Ramza86 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I feel like thats when the Bills are at their worst offensively. Make Josh get rid of it early and hope he doesnt escape the pressure. I feel like the Jets stalled a lot of drives that way. I can easily see Bill replicating that seeing how playing so safe last time didnt work. What do we do to counter act that style of play? Cause I think we need to be up early in order to hinder their decisions to run the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Quick dump offs / screens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: I feel like thats when the Bills are at their worst offensively. Make Josh get rid of it early and hope he doesnt escape the pressure. I feel like the Jets stalled a lot of drives that way. I can easily see Bill replicating that seeing how playing so safe last time didnt work. What do we do to counter act that style of play? Cause I think we need to be up early in order to hinder their decisions to run the ball. Any idea how many plays they brought more than 4? The pats did so about 15 times in the last meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Ramza86 said: I feel like thats when the Bills are at their worst offensively. Make Josh get rid of it early and hope he doesnt escape the pressure. I feel like the Jets stalled a lot of drives that way. I can easily see Bill replicating that seeing how playing so safe last time didnt work. What do we do to counter act that style of play? Cause I think we need to be up early in order to hinder their decisions to run the ball. The run game has been much better lately with Singletary. If he can have another good game that will help Josh out tremendously. It would also help keep the Pats pass rush in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I think the Pats are done and will fold quickly in this game, but the one thing that could keep them in the game is if they get to Allen. So, I think they bring a ton of pressure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: I feel like thats when the Bills are at their worst offensively. Make Josh get rid of it early and hope he doesnt escape the pressure. I feel like the Jets stalled a lot of drives that way. I can easily see Bill replicating that seeing how playing so safe last time didnt work. What do we do to counter act that style of play? Cause I think we need to be up early in order to hinder their decisions to run the ball. I hope they do...that's when Allen can burn them one on one or take off and get huge gains running because all the defenders have their backs turned in man to man coverage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Yes, they will come after Allen all night. They are going to have the opposite game plan than they had last time. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I dont expect them to do what they did last time, thats for sure.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 No, I don't think they will. I'm sure they'll blitz some, but I bet they'll drop into coverage a lot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I am guessing they will employ BB plan to,stand up 7 at LOS to confuse the OL assignments and disguise who is coming 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) I'm sure Belichick will remember who the (bleep) Josh Allen is this time around and have a few wrinkles sprinkled in. Up to the coaches and team to counter them. Edited January 11, 2022 by No Place To Hyde 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yes, they will come after Allen all night. They are going to have the opposite game plan than they had last time. But now that they know that we know that they might go with a different plan, shouldn't we now know that they know that too, so WE come up with an opposite plan too - and only pass 4 times? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Bring it. Josh will scramble their brains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: But now that they know that we know that they might go with a different plan, shouldn't we now know that they know that too, so WE come up with an opposite plan too - and only pass 4 times? 😉 Jumbo pack all game long and run all over them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I suspect that Belichick rolls a lot of coverage out there again and makes Josh prove he can methodically move it down the field two games in a row without making a mistake. For everything we did right in the second game, if JC Jackson catches that ball on the last scoring drive there's a great chance we lose that day. Pats will keep everything in front of them and it will be up to the Bills to solve the redzone exam inside the 20. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I suspect that Belichick rolls a lot of coverage out there again and makes Josh prove he can methodically move it down the field two games in a row without making a mistake. For everything we did right in the second game, if JC Jackson catches that ball on the last scoring drive there's a great chance we lose that day. Pats will keep everything in front of them and it will be up to the Bills to solve the redzone exam inside the 20. Ok, if they get to catch a dropped pass, so do we. I'll take one of the dropped TD passes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I hope they blitz a lot. but I think what BB will do is mix it up all game. That’s his best chance. Also, not really sure the jets blitzed a ton— did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ramza86 said: I feel like thats when the Bills are at their worst offensively. Make Josh get rid of it early and hope he doesnt escape the pressure. I feel like the Jets stalled a lot of drives that way. I can easily see Bill replicating that seeing how playing so safe last time didnt work. What do we do to counter act that style of play? Cause I think we need to be up early in order to hinder their decisions to run the ball. I felt like it wasn't so much the Jets who stopped us as it was our own mistakes. I love to see them blitz him. He handles it beautifully. It's the teams that pressure well with four guys that do well against this offense. I think we'll see a bunch of stunts, shifting fronts, packed fronts with guys dropping out ... more trying to cause confusion that actual blitzes. Last time they didn't rush hard, instead trying to keep him in the pocket. I think they'll do that sometimes, other times go all out, blitzing occasionally but not predictably. Edited January 11, 2022 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 They are going to look to confuse the line and Allen. He is going to bring a lot of pressure but contain and spy Allen as well with the goal to get him to scramble but then realize he can't. He'll take away quick hitters and force the ball mid/down field. That's my guess. He always mixes and disguises coverage but playoffs are a different animal. The other thought is they'll let the Bills run the ball to take it out of Allen's hands. Much like he did on the Giants to the Bills in the super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Bills evidently used 6th OL (Doyal-TE) against Jets to slow their rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 They are terrified of giving up a big play. A few easy touchdowns the game is over. 59 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: I am guessing they will employ BB plan to,stand up 7 at LOS to confuse the OL assignments and disguise who is coming Buffalo has crucified the Dolphins 3 years in a row with them running that defense. I think in spots they will bring pressure. Problem with Allen. What if he evades the rush? You are f’d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I suspect that Belichick rolls a lot of coverage out there again and makes Josh prove he can methodically move it down the field two games in a row without making a mistake. For everything we did right in the second game, if JC Jackson catches that ball on the last scoring drive there's a great chance we lose that day. Pats will keep everything in front of them and it will be up to the Bills to solve the redzone exam inside the 20. At the end of the day Josh is the best player on the field and I don't think it's going to matter what they do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 26 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Bills evidently used 6th OL (Doyal-TE) against Jets to slow their rush. That's fine. One less WR option but give Allen more time....I put my money on Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Greg S said: The run game has been much better lately with Singletary. If he can have another good game that will help Josh out tremendously. It would also help keep the Pats pass rush in check. I also like the increased use of McKenzie on jet sweeps for this same reason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: I felt like it wasn't so much the Jets who stopped us as it was our own mistakes. I love to see them blitz him. He handles it beautifully. It's the teams that pressure well with four guys that do well against this offense. I think we'll see a bunch of stunts, shifting fronts, packed fronts with guys dropping out ... more trying to cause confusion that actual blitzes. Last time they didn't rush hard, instead trying to keep him in the pocket. I think they'll do that sometimes, other times go all out, blitzing occasionally but not predictably. I think you are spot on. If they can get consistent pressure with four guys, they will make it a very tough game for Allen and the offense. It is nice to see the Bills have had their best offensive linemen available, healthy, and playing together for a few games. If they can just play up to their abilities, this team can beat any team they face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Screens and quick slants across the middle....Dabol should know this.......if he's not too busy interviewing for new jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Quick dump offs / screens Agreed an aggressive front 7 is often neutralized by a couple screens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Belichick won't do the same thing again that's for sure. They gave Allen time in the last game and hoped they could keep him in the pocket and he'd try forcing things. So I expect him to send a lot more pressure this time. I don't know what % of plays McKenzie played against the Jets but against the Pats I'd have him on the field all the time, lined up all over the place. Usually Belichick will concentrate on taking away Diggs, but after what McKenzie did to them he's hopefully going to take a lot of the attention as well. So even if they use him as a decoy to get Diggs open, get him in as often as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Yes, it will be the exact opposite of the ***** gameplan they had last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 The Hoodie always has a spy on Allen, usually a LB. How does Daboll exploit that defender? There has to be a way to put him in conflict, like roll Josh out and at the same time have Knox or Bease from the backside enter that vacated area. IDK but its a strong tendency from a Belichick defense and we should be able to take advantage of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Dumps off to the rbs and hopefully they use plenty of Mckenzie for some drag routes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I’m more interested in seeing if Bellyache will make McKenzie a focal point. He had no adjustment for the long crossers in the last game. None at all. And Allen repeatedly burned them with those throws to little dirty. That said, I hope he does blitz more because Allen is one of the best at beating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I wouldn't be concerned at all about the stalled drives from the Jets game............it seemed to me that Daboll was just trying to get Allen a pocket passing game to sharpen that aspect up and not get him beat up. They played the last Patriots game like every drive mattered and punting was not an option so I'd expect more of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Any idea how many plays they brought more than 4? The pats did so about 15 times in the last meeting No telling how many blitzes we see, but I am much more confident in our OL protection than earlier in the season. I mean it's a huge difference in how well the OL has played compared to earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: I’m more interested in seeing if Bellyache will make McKenzie a focal point. He had no adjustment for the long crossers in the last game. None at all. And Allen repeatedly burned them with those throws to little dirty. That said, I hope he does blitz more because Allen is one of the best at beating it. Right. Pats LBs are not the most athletic group. JA ability to hit pass catchers in stride is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I think we are past the point as a team where the Pats are going to surprise us. They’re much more limited than in years past. BB isn’t going to blitz us and let Josh turn huge gains with his feet, because he knows it they get behind Mac isn’t throwing them back into the game. They need a bend don’t break defense and a ton of time of possession on offense. Conservative, passing out of play action and maybe a few trick plays to spark a quick score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yes, they will come after Allen all night. They are going to have the opposite game plan than they had last time. Let em bring it....OL has made nearly a complete turn around compared to earlier imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: No telling how many blitzes we see, but I am much more confident in our OL protection than earlier in the season. I mean it's a huge difference in how well the OL has played compared to earlier. Absolutely. Now we just need for josh to remember how to throw like he did the day after Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I can see the Hood using alot of man to man coverage......he's not stupid enough to go with zone and let JA pick them apart, however, i think he'll try to neutralise Motor early and set the tone for a passing game in hopes of turn overs. If we stick with screens, quick slants and taking the short underneath yardage, it'll open things up somewhat. I can't see too many long shot down the field opportunities in this one. Patience and taking what the D gives us is the key in this chess match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, motorj said: Dumps off to the rbs and hopefully they use plenty of Mckenzie for some drag routes That won't work twice.. Not sure how they will defend that, but they will defend that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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