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These guys on the YouTube podcast are pretty good.  Gave Josh and the Bills a ton of credit.  Compared McKittrick to Welker, which in NE is calling him God.  These guys also gave the Bills D credit for not allowing big passing plays and blanketing the Cheats receivers all day.  They trashed Josh McDaniels for not being more creative in the passing game.  They trashed the Cheats a ton, and didn't trash the Bills at all.  They gave the Bills their proper propers.

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3 hours ago, Logic said:

I didn’t see this posted yet. It’s the greatest 90 seconds of audio I’ve ever heard in my life.

 

”He has a rag ahm!”

 

”The division runs through Buffalo for the next 20 years. Not us. It’s ova!”

 

 

 

Can we get a Kickstarter going to buy Caller Bob a beer? Or a case of beers? That's the kind of take I want to hear more of!

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4 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

I think the Bills D needs to do better and not expect our offence to go the whole game without punting to win.  If we had any struggles on offence in that second half there is a good chance we could have lost this game .  

 

Remember part of the reason why Pats only had so many yards is because the Bills controlled the clock with time consuming drives with 35 mins of total game time.  How many 4th downs did the Pats covert yesterday? (5 of 6) and part of the reason why they had less then 300 yards was they only had the ball for 24 mins. Again we cannot expect our offence to play flawless. no punts at all

 

The Pats controlled their own clock too.  Thats the problem with offenses that rely heavily on the run against teams that can score.  The two Pats TD drives took over 7 minutes each.  Their last TD drive took over 4 minutes and the clocked stopped 4 times on that drive from either penalties or incomplete passes.  They don't have the ability to score quickly.

 

Also, our offense didn't play flawless.  Josh could have thrown two picks. Two dropped TD passes and a TD taken away from penalty. A failed conversion on 4th down in the red zone.

 

The defense was not great but they played good enough.  The passing game was pretty much taken away and the running game didn't matter.  My only disappointment was giving up that many 4th down conversions. Outside of that I thought they did well.

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8 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Let's give Daboll some credit.  Allen threw for 220yards and 2 TDs by throwing at NE's best corner, and by throwing to his #5 choice at WR 12 times.  Our #1 guy beat their #1 guy, they took away guys 2-4 like they wanted to, and out #5 guy roasted their #5 guy because they didn't have anybody left.

 

 

I noted that during the game too. The Bills thought the DB matching up with McKenzie would have trouble with him and it was obviously a big part of their game plan. The pass protection made it possible to exploit. Good game planning by Daboll. Good execution on the field.

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10 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

I went to the Pats fan site and most fans realize the Bills have a massive edge at the most critical position on the field.  That was the difference in this game because our defence did not do much but Allen and our offence just kept responding even after Pats would score.  You kept thinking this would be the drive our o-line gives up a huge sack and we point when the Pats made it a 5 point game and Allen would come up with a big throw.  Our O-line played their best game of the season and that allowed Allen to make plays that we saw.  If this team can get some better production from their D-LINE over the next two games and into the playoffs then anything is possible because were now at least showing signs of a running game. Nothing huge but at least giving defences something to think about 

Mac jones is the best thing to happen to the afc east teams not named the patriots…he’s good but his ceiling is just too low for them to be a serious perennial threat in my opinion and NE will be stuck in that good not great range as long as he’s there

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35 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Mac jones is the best thing to happen to the afc east teams not named the patriots…he’s good but his ceiling is just too low for them to be a serious perennial threat in my opinion and NE will be stuck in that good not great range as long as he’s there

From the little I've seen of Jones, I think he has promise, but he's got a ways to go and Josh has it all over him. 

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12 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

Because they owned the division for more than a decade with a QB that has a popgun arm. 

 

This is one of the biggest myths of all time. Brady had a very good arm in his heyday. He was never in the upper echelon but he wasn’t in the Mac Jones/Tua Tagovailoa tier either.

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12 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Mac jones is the best thing to happen to the afc east teams not named the patriots…he’s good but his ceiling is just too low for them to be a serious perennial threat in my opinion and NE will be stuck in that good not great range as long as he’s there

He may not be there long.  From flushing Kosar, to Bledsoe, to Stidham, Belli has never been one to ride with a mediocre QB any longer than necessary.

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13 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Mac jones is the best thing to happen to the afc east teams not named the patriots…he’s good but his ceiling is just too low for them to be a serious perennial threat in my opinion and NE will be stuck in that good not great range as long as he’s there

Would love it if the early fan and media hype bites them in the ass, and leads the Pats to hold onto Jones longer than they otherwise would have.  At least two more seasons before they realize he will not be their long-term answer?

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15 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Mac jones is the best thing to happen to the afc east teams not named the patriots…he’s good but his ceiling is just too low for them to be a serious perennial threat in my opinion and NE will be stuck in that good not great range as long as he’s there

I get a strong Chad Pennington vibe from him in the few games I have watched, that I think is his ceiling.

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12 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

This is one of the biggest myths of all time. Brady had a very good arm in his heyday. He was never in the upper echelon but he wasn’t in the Mac Jones/Tua Tagovailoa tier either.

 

His arm was weak when he started his career, if I remember correctly. It got stronger as he hit his prime. 

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15 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Mac jones is the best thing to happen to the afc east teams not named the patriots…he’s good but his ceiling is just too low for them to be a serious perennial threat in my opinion and NE will be stuck in that good not great range as long as he’s there

 

IMO they are going to be capped at no more than 10 or 11 wins as long as he is their QB.  They might win the division if the Bills have a down year(it happens even to the best of teams, even NE during that crazy run they had) either from losing people to free agency, poor drafting or injuries, but outside of that they are not a real threat with him at QB, IMO.

 

The only team that could be a threat with their QB potentially talent wise are the Jets but they have a long long way to go and Wilson has a lot to prove.

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I love how towards the end he goes "waaah, we own the division if these two other games go differently".  Oh sweet summer child, that's cute.  We had THREE games taken from us through blatant refball, and a fourth fluke loss to a windstorm.  If there's any team you DON'T complain about fluke losses around, it's the Bills.  Fluke losses took us from 1st seed and Super Bowl favorites, to fighting for a Wild Card as the 7th seed.

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2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I think Jones will be decent. He plays smart and maybe he can add some arm strength. 

Been saying the same thing as well. The kid processes the game at a high level already. I’ll just put it this way, smarts will always get you thru times of no arm more than an arm will get you thru times of no smarts. 
 

The world is littered with strong armed QBs who didn’t know how to play the game.

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6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Been saying the same thing as well. The kid processes the game at a high level already. I’ll just put it this way, smarts will always get you thru times of no arm more than an arm will get you thru times of no smarts. 
 

The world is littered with strong armed QBs who didn’t know how to play the game.

Tell that to Brett Farve

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Check this out...

 

Here are a couple examples

 

"He scrambles. He's just the latest qb to scramble well. Granted he's no RG III kind of disaster waiting to happen, but he's no Russel Wilson or Aaron Rodgers either. I'm not sure he ever wins a ring."

 

"They haven't shown anything else than the fact that they are going to be an one and out playoff team. They don't have that killer instinct; they let us hang around all game long and never bothered to put us away with a kill shot."

 

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1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

Tell that to Brett Farve

Are you suggesting Favre didn’t know how to play the game? That he was just a strong armed dummy? If so, I can’t agree with that at all. Players, especially QBs, don’t last that long and set records along the way if they aren’t smart enough about the game. 

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Just now, K-9 said:

Are you suggesting Favre didn’t know how to play the game? That he was just a strong armed dummy? If so, I can’t agree with that at all. Players, especially QBs, don’t last that long and set records along the way if they aren’t smart enough about the game. 

Farve knew the game, he just didn't care. Not supposed to throw it over the middle into triple coverage? He's throwing it anyway.

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14 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Farve knew the game, he just didn't care. Not supposed to throw it over the middle into triple coverage? He's throwing it anyway.

That’s because he had a cannon and was cocky about it. Josh has done it numerous times himself, including twice just this past Sunday. I cringe every time until the play is over. There are only a few guys who can do that successfully more often than not. It’s not advisable for good reason. 

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53 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Check this out...

 

Here are a couple examples

 

"He scrambles. He's just the latest qb to scramble well. Granted he's no RG III kind of disaster waiting to happen, but he's no Russel Wilson or Aaron Rodgers either. I'm not sure he ever wins a ring."

 

"They haven't shown anything else than the fact that they are going to be an one and out playoff team. They don't have that killer instinct; they let us hang around all game long and never bothered to put us away with a kill shot."

 

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Loll they never led in the game…do they now think their team is a layup that we should obliterate every time?

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On 12/27/2021 at 12:00 PM, Coach Tuesday said:

Hot take: their coach letting him throw only 3 times because it was windy outside may have undermined his confidence and the confidence his teammates had in him.  They’re 0-2 since.

 

Maybe. Or it could be that they played 2 of the top 3 teams in the AFC.

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2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Been saying the same thing as well. The kid processes the game at a high level already. I’ll just put it this way, smarts will always get you thru times of no arm more than an arm will get you thru times of no smarts. 
 

The world is littered with strong armed QBs who didn’t know how to play the game.

I think that’s less and less frequent these days with defensive linemen being the absolute freak athletes they are.  You don’t see many classic pocket passers anymore.  Need someone mobile that can make all the throws on the run. 

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2 hours ago, mattynh said:

Check this out...

 

Here are a couple examples

 

"He scrambles. He's just the latest qb to scramble well. Granted he's no RG III kind of disaster waiting to happen, but he's no Russel Wilson or Aaron Rodgers either. I'm not sure he ever wins a ring."

 

"They haven't shown anything else than the fact that they are going to be an one and out playoff team. They don't have that killer instinct; they let us hang around all game long and never bothered to put us away with a kill shot."

 

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He didn't realize the kill shot was dropped by Sanders in the end zone. This game shouldn't have been close

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2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Been saying the same thing as well. The kid processes the game at a high level already. I’ll just put it this way, smarts will always get you thru times of no arm more than an arm will get you thru times of no smarts. 
 

The world is littered with strong armed QBs who didn’t know how to play the game.

 

But the league is ruled by players with both.

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19 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

He didn't realize the kill shot was dropped by Sanders in the end zone. This game shouldn't have been close

In reality they scored a TD in that sequence, they forced a 3 and out and then drove and scored on a short field, TD to Diggs.  It is interesting how close the game stayed even though the Bills kept driving and scoring.

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Fanbases are nothing more than bias fanatics who wouldn’t know how to be objective if an object hit them squarely in the face.  I’m not sure why this was even posted here.  Certain fans think that certain hall of fame players were bums because they played well against a team they root for.  Excuses are made for players we like and we throw stones at players we hate.  
 

Until Josh Allen wins a few playoff games at least, there will be critics who continue to hound him about winning big games.  That’s the way it has always been.  Fan bases will be fan bases.  There’s no reason to it whatsoever just a bunch of blowhards.

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On 12/27/2021 at 4:53 AM, Niagara Dude said:

That was the difference in this game because our defence did not do much but Allen and our offence just kept responding even after Pats would score.  Y

 

The defense held a team that recently had been putting up 50 burgers in their own house to 21 points. What do you want?

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1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

But the league is ruled by players with both.

But it’s not ruled at all by just a strong arm. Gotta have the smarts first and foremost. 
 

But damn, it’s nice to have a QB that has both to make defenses defend the entire field. 

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1 hour ago, KeLLy1278 said:

Until Josh Allen wins a few playoff games at least, there will be critics who continue to hound him about winning big games.


How many is a few?  Dude won two last year alone.  He’s also won big regular-season games on the road in Dallas, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, and New England. 

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1 hour ago, KeLLy1278 said:

Fanbases are nothing more than bias fanatics who wouldn’t know how to be objective if an object hit them squarely in the face.  I’m not sure why this was even posted here.  Certain fans think that certain hall of fame players were bums because they played well against a team they root for.  Excuses are made for players we like and we throw stones at players we hate.  
 

Until Josh Allen wins a few playoff games at least, there will be critics who continue to hound him about winning big games.  That’s the way it has always been.  Fan bases will be fan bases.  There’s no reason to it whatsoever just a bunch of blowhards.

 

Two is a few.

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3 hours ago, mattynh said:

In reality they scored a TD in that sequence, they forced a 3 and out and then drove and scored on a short field, TD to Diggs.  It is interesting how close the game stayed even though the Bills kept driving and scoring.

The only thing worse than a Pats fan trolling our board is a Pats fan trolling our board who pretends he is not.

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9 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

 

His arm was weak when he started his career, if I remember correctly. It got stronger as he hit his prime. 


correct.  I remember not even taking him seriously even after the first Super Bowl win.  We would constantly throw up ducks into the secondary from 2001-2003. He really worked on his lower body motion for more power on his throws. Aside from that it’s very strange that he seemed to always get stronger the older he got. 

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6 hours ago, K-9 said:

Are you suggesting Favre didn’t know how to play the game? That he was just a strong armed dummy? If so, I can’t agree with that at all. Players, especially QBs, don’t last that long and set records along the way if they aren’t smart enough about the game. 


One of my favorite Favre stories 

 

https://youtu.be/im2hXZ_diy0

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