassment factor’ of a non filled Stadium, on these boards- for decades!

 

You want a nice, shiny new play thing, with all the bells and whistles?

YOU PAY!

Like $200 minimum for a Regular Season game, plus, plus! 
 

You can’t have both!

 

Big City Pro Sports stadiums mean Big City prices!

 

[WotAGuy]

I also think the stadium designers will be creating climate-controlled spaces to allow people to warm up and watch the game in relative comfort during winter. 

[bigK14094]

3 hours ago, Rampage said:

The dome talk is nonsense. Imagine them sticking a dome over Lambeau? It’s embarrassing. These south and dome teams come up to Buffalo and don’t know what hit them. It’s removing an unmatched advantage.

Its only an advantage if the team practices outside.  Not sure that is happening very much.

[Einstein]

8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Its pretty packed lol

 

Wow. Some people can’t admit they’re wrong even when faced with indisputable evidence.

 

That is no where near packed.

 

The game was going to be blacked out (yes, a playoff game, blacked out).

 

The NFL had to give the Bills 2 extensions past the usual cutoff in order to find six different companies in the area that would purchase several thousand seats in order to lift the blackout.

 

In the end, 18,101 seats were empty. Thats nearly 25% of the stadium - empty.  

 

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

Also it’s the biggest(or one of) in the league. Amazing that a town like Buffalo can fill or almost fill 80,000 seats. 

 

It was not almost filled. There were over 18,000 empty seats and that was even AFTER companies bought several thousand seafs.

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, Conlan58 said:

Wait a second... is this a dome thread? 

 

I realize that many people mock dome threads - myself included - but I generally like the discussion that ensues.

 

I hope the mods don’t start locking them all. They’re a good time.

[Albany,n.y.]

I got an e-mail from a local bus company that they had 7 seats in the 300s left at half price: $99.50.  If the weather was warmer & there wasn't 10+ hour round trip in a packed bus with Omicron running rampant, I might have considered it.  Instead, I'm staying home in my warm living room with no possible exposure to Omicron.  .  

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, wiseman3 said:

No. Absolutely not lol. Tickets are moving. There were over 5,000 on Stubhub two days ago. This morning there are 2,800. It will be pretty much full. 

 

StubHub is only a tiny fraction of the market.

 

Look on the #1 ticket site - TicketMaster…

 

[nucci]

21 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Bills fans from WNY expect to pay Ticket prices from the Glory Years- the 90s! They have expressed that view, as well as the ‘embarrassment factor’ of a non filled Stadium, on these boards- for decades!

 

You want a nice, shiny new play thing, with all the bells and whistles?

YOU PAY!

Like $200 minimum for a Regular Season game, plus, plus! 
 

You can’t have both!

 

Big City Pro Sports stadiums mean Big City prices!

 

why do we need bells and whistles....

[MJS]

28 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

So when the Bills are good, they're gonna win more of the time anyway. And when they're bad, they'll have a better chance to win.

 

Sounds very pro-open air.

I'm not against open-air. I don't have a strong opinion either way, honestly.

 

I live on the other side of the country so I don't get to go to games anyway, except very rarely.

 

I do think if we never see the Bills playing in the snow again it would be a sad thing.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, Trogdor said:

I believe the GoFundMe is called taxes, couldn't find the link though. 

Found it:  https://www.tax.ny.gov/

 

What I was getting at is (I think) there is a limit to what NYS/County is willing to kick in which is probably not how much the Pegula's prefer/want to begin with.  So the additional cost from the dome is not coming from Pegula or taxes.   But maybe if we had a gofundme or a random rich fan wants to kick in the extra money we can have the dome.  This is sarcasm....its not gonna happen.  There are no amounts of RV shows and concerts that provides a reasonable payback.  Most of the money from those things does not go to the state or facility.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

3 hours ago, Rampage said:

The dome talk is nonsense. Imagine them sticking a dome over Lambeau? It’s embarrassing. These south and dome teams come up to Buffalo and don’t know what hit them. It’s removing an unmatched advantage.

 

That Lambeau advantage has gotten the Packers to one super bowl over the last 11 seasons with the best QB in the game. They were just bounced last year in late January at Lambeau by a Florida team with a 43 year old QB who probably has decreased blood flow. 

 

I could go either way on the dome thing. I do think a dome can still be a heavy advantage for the Bills. Places like Minnesota and New Orleans get LOUD. And I see Bills Maria being no different. The weather advantage wouldn't be there but the noise advantage would go up. 

[Chandler#81]

3 hours ago, stevestojan said:

We need a dome. 
 

We're not a rough and tumble "blue collar" rah rah bull#### team. We're FINALLY a team with a all-pro QB. What is the advantage to making him play in weather that's considered torture by the Geneva convention? Silly Buffalo pride? 
 

If we were in a dome tomorrow, I’d take Buffalo -10 in a heartbeat. With the temps being forecast? I have no idea who wins the game but I’m far less confident. 
 

The ball will be a rock and as we saw last time, that means the receivers have trouble catching the ball. 
 

I’m actually in town right now and there’s no WAY I would go sit in that mess. Call me a literal fair-weather fan, or that I’m not “tough enough” or not a real fan, but there’s nothing enjoyable about sitting outside for a minute; much less all day and then 4 hours for a game, when it’s 5 degrees out. 

This X 1,000,000!

[ArtVandalay]

Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the Bills are the only playoff team to require proof of vaccination to enter? (Or at least with a home game,  Raiders require I think)

 

This is going to have a large impact especially with a bunch of "fans" not attending because it is too cold. 

 

You hack off a bunch of your fan base, you get what you deserve. 

Edited January 14, 2022 by ArtVandalay

[Chandler#81]

Why so many tickets left? Gee, lemme think…🤔

 

🥶

[AlfaBill]

28 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Wow. Some people can’t admit they’re wrong even when faced with indisputable evidence.

 

That is no where near packed.

 

The game was going to be blacked out (yes, a playoff game, blacked out).

 

The NFL had to give the Bills 2 extensions past the usual cutoff in order to find six different companies in the area that would purchase several thousand seats in order to lift the blackout.

 

In the end, 18,101 seats were empty. Thats nearly 25% of the stadium - empty.  

 

 

 

 

 

It was not almost filled. There were over 18,000 empty seats and that was even AFTER companies bought several thousand seafs.

Maybe. But that picture looks like a packed house. 

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the Bills are the only playoff team to require proof of vaccination to enter? (Or at least with a home game,  Raiders require I think)

 

This is going to have a large impact especially with a bunch of "fans" not attending because it is too cold. 

 

You hack off a bunch of your fan base, you get what you deserve. 

 

Are you effin' kidding me?

[Jrb1979]

8 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the Bills are the only playoff team to require proof of vaccination to enter? (Or at least with a home game,  Raiders require I think)

 

This is going to have a large impact especially with a bunch of "fans" not attending because it is too cold. 

 

You hack off a bunch of your fan base, you get what you deserve. 

There was no issue with the vaccine requirements all season til now. Maybe season ticket holders should actually go to the game instead of reselling them to make a quick buck. IMO if I were the Bills I would ban the reselling of playoff tickets. 

[ToGoGo]

2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

The fans want a dome if they don't have to pay for it. I'm sure the Pegulas would say the same.

 

And by the way, I want a date with Halle Berry and Emma Watson.

 

The public is paying for it whether they want it or not. Dome means Pegulas would have to foot more of the bill. Very naive. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

Is there a possibility we don’t sell out? That would be so embarrassing.

[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

Is there a possibility we don’t sell out? That would be so embarrassing.

YES.  Not the first time that will happen either.

 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, noacls said:

What did Tasker say?

Yesterday on OBL, Tasker said people wouldn’t want to party outside anymore because they can party inside under a dome. He said tailgating would be dead. Lost me with the comment. You can’t toss a football in a dome. You can’t have mustard and ketchup squirting in a dome. I’m a proponent for a dome downtown and guarantee (Barkley voice) that I’ll find somewhere to tailgate outside of the dome

[LabattBlue]

Playoffs will always be in January & February when WNY weather is at its worse.  You have your $40 million dollar QB for the next 10-12 years, and you are minimizing his skill set by letting the weather come into play.  
 

Not building a fixed roof stadium is beyond idiotic. 

Edited January 14, 2022 by BTB

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

There was no issue with the vaccine requirements all season til now. Maybe season ticket holders should actually go to the game instead of reselling them to make a quick buck. IMO if I were the Bills I would ban the reselling of playoff tickets. 

They sold out tickets pretty easily all year, overcoming the Canadian border issue, even with the bad weather.  

 

However, when you lose a chunk of the attendance to the Canadian border issue AND now bad weather, well this is when the vaccine requirement starts to become a problem in terms of attendance.   
 

The resale market is severely limited.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

In 2-3 seasons they will be asking the same about NE regular season games 

[muppy]

2 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

I assume as game time gets near people will lower the price and people who usually wouldn't be able to go (younger fans) will buy them and couldn't care less about the cold.

bingo Concur.  There is very small chance that highmark is not fully sold out by game time. Locals MOUNT UP fleece some scalper while yer at it.

 

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[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, BTB said:

Playoffs will always be in January & February when WNY weather is at its worse.  You have your $40 million dollar QB for the next 10-12 years, and you are minimizing his skill set by letting he weather come into play.  
 

Not building a fixed roof stadium is beyond idiotic. 

You are premising your entire argument on the assumption that the primary objective of the franchise is to win games and championships.

 

What if it's to maximize profit?

 

There's the rub.

 

You think Pegula wants to spend $1 billion out of his own pocket to build a f-ing football stadium in Orchard Park, NY?

 

And that assumes the state will throw in another $500 million on top of it.

 

Domes are expensive.

 

 

[muppy]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

They sold out tickets pretty easily all year, overcoming the Canadian border issue, even with the bad weather.  

 

However, when you lose a chunk of the attendance to the Canadian border issue AND now bad weather, well this is when the vaccine requirement starts to become a problem in terms of attendance.   
 

The resale market is severely limited.  

dangit you have a really good point. Thanks that's a very valid take.

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

You are premising your entire argument on the assumption that the primary objective of the franchise is to win games and championships.

 

What if it's to maximize profit?

 

There's the rub.

 

You think Pegula wants to spend $1 billion out of his own pocket to build a f-ing football stadium in Orchard Park, NY?

 

And that assumes the state will throw in another $500 million on top of it.

 

Domes are expensive.

 

 

I have news for you…IMO the bulk of the new stadium money is coming from Joe Taxpayer…not Mr and Mrs Moneybags…and nowhere is it set in stone that the cost of a roof adds $500 mil to the cost. 

[wiseman3]

14 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

Is there a possibility we don’t sell out? That would be so embarrassing.

No. There were less than 500 tickets left to be officially sold from the Bills at the beginning of the week. Most of everything online now is resale. Selling out isnt the issue, its how many of those resellers will show up if their tickets don't sell. It will still be a great crowd