Nitro Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said: He was absolutely a problem. He was a difference maker and dropped 3 passes one of which was a TD for not coming back to the ball and playing aggressively. He sucked… You are talking about the play were he was held in the end zone? On the radio they said he was held three times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Dawson Knox tonight? Does it need explanation? He's not long for this team. Haven’t you watched a Beane/McDermott directed team? They drive the same bus until the wheels fall off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Merge into post-game thread in 3... 2... 1... But yes, he sucked I mean you don’t need to shadow mod to make your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, Billznut said: Nobody in a Bills uniform had an all pro game when it was most needed. Harrison Phillips had a career game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox was poop, and I’m a fan of his. He has to be better. Bad drops. False start killed drive, drops on 3rd downs killed drives. This was the type of game a TE should love. He has progressed this year, but tonight was a step back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, DrDare said: Harrison Phillips had a career game Really? I guarantee nobody saw or thinks that. And even IF he did. It didn’t matter one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox might have been rushed back from his hand injury too soon, which is on whoever decided to keep Sweeney over Hollister. If we had a capable backup TE Knox could of rested his hand intell it is fully healed. It's been the size of a bowling ball after every game sense he has came back, I'd take that as not fully healed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Yea I’d only label a few of them drops but he’s gotta make 1 more play out of the 5 or 6 opportunities he had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, gordong said: Knox was not why this team lost…. Not even close….all the girls that play defense are why the Jill’s lost You gotta be kidding. D is only allowed +6, +2 and two FGs WITH the wind. The D is not why they lost. The D is only thing that kept them in game and gave them a shot to win it at end. The offense couldn't score and wind blew a sure chip shot wide-right or Bills are trying for a winning FG. 14 points. (really only 1 TD). What were expecting a shutout? They were outclassed, outcoached when it came to strategy. McD should have elected to not get ball to start 3rd. Yup, double defer! Take wind in 4th. That missed FG would have been with the wind and a winning/go ahead kick attempt with the wind at end. Sure D couldn't stop one long run... That's only 8 points. They did everything to carry the team in a very physics contest. Grinding out every play, stuffing NE* in backfield and only allowing 14 points. You should win giving up 14 points on 1 TD and 2 FGs! Because the coaching staff can't simply follow one rule: "Take the wind in 4th when you have the option during games like this" ...They can't think outside the box. The coin toss was the curse. They could have deferred the second half kickoff. In bad weather, that's like having last ups in baseball! Hoodie pushed end game. Bills coaching staff misplayed their choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You gotta be kidding. D is only allowed +6, +2 and two FGs WITH the wind. The D is not why they lost. The D is only thing that kept them in game and gave them a shot to win it at end. The offense couldn't score and wind blew a sure chip shot wide-right or Bills are trying for a winning FG. 14 points. (really only 1 TD). What were expecting a shutout? They were outclassed, outcoached when it came to strategy. McD should have elected to not get ball to start 3rd. Yup, double defer! Take wind in 4th. That missed FG would have been with the wind and a winning/go ahead kick attempt with the wind at end. Sure D couldn't stop one long run... That's only 8 points. They did everything to carry the team in a very physics contest. Grinding out every play, stuffing NE* in backfield and only allowing 14 points. You should win giving up 14 points on 1 TD and 2 FGs! Because the coaching staff can't simply follow one rule: "Take the wind in 4th when you have the option during games like this" ...They can't think outside the box. The coin toss was the curse. They could have deferred the second half kickoff. In bad weather, that's like having last ups in baseball! Hoodie pushed end game. Bills coaching staff misplayed their choices. I was expecting them not to get their ass run over for 222 yards, and beaten by a team that threw the damn ball three times. This loss is 100% on the soft ass girls playing defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, gordong said: I was expecting them not to get their ass run over for 222 yards, and beaten by a team that threw the damn ball three times. This loss is 100% on the soft ass girls playing defense. They only put up 240 total. LoL... It's not getting run over when that 222 is basically all their plays! LoL.... It's getting run over if they also would have passed for a buck 50 or more. They only had 3 passes for 20 yards. One long TD and 2 FGs... Bills pretty much stuffed them. Bills bills put up 11 yards less total. Did they pass all over them? Bills had a more balanced attack and hung 100 yards rushing on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, gordong said: I was expecting them not to get their ass run over for 222 yards, and beaten by a team that threw the damn ball three times. This loss is 100% on the soft ass girls playing defense. Pats crossed midfield three times…we had excellent field position all night and did absolutely nothing with it…we make one more play on offense and the pats essentially are running out the clock on themselves all game…bill put a ton of faith in his defense and will come out of it looking brilliant but he was probably sweating at times there lol I think they misjudged how effectively josh would manage those drives into the wind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Meanwhile Ertz is playing very well with his new team and likely would’ve caught one or both of those passes Knox dropped tonight. He’s also savvy enough to draw a flag in the endzone when a defender is draped all over him. Knox has to sell it better, he was more focused on the pass than drawing a penalty, but the penalty is what he should’ve been after given the DBs aggressiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox sucks. Hands of stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: The play in the end zone the fans want PI but when I rewatched it it looked clean if anything Knox pushed off to get open a bit. Don’t know what the fans saw there. Also can someone explain to me the logic of not going for 2 to tie the game at 8? I thought for sure they would. Coach is sackless and didn’t understand the severity of the weather or the limitations of his players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox was a trainwreck. His drops killed drives. That false start to make it 3rd and 14 was devastating. What game are some of you watching? You can make those mistakes against the Jets, not the Pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox has been great all year but Knox had a really bad day tonight. Two drops and the false start penalty in the redzone towards the end of the game killed them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, gordong said: I was expecting them not to get their ass run over for 222 yards, and beaten by a team that threw the damn ball three times. This loss is 100% on the soft ass girls playing defense. I don’t give a damn if they gave up 500 yards on the ground. The number that matters most is 14 points. This game was on the offenses lack of putting up points. SEVEN times in Pats territory and 10 points to show. FOUR TIMES in the red zone. That is disgusting. Anyone that puts this game on the defense clearly doesn’t understand the game of football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox was a one man wrecking crew , at least 4 drops a key false start it just wasn't his night. If the Bills had another viable option I am sure he would have been pulled. Do the Bills really need a rotation of players being the goat? (costing us games) Oh well on to Tampa and that other Goat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. He was getting mugged all game but the refs didn't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 8 hours ago, WMDman said: false start killed us This. False start on one...drop on another that would have gotten us the first down. Then the sack. All plays that killed us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Worse was the false start penalty at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 8 hours ago, gordong said: Knox was not why this team lost…. Not even close….all the girls that play defense are why the Jill’s lost The pats had 11 first downs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 You have to catch those, sorry. This kid is athletic but his hands cost us the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Wilde Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I understand that Stephon Diggs is the hot babe in the high school class. I understand he's too sexy to criticize but Josh put a long ball right into his hands in the endzone and Diggs couldn't handle it. It landed right in his forearms and he dropped it. Now, the Bills will start winning as per usual and also as per usual the wins at this point will come too late and won't matter. This organization does not deserve the support they get. It's all hype but no substance when it really comes down to the crunch. I need to see McDummy out of Buffalo. I'm a Christian too but that identification doesn't overcome my need to see him and his conservative approach walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Billznut said: Nobody in a Bills uniform had an all pro game when it was most needed. I'd have settled for 'pro' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Billznut said: Nobody in a Bills uniform had an all pro game when it was most needed. Allen played great under the circumstances. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 11 hours ago, Nitro said: You are talking about the play were he was held in the end zone? On the radio they said he was held three times. In the end zone the guy made a great play, wasnt held - he should have came back to the ball...on the other ones could have been questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 of the "drops" were great plays by the defender - they would have been amazing catches, honestly. People are being to harsh about those. But the penalty probably lost the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: You have to catch those, sorry. This kid is athletic but his hands cost us the game. It's like he's slowly reverting back to his first 2 years. I was really praying he'd finally be our reliable TE. Clearly last night was the worst game of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 The first drop (which was horrible) kind of colored our perception of him for the rest of the game. I agree that the other two "drops" weren't drops at all. They were pass breakups and no one was catching those balls. He was also horribly held and interfered with on the 3rd and 14 "drop". He wasn't good, but he wasn't the reason we lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Kelse, Kittle and the good TE make those plays. Heck Jonnu Smith does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 The Bills skill position players are overrated. Outside of Diggs they dont have another killer in the Tight End, Running Back or wideout group. Beasley and Sanders are at the end of their careers and Knox is a product of playing in an offense with Josh Allen. They dont have one player outside of Allen who can change a game. Not being able to have a skill player turn a small gain into a long gain with just their ability is a huge issue on this offense and it needs to change or they will literally waste one of the best QB talents in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said: In the end zone the guy made a great play, wasnt held - he should have came back to the ball...on the other ones could have been questionable. You can disagree with Woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox is the epitome of what has been wrong with most of Beane's draft picks. Shows flashes and glimpses of greatness, but comes up small in the biggest of games. People can blame the weather but he makes even just one of the catches he dropped last night it could be a totally different outcome we are discussing this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The Bills skill position players are overrated. Outside of Diggs they dont have another killer in the Tight End, Running Back or wideout group. Beasley and Sanders are at the end of their careers and Knox is a product of playing in an offense with Josh Allen. They dont have one player outside of Allen who can change a game. Not being able to have a skill player turn a small gain into a long gain with just their ability is a huge issue on this offense and it needs to change or they will literally waste one of the best QB talents in the league. This is so true...we really need upgrades at all the skill positions 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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