Shaq Lawson possibly returning to Buffalo

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, ganesh said:

They didnt fly Morse to KC for his child’s birth ? 

I honestly don’t know. They could have not sure. 

[MJS]

7 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Obviously they are planning for a better scenario.

 

My point is that if this team is one and done (which I still think is a stronger possibility that some fans want to admit) than yes it's pointless to bring Lawson back to buffalo and not sure he would realistically be ready to play on Saturday after spending a few days with the team.

Did you wake up one morning and decide that you wanted to be the most insufferable Bills fan on the planet?

 

By the way, I agree with you on Lawson. I don't think he is good enough to be on our team. If they want to sign him to the practice squad for insurance, fine. By all means.

 

But the constant doom and gloom, crying about Allen's contract, crying about possibly being one and done in the playoffs, constantly talking down the best team we have had in decades... it sucks to read your posts, dude.

 

Can we have a break if the Bills win this Saturday? Can you agree to not crap all over the Bills and everything they do for a few days?

[Boatdrinks]

5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Did you wake up one morning and decide that you wanted to be the most insufferable Bills fan on the planet?

 

By the way, I agree with you on Lawson. I don't think he is good enough to be on our team. If they want to sign him to the practice squad for insurance, fine. By all means.

 

But the constant doom and gloom, crying about Allen's contract, crying about possibly being one and done in the playoffs, constantly talking down the best team we have had in decades... it sucks to read your posts, dude.

 

Can we have a break if the Bills win this Saturday? Can you agree to not crap all over the Bills and everything they do for a few days?

I think he may just be a troll, but I couldn’t agree more. 

[MJS]

9 hours ago, FireChans said:

It is unfair to lump Jordan Phillips in with Shaq.  Shaq may have mailed it in until his last year, but JP played on TWO prove it deals with the Bills, and produced a TON in his last year here. Shaq had a solid season but JP had 9.5 sacks. He then went to Arizona with a completely different defensive role and has battled injury since. Shaq has been traded 2x and cut. 

I would have rather had Lawson back than Phillips, honestly. Lawson at least played within the system. Phillips left his gap responsibilities to go chase the QB. He was a real liability for the defense. He did one thing and only one thing, and that was rush the QB, to the detriment of everything else. He got his sacks and a big contract, which is what he wanted.

 

He came on One Bills Live one time and Tasker asked him to explain to the audience the difference between 1 Tech and 3 Tech, just so those who didn't know could learn. Phillips had no clue. Tasker had to walk him through it and explain to the audience himself. It was one of the most painful things I've listened to. That told me basically what I needed to know. Phillips is a guy you tell to just go get the QB. He is not capable of much else.

[bmur66]

I wonder if he is still the slowest guy at the snap that I ever noticed.

[machine gun kelly]

15 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

Hoping for this.

 

Got it.

 

Great move...just a plain smart move.

FWIW, he sets the edge well, and is good against the run.  He won’t get probably even 1 sack in the playoffs, but he may hold up well against the run, and we need that piece.  Way to go Beane.

 

Now let’s kick their cheating arses.

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, MJS said:

Phillips is a guy you tell to just go get the QB. He is not capable of much else.

 

yep. It is why the Bills didn't pay him big money. Too much of a freelancer for our scheme.

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

FWIW, he sets the edge well, and is good against the run.  He won’t get probably even 1 sack in the playoffs, but he may hold up well against the run, and we need that piece.  Way to go Beane.

 

Now let’s kick their cheating arses.

 

Throw in too, Guns, that he is likely hungry and his teammates love him.

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, MJS said:

Did you wake up one morning and decide that you wanted to be the most insufferable Bills fan on the planet?

 

By the way, I agree with you on Lawson. I don't think he is good enough to be on our team. If they want to sign him to the practice squad for insurance, fine. By all means.

 

But the constant doom and gloom, crying about Allen's contract, crying about possibly being one and done in the playoffs, constantly talking down the best team we have had in decades... it sucks to read your posts, dude.

 

Can we have a break if the Bills win this Saturday? Can you agree to not crap all over the Bills and everything they do for a few days?

[Matt_In_NH]

He earned a contract, that team got rid of him in a trade, the team that traded for him waived him and they suck, need talent.  Could be scheme fit but also could be dedication to his craft.  I have not kept up with him too much but I cannot see him playing this week.

Edited January 12, 2022 by mattynh

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Shaq Lawson possibly returning to Buffalo

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Will call is holding two tickets for him until 4 pm Saturday.  Upper deck.

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I like his moxie, but it seems where the facts are heading.

[FireChans]

6 hours ago, MJS said:

I would have rather had Lawson back than Phillips, honestly. Lawson at least played within the system. Phillips left his gap responsibilities to go chase the QB. He was a real liability for the defense. He did one thing and only one thing, and that was rush the QB, to the detriment of everything else. He got his sacks and a big contract, which is what he wanted.

 

He came on One Bills Live one time and Tasker asked him to explain to the audience the difference between 1 Tech and 3 Tech, just so those who didn't know could learn. Phillips had no clue. Tasker had to walk him through it and explain to the audience himself. It was one of the most painful things I've listened to. That told me basically what I needed to know. Phillips is a guy you tell to just go get the QB. He is not capable of much else.

I think that’s fair, but I don’t think Phillips mailed it in like Shaq did either. Yes he didn’t play disciplined and he wasn’t a perfect player. He also hasn’t been cut or traded twice since leaving. Shaq is a bigger problem.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Looking more and more that Massare floated this out after McD's presser yesterday as a "connect the dots" "reading tea leaves" kinda thing.

 

No sources, he's "unpinned" the big scoop off his Twitter (but hasn't deleted). This way if Lawson does sign he can look credible. FWIW, I've heard he has done this in the past, but don't follow him so I don't know.

[Warcodered]

 

[BADOLBILZ]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

yep. It is why the Bills didn't pay him big money. Too much of a freelancer for our scheme.

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see Shaq or Jordan Phillips back on a cheap deal next year.

 

They really don't need an edge setter at LDE anymore though.........Groot had a dominant season against the run.

 

"Rousseau made his mark against the run, tallying an incredible 32 defensive run stops, which was tied for the most in the league and far more than any other rookie."

 

-ESPN "best players of the year" feature

Edited January 12, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[FilthyBeast]

9 hours ago, MJS said:

Did you wake up one morning and decide that you wanted to be the most insufferable Bills fan on the planet?

 

By the way, I agree with you on Lawson. I don't think he is good enough to be on our team. If they want to sign him to the practice squad for insurance, fine. By all means.

 

But the constant doom and gloom, crying about Allen's contract, crying about possibly being one and done in the playoffs, constantly talking down the best team we have had in decades... it sucks to read your posts, dude.

 

Can we have a break if the Bills win this Saturday? Can you agree to not crap all over the Bills and everything they do for a few days?

 

With all due respect, I'm not 'that guy'. I've post plenty of supportive, positive content about this team despite a few posters here making paranoid accusations otherwise.

 

The reality of the situation is this team has been woefully inconsistent since the start of the 2021 campaign and while ending the season on a four game winning streak has created a certain degree of momentum, the warning signs are there (specifically the last few weeks with Allens poor play) that this year's playoff run might not be as successful as last year. Combine that with Allens record and stats in cold weather games and the concern is legitimate.

 

But at the end of the day I predicted 12-5 and losing in the divisional round prior to the season and this team looks to be on track for that sans being a game off on the record prediction. But I do believe they win against the Pats, albeit in a very tight game that may come down to a FG in the final minutes.

[JohnNord]

So can we talk how this blog basically posted speculation as fact?  For some reason, no one wants to call out Train Wreck Sports but they have disputed the signing report in a nice way.

 

I was suspicious from the start.   Check out how they qualify their claim:

“Barring a physical/Covid snag, Lawson will rejoining the Bills at some point in the future.”

You don’t see journalists report vague information like this if they have legit sources.  
My guess is that whoever wrote this article made the jump from discussion between the Bills and Shaq.

 

It still might happen, but again, I think this is simply speculation that they jumped the gun to be the first to “break” news.  

 

Here’s how the Buffalo media (who acknowledges bloggers) reacted.  They have basically refuted their report in a nice way:

 

 

 

 

 

[billsfan89]

Given that the Bills go up against a run heavy offense in the WC round and could possibly end up facing the Titans again later on it wouldn't hurt to get a player that fits the system and sets the edge well against the run. But I trust the front office and they should know if Shaq fits what they want to do in the playoffs.

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

 

THe best picture from that twitter page was this !!!  Go Bills !

 

 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

54 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

So can we talk how this blog basically posted speculation as fact?  For some reason, no one wants to call out Train Wreck Sports but they have disputed the signing report in a nice way.

 

I was suspicious from the start.   Check out how they qualify their claim:

“Barring a physical/Covid snag, Lawson will rejoining the Bills at some point in the future.”

You don’t see journalists report vague information like this if they have legit sources.  
My guess is that whoever wrote this article made the jump from discussion between the Bills and Shaq.

 

It still might happen, but again, I think this is simply speculation that they jumped the gun to be the first to “break” news.  

 

Here’s how the Buffalo media (who acknowledges bloggers) reacted.  They have basically refuted their report in a nice way:

 

 

 

 

 

It wouldn’t be the first time that camp ‘jumped the gun’ to be first (Tyson Calabo), but I do too have some respect for those guys. There is enough smoke for the “both parties are talking” fire to likely be true. 
 

TRS just went with a click bate title, unfortunately. 

[BarleyNY]

18 hours ago, Cruiserplayer said:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/shaq-lawson-18967/ this reads as if he would only cost 1 million next year. If that’s right we should definitely claim him.

No.  How that is presented is a little deceivingly.  It is purely guaranteed salary the Jest owe him and are eating.  If a team had claimed him off waivers, they’d have been on the hook for about $9.2M next season.  Now he is a FA. 

[BarleyNY]

8 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

It wouldn’t be the first time that camp ‘jumped the gun’ to be first (Tyson Calabo), but I do too have some respect for those guys. There is enough smoke for the “both parties are talking” fire to likely be true. 
 

TRS just went with a click bate title, unfortunately. 

Could just be that the Bills had a convo with Shaq’s agent about signing him if we need him due to injury in the playoffs.  Or they’re keeping the door open for next season (though I think that is less likely).

[TheyCallMeAndy]

6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Could just be that the Bills had a convo with Shaq’s agent about signing him if we need him due to injury in the playoffs.  Or they’re keeping the door open for next season (though I think that is less likely).

Totally agree, Beane checks out every FA but I do believe there is legitimate interest on both sides. Shaq is only 27, if he can bring that great run defender who is also solid pass rusher to pair up with Groot, that would be sweet. 

[BarleyNY]

Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Totally agree, Beane checks out every FA but I do believe there is legitimate interest on both sides. Shaq is only 27, if he can bring that great run defender who is also solid pass rusher to pair up with Groot, that would be sweet. 

Yup.  Always depends on the price.  Not a bad idea to tell him to check out the market and keep us in mind.  Maybe if the offers he sees are modest we can match and he can play here, in a place he likes with teammates he likes. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

 

[bigduke6]

i barely remember Shaq playing here,  which makes me think,  he didnt do much.   then he went to Miami and disappeared.    why are some excited about this?

just curious.   has he gotten better?

[PromoTheRobot]

Any more news from Kevin Massare?

[What a Tuel]

19 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Obviously they are planning for a better scenario.

 

My point is that if this team is one and done (which I still think is a stronger possibility that some fans want to admit) than yes it's pointless to bring Lawson back to buffalo and not sure he would realistically be ready to play on Saturday after spending a few days with the team.

 

I don't understand.

 

If they aren't planning to be "one and done", why wouldn't they make roster moves that benefit a deeper playoff run?

 

The only alternative is not signing him because they are planning to be eliminated which doesn't make sense.

 

What does make sense is that you consistently argue that the Bills won't live up to expectations. I'm sure you'll be right eventually if you keep saying it enough. Then you'll get your "told you so, I knew all along" moment that you so crave.

Edited January 12, 2022 by What a Tuel

[TheyCallMeAndy]

21 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

i barely remember Shaq playing here,  which makes me think,  he didnt do much.   then he went to Miami and disappeared.    why are some excited about this?

just curious.   has he gotten better?

He was very solid his last year in Buffalo and first year in Miami. 

[Logic]

23 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

i barely remember Shaq playing here,  which makes me think,  he didnt do much.   then he went to Miami and disappeared.    why are some excited about this?

just curious.   has he gotten better?

Well...

He had 6.5 sacks and 17 TFL his last season in Buffalo, which would have led the Bills this season. 

He was a plus run defender.

He fit in well in the locker room and brought some humor and light-heartedness and swag.

He already knows our system and would be valuable depth for the playoffs and, if things go well, perhaps for the future.

Hughes and Addison might be gone after this year, and having some veteran depth behind our trio of youngster edge rushers might be good.

He's still just 27 years old.

We would no longer be counting on him to play big starter minutes or to live up to a first round billing. We'd simply be bringing in a guy who can play the run well, rush the passer well in spurts, fits well into the locker room, and knows the system. At this point in the season, that's a good get.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Logic

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 hours ago, HOUSE said:

 

 

 

I think the first gif was better. 🤔

[PromoTheRobot]

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

48 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Any more news from Kevin Massare?

I 'followed' him on LinkedIn, just so I could go back and 'unfollow' him. 🤨

[jlgarsh]

45 minutes ago, Logic said:

Well...

He had 6.5 sacks and 17 TFL his last season in Buffalo, which would have led the Bills this season. 

He was a plus run defender.

He fit in well in the locker room and brought some humor and light-heartedness and swag.

He already knows our system and would be valuable depth for the playoffs and, if things go well, perhaps for the future.

Hughes and Addison might be gone after this year, and having some veteran depth behind our trio of youngster edge rushers might be good.

He's still just 27 years old.

We would no longer be counting on him to play big starter minutes or to live up to a first round billing. We'd simply be bringing in a guy who can play the run well, rush the passer well in spurts, fits well into the locker room, and knows the system. At this point in the season, that's a good get.

How many sacks did Addison finish with? I thought 7 but maybe it was 6? He looked better as the season went on. Hughes had a pretty quiet year this year

[Trock]

Didn’t he sign yesterday? What happened?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I’m not sure how much impact Shaq could have these next few weeks if he does re-sign here. It’ll take him a little bit to get up to speed on the changes from the last 2 years. 
 

I still would like to see him on the roster this summer. 

[Doc]

25 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

IOW wants too much money.  Pass.

[Mr. WEO]

On 1/11/2022 at 1:28 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Wha???? Didn’t see this coming! Wow.

it was mentioned in the other Shaq Lawson threads

[Mat68]

They are already 6 deep.  Losing Hughes and Addison I dont know where Lawson fits into the current defense.  Maybe on a low to vet min deal I consider it.  Signing him to PS for the playoffs isnt bad either.

[Freddie's Dead]

Jerry Hughes on OBL:  "Let's get Shaq back up in heah".