Niagara Dude Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I was not impressed with every kick being short of the end zone and this helping the Titans get good field position. No run up to the ball before kicking off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Bills thought that kicking the ball short and making Titans return would lead to poor Titans field position. s Strategy failed on Bills last kickoff and Titans started at 35. I don’t think it’s smart strategy. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Kicking it high and short sets up the chance the returner is tackled before the 20. Less of a running start for returner and coverage team should be closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Kicking it high and short sets up the chance the returner is tackled before the 20. Less of a running start for returner and coverage team should be closer. I would prefer he just kick it through the end zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It was obviously on purpose... And not his decision... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Bills thought that kicking the ball short and making Titans return would lead to poor Titans field position. s Strategy failed on Bills last kickoff and Titans started at 35. I don’t think it’s smart strategy. They also got called for a penalty on a kickoff & coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I mean we have typically stopped the return inside the 25 which is a net positive I guess. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It kind of worked for the most part, but I don't like it either. Why tempt fate with the possibility of a kick return TD....just bomb it through the end zone! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 They didn’t return any of his kicks for TDs. Andre Smith had 2 crucial penalties on ST tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Respectfully, you stumbled upon something that had no bearing on the outcome of the game. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It worked well until the last kickoff. it Also Opens up the possibility of a fumble. Obviously the Bills thought they had the advantage on the area and with an average drive start at the 22 you’d have to say it worked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 We did this a bunch last year too. It’s just a design. We’re supposed to be an elite coverage unit. Between Taiwan, Siran and others they expect to have them starting inside the 20. Doesn’t always work but it’s still pretty effective when they do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Showing off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 You could make the argument to just kick it through the end zone, but I understand what the Bills were doing. It worked for the most part save the last return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I think their game plan was a directional kick trying to get better field position or a turnover because he routinely kicks touch backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I actually also thought they wanted to cover more for the physicality of it— set the tone and blow them up. I think they did pretty well overall. But i am of the “don’t tempt fate” camp. Edited October 19, 2021 by Miyagi-Do Karate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It was a "wash" overall. Nothing gained, nothing lost. They tried something they saw on tape they thought gave them an advantage. Didn't hurt them, at least they were trying something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) More collisions and a greater chance for injury. I believe we blew our one returners knee. Oh well. We are good at causing injuries which helps weaken the team in their next game. Edited October 19, 2021 by Dr.Sack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I actually also thought they wanted to cover more for the physicality of it— set the tone and blow them up. I think they did pretty well overall. But i am of the “don’t tempt fate” camp. Agreed. And for a team that’s been as sloppy on special teams this season as this team has, just kick the ball out of the end zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cDAVIS Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: I was not impressed with every kick being short of the end zone and this helping the Titans get good field position. No run up to the ball before kicking off It worked the entire game until one possession. They were constantly starting behind the 25 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It worked until the last two, where Tennessee got the ball around the 35 both times. Just another weird random thing we decided to do in a game that was nonstop frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I was wondering this myself during the game. If my math is right the Titans average field position after a Bills kickoff was the 21 yard line. Gaining 4 yards of field position doesn't seem worth risking a big return (or TD), but that's just me. I like the idea of short directional kicks, but I think it works better when it's a surprise (like what the Redskins did to us). Don't do it on every single kickoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Bills thought that kicking the ball short and making Titans return would lead to poor Titans field position. s Strategy failed on Bills last kickoff and Titans started at 35. I don’t think it’s smart strategy. Titans had 2 straight drive starts at the 35. One on a return, and the other due to a penalty on Poyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, cDAVIS said: It worked the entire game until one possession. They were constantly starting behind the 25 yep, avg 20 yards a return on the first 6. Started each drive inside the 25 and there was a hold on one of them, started at the 10. Operation was a success but the patient died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Bills thought that kicking the ball short and making Titans return would lead to poor Titans field position. s Strategy failed on Bills last kickoff and Titans started at 35. I don’t think it’s smart strategy. Poor field position? Titans' drive starts after Buffalo kickoffs: 23 21 24 21 19 23 35 Any other questions? (The horrible, terrible, not very good MNF crew completely missed this. I noticed that Bass was doing a 3 step kick on the opening kickoff and watched it all game.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I thought maybe his leg was tired from so many kickoffs. One of then downsides of the number one scoring offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Agreed. And for a team that’s been as sloppy on special teams this season as this team has, just kick the ball out of the end zone. Exactly....besides Bass our ST has been awful. Haack almost had another blocked. Kickoff coverage in the 2nd half gave them amazing field position on 3 straight. Edited October 19, 2021 by LABILLBACKER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Kickoff coverage in the 2nd half gave them amazing field position on 3 straight. Which 3 of these are you referring to? 23 21 24 21 19 23 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: I would prefer he just kick it through the end zone I wonder if you felt that way last week, especially on the kick where the KC returner fumbled. It's the smart play to get the opposition to return every kick. We have a really unique kicker who's able to basically lob kicks inside the 5 yard line. The Bills are absolutely right in their strategy. Edited October 19, 2021 by QB Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: I was not impressed with every kick being short of the end zone and this helping the Titans get good field position. No run up to the ball before kicking off He was told to kick short and force return. I thought that was obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I personally loved this strategy. I would guess that 9/10 possessions for the Titans started at or before the 25. The lone exception being the one in the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: I was not impressed with every kick being short of the end zone and this helping the Titans get good field position. No run up to the ball before kicking off Obviously that was a strategy, not sure of the average drive start, but a number were not at the 25. There was one in the fourth that got out to the 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Bass’ boot is like Allen’s arm. A little ankle flick and the ***** travels 75 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Bills thought that kicking the ball short and making Titans return would lead to poor Titans field position. s Strategy failed on Bills last kickoff and Titans started at 35. I don’t think it’s smart strategy. On average, they were starting around the 20 with a quick eye test. The 35 we can call an outlier. My guess, the potential for turnovers on kick returns played a factor as well. Allow me to add, their was no hold on McKenzies TD return. Number 9 literally blocked and threw him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Billsrhody said: I personally loved this strategy. I would guess that 9/10 possessions for the Titans started at or before the 25. The lone exception being the one in the 4th quarter. Hated the strategy. Titans’ drives (Following a kickoff) started at the 10 (due to titans penalty) 21 24 21 19 33 (due to bills penalty) 35 the only way you pin them deep is if they commit a penalty. If you get them before the 25, it’s a negligible 1-6 yards behind it. Meanwhile, we give them 7 chances to return on deep or for a TD. Edited October 19, 2021 by Mantis Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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