UKBillFan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, newcam2012 said: I think the expectations going into this game were a little too high. The Bills just came off a huge emotional victory, the media attention was crowning the Bills AFC super Bowl representatives, Monday Night football game on the road, Titans are physical team which Bills tens to struggle with, and the Bills schedule to date has been pretty soft to say the least. A little too high considering the Titans couldn’t even beat the Jets and had an ever depleting secondary? Maybe (definitely) at the start of the season a close defeat would be acceptable here but now? After the performances of the Ravens and Cardinals yesterday we could have laid down a further marker - instead we look far too easy to get at once again on both sides of the ball. Yes, there should be no way we don’t make the post season considering the division and our schedule. Do I trust us to do much once we get there? No. This isn’t a single mess up like the Bucs hosting the Saints last year; we have too many issues which raise their head at the wrong time again and again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Kick the FG, go to OT... This team ain't the Lions or Jags just scrapping for a W, take the 3, trust you still have the best team on the field, the best QB on the field, the best Defense, go prove it in OT. we don't have the best D. They sucked at all levels today. And I hope they and Frazier got that message by McD going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Can someone explain to me the Diggs PI toward the end of the game….. why did it look like the interference happened at the goal line but the ball was placed on the 5? Funny, that happened twice.... the ball spotted further back than I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Yea they just showed a graphic in the post game that I'm still watching for some reason that Allen was 14 for 15 on 4th and 1 situations The whole play just looked weird. Watching it live I was like WTF. I was stunned. It looked like Allen just fell or stumbled into the line. Its always easy to play arm chair QB after the fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Honestly, there isn’t very many players on our Oline that I would build around going forward, with the exception of Brown. He’s big and physical enough to win battles enough to stick around. Dawkins can stay, but he’s on thin ice. Everyone else needs replaced. I wouldn’t even be mad if we go Oline, Oline, Oline with all 3 of our first picks next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: This will def pump the brakes on the “best team in the league” talk and “can anyone beat Buffalo?” Not a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo619 said: Off game for Josh but he makes the throws required to be great. When he gets that deer in the headlights look, thats when you worry; but he still performs. What? How was it an off game for Josh? My god... he was not the problem. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, popcornpam said: Maybe he could mix up the plays and send more players after the quarterback once in a while. McDermott is married to only sending four! Even if it doesn’t work and players are over matched. its like pre deterimine which teams they are going to bring pressure before and....and its an absolute. against baltimore last year....we blitz almost every down and im sure there were a couple games this year as well.... thats what happens when you dont totally trust your D in certain matchups... tonight was Henry. The sad thing is you can play a safe D and still get killed. we seen that against KC 3 games in a row and finally decided to change things up and it worked. Tonight was like we were playing KC again and just play contain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It did. Something felt wrong all night. It felt like a loss. Yep - dominated the first 15 min or so but up only 3. Was weird from the start. Hate to blame refs but felt like I was watching wwe - need to keep it close and exciting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Kick the FG, go to OT... This team ain't the Lions or Jags just scrapping for a W, take the 3, trust you still have the best team on the field, the best QB on the field, the best Defense, go prove it in OT. We probably didn't have the best Defense, but there's a 50-50 chance we get the ball first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Buffalo619 said: Off game for Josh but he makes the throws required to be great. When he gets that deer in the headlights look, thats when you worry; but he still performs. In what way was it an "off game for Josh"? Led the O to 31 points, had over 350 yards passing with 3 TD's and one pick. Led the Bills to the 3 yard line at the end and came within half a foot of winning the game. Allen was fantastic tonight the O-line and D not so much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Question is who was on AJ, Levi or Taron? Both did a poor job in the 2nd half. When you have bigger physical receivers, unfortunately, Wallace is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I'm not too worked up about this one. There are not many games left on the schedule that we will be underdogs. Maybe just the Bucs game. I think we made a bad decision keeping Epenesa out. The o-line played its worst game of the season. 1 yard or less QB sneak is usually a guaranteed 1st down for Allen, it just wasn't our night. All that going against us and we were still an inch away from winning. I don't see this game impacting our season at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Glad there's only one Henry in this league, but man, we'd better have our chinstraps on tighter next time. The weird thing is, even though we lost, I always felt like we were the better overall team, and moving the ball at will until the end, just kept shooting ourselves in the foot in several key situations. Hope this turns into the hail Murray effect for us, where now the bear got poked and we rattle off W's the rest of the way... Obviously, clearly the better team. I don't think that's up for debate. But we needed the win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: What? How was it an off game for Josh? My god... he was not the problem. Watch the tape - was worse than his stats. A lot of open receivers tonight. He was off. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Kick the FG, go to OT... This team ain't the Lions or Jags just scrapping for a W, take the 3, trust you still have the best team on the field, the best QB on the field, the best Defense, go prove it in OT. Titans scored on their last 6 possessions, the D game plan was trash. Going for it on 4th and inches with JA under center was the right call. Titans got lucky that Allen slipped and the online caved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Honestly, there isn’t very many players on our Oline that I would build around going forward, with the exception of Brown. He’s big and physical enough to win battles enough to stick around. Dawkins can stay, but he’s on thin ice. Everyone else needs replaced. I wouldn’t even be mad if we go Oline, Oline, Oline with all 3 of our first picks next year. totally agree. Morse is a turnstile against a physical D. Creed Humphry would have been a nice upgrade in the draft, but we took Basham, to sit him in this game. Someone needs to explain AJ and Basham not being active tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, newcam2012 said: The whole play just looked weird. Watching it live I was like WTF. I was stunned. It looked like Allen just fell or stumbled into the line. Its always easy to play arm chair QB after the fact. I knew we'd lose if we went for it even though I think it was probably the right call so I wasn't really surprised lol I'm almost happy we tried the sneak because that was the highest percentage play...if we had thrown an incompletion I wouldve lost my mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Locomark said: Put that loss on 3 factors… 1)our defense playing weak in the middle of the field due to play action 2) crucial OT mistakes - the pick tip due to Brown’s whiff and the last play due to Dawkins getting pancaked and 3) some weird coaching - picking 3rd and 7 over 2nd and 17 for a running team? Likely a 7 point swing. And likely Coach probably called that obvious last play. oh boy hadn't thought of that, i wonder if McD vetoed Daboll and called that sneak guess we will never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: What? How was it an off game for Josh? My god... he was not the problem. He struggled at times, but Oline and RBs are glaring holes on this team. Imagine if we had a top 5 RB, I’m not even sure we could be beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Golden said: He looks a bit out of shape still & was knocked backwards 3 yards on the last play. It was embarrassing, even though he was up against a good D lineman. He should own it & try to improve He's paid to be a franchise LT and got destroyed. The team and Josh put their faith in him to hold the point of attack just for a few inches and he failed miserably. Josh should've gone right away from Simmons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: In what way was it an "off game for Josh"? Led the O to 31 points, had over 350 yards passing with 3 TD's and one pick. Led the Bills to the 3 yard line at the end and came within half a foot of winning the game. Allen was fantastic tonight the O-line and D not so much. Well see half this board expect Allen to tackle Henry…cover brown…be the teams best running back…and throw for 5 touchdowns every game Edited October 19, 2021 by 78thealltimegreat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: OL also. Yes but in the end we still put up points giving up 34 is unacceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: It took a penalty that may or may not be called, and a stop at the 1/2 yard line. We had more first downs 27-15 that is a better indicator of the game play. McD would be better next time too. I'm confident we're better. So am I but they beat us twice in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: They didn’t call a single run or draw on 3rd and 7 plus all game. Because we had the beef in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Both lines are team weaknesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I'm not too worked up about this one. There are not many games left on the schedule that we will be underdogs. Maybe just the Bucs game. I think we made a bad decision keeping Epenesa out. The o-line played its worst game of the season. 1 yard or less QB sneak is usually a guaranteed 1st down for Allen, it just wasn't our night. All that going against us and we were still an inch away from winning. I don't see this game impacting our season at all. impacts us in the standings. And concerning that Allen missed a bunch of open WR's when under pressure. That's not normal. And concerning that our offense was stalled by a depleted defense in the red zone, again, we can't seem to get a TD in the red zone and it cost us the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Coaching after a brilliant game against KC.....one of the worst games ive seen coached since dick jauron I was actually concerned about this. I felt that the defense - all of it, coaches players etc - "went for the gusto" against KC. After last year's win against the Ravens, we seem to lose focus - lose physicality, not as good of a game plan, something, the following week. Maybe the D is just sore as ***** and one week isn't really enough time to recover, IDK. But it just seems like when they play out of their minds one week, they have a letdown the next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, ngbills said: We are in a group of 5 capable afc teams. Not good enough to be the best yet unfortunately. Buf, bal, kc, lac, ten are all in it Cleveland being on the outside looking in, but could spoil someone. It's all going to come down to matchups in the playoffs. Who plays who will determine what happens. I think out of that list of teams you hope to draw either Balt and Lac? On a side note, I hate myself for caring too much. It's not going to change, but I just feel dumb. I have zero control and no ability to do anything to help the Bills. (As in, I will never have a job in the organization, obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Well see half this board expect Allen to tackle Henry…cover brown…ne the teams best running back…and throw for 5 touchdowns every game Yea I think the expectations for Allen by some fans are crazy. Sure he's the 250 million man but there's only so much he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Red zone offense wasn’t good. We could have put them away early, but kicked FGs instead. Also Josh seems below average at QB sneaks. He needs to watch some Brady footage. That guy seems to convert them 100% of the time. Red zone offense has been bad all year Needs to be fixed. Teams play zone as soon as the bills get inside the red zone and Allen starts to struggle or at least get confused 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, billybob71 said: oh boy hadn't thought of that, i wonder if McD vetoed Daboll and called that sneak guess we will never know I'm fine with the sneak. I'm not fine with whatever defensive game plan we had all day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, ngbills said: Watch the tape - was worse than his stats. A lot of open receivers tonight. He was off. Man you've seen the game film huh haha how'd you get it so fast. The broadcast angle is not a great indicator of what is going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Also FFS Andre Smith how do you pull a blatent obvious holding penalty like that? Like I even noticed it halfway through the play. If we want to talk about one play that potentially cost us the game....OUCH. I'd like to blame the refs but that was obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: He struggled at times, but Oline and RBs are glaring holes on this team. Imagine if we had a top 5 RB, I’m not even sure we could be beat. He went for kill shot on 2nd to last drive. Only mistake, IMO, that he made all game with the exception of hard count at end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: totally agree. Morse is a turnstile against a physical D. Creed Humphry would have been a nice upgrade in the draft, but we took Basham, to sit him in this game. Someone needs to explain AJ and Basham not being active tonight. I’m more mad that we haven’t done enough to make Josh to stay in the pocket. Half the time he’s running or scrambling to create plays. Nothing wrong with that, but one of these times it’s going to bite us. (Injury). We need to build Josh an epic Oline so he can be Brady back there and sling it everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: Yea I think the expectations for Allen by some fans are crazy. Sure he's the 250 million man but there's only so much he can do. like find wide open WR's in the endzone? He was off tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Ugh this is hard to watch. The way the defense lined up, we convert a sneak here 98/100 times. UGHHHH Edited October 19, 2021 by Process 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 So outside of Henry's long TD run we did "hold" Henry to less then 70 yards on 19 other carries. Forgetting how to cover AJ Brown was a bigger issue. And lack of pressure which imo we were scared to unleash because of Henry's big play ability. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I don’t understand anyone who wanted to kick the FG there.. Name one contender that wouldn’t go for it.. Ravens would. Chiefs would. Chargers would. Titans would. It was the right decision. 9/10 Allen gets that, even with a blown up OL. We had to go for the win. Our defense had no answer for them. Designed a defense to stop Kansas City, but in the process, became susceptible to Tennessee (and likely Cleveland). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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