CorkScrewHill Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 "Ace Per Head" - Dolphins Talk guy discusses some concerns coming out of the Miami area as conflicts between the GM and HC develop. Story coming out that Flores preferred Herbert to Tua. In addition, Flores / Gailey did not think Tua was ready last year .. yet he was started. Love that McDermott and Beane are soooo in synch. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I hope they do a hard knocks next year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 This guy makes decent content. Not your typical Phins fan boy that makes content from a cloud of delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, TBBills said: I hope they do a hard knocks next year. So you like watching car crashes in slow motion, then? They are a mess. If this is accurate and Flores was advocating for Herbert, can you imagine what this team would've been with him as he could've covered up a lot of messes. Not that I wanted that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 It’s pretty obvious that Flores didn’t like Tua as a starter, his flaws were and are all to apparent , nice to see more internal tension on our opponents teams, 😁👍 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 He's worth watching, haven't watched this particular video but he does put out solid content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Story coming out that Flores preferred Herbert to Tua. In addition, Flores / Gailey did not think Tua was ready last year .. yet he was started Well Flores was definitely correct on that with Herbert. As for the decision to start Tua over Fitz, that was definitely a head scratcher...Lol, maybe Flores did it just to try and make a point? Edited October 1, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Well Flores was definitely correct on that with Herbert. As for the decision to start Tua over Fitz, that was definitely a head scratcher...Lol, maybe Flores did it just to try and make a point? It would be even better if the direction came from the owner. I know several dolfans and they can't stand Ross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: This guy makes decent content. Not your typical Phins fan boy that makes content from a cloud of delusion. Agreed. If there is a Civil War in the “Findom” I’d be happy to have him jump on our bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Theyre just looking for people to blame..before they all reported Ross forced them to draft Tua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 It is awesome to not have drama like that in the organization for a change. Feels almost refreshing to poke fun at other teams misery. And I wouldn’t even say that Beane and McDermott are in sync as much as they share a common goal and know each other’s preferences/abilities. They’re not step brothers, but i’d like to imagine they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I think the only thing preventing Ross from demanding Grier deal for Watson is the uncertainty of Watsons ever playing again. Should Watson put his legal issues behind him, Grier will have to obtain Watson or find another job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 The Dolphins have been dysfunctional since Adam Gase was hired as head coach. The Jets have been dysfunctional since Rex Ryan was head coach, and so far conclusive evidence that it's over is lacking. Things are getting more dysfunctional by the minute at Foxboro. Meanwhile at OBD things are humming along like a well oiled machine. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: "Ace Per Head" - Dolphins Talk guy discusses some concerns coming out of the Miami area as conflicts between the GM and HC develop. Story coming out that Flores preferred Herbert to Tua. In addition, Flores / Gailey did not think Tua was ready last year .. yet he was started. Love that McDermott and Beane are soooo in synch. Haa! Hindsight is 20/20. Of course everyone wanted Herbert. Of course Tua wasn't ready last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Haa! Hindsight is 20/20. Of course everyone wanted Herbert. Of course Tua wasn't ready last year. Finger pointing is a sure sign of dysfunction. Jobs are on the line and knives are out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 58 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Well Flores was definitely correct on that with Herbert. As for the decision to start Tua over Fitz, that was definitely a head scratcher...Lol, maybe Flores did it just to try and make a point? Which one decided not to invest in the OL? Even Herbert would look like donkey-doo behind that line. Thats the problem. That and they signed a WR that doesn't play..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I’ve been following this story quite a bit as members of my family are Dolphins fans. The entire handling of Tua has been completely odd right down to putting him on IR for an injury that was listed day-to-day. What is strange is the Miami fan base who seems completely delusional. Most are completely behind Tua and think that the OL and lack of running game has let him down. If I had to take a poll, I’d guess somewhere in the high 60%’ would take Tua over DeShaun Watson. They are cool with Flores but want Grier fired for his bad drafting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 They seem to be teetering on edge of being good to falling over the cliff. Seems like an awful lot of turnover on the roster from year to year. Flores seems to be a solid coach although I must say that having two OCs this year is head scratching at best and don’t see Tua getting better at lol this year or the future. Looks like back to the QB dart board again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Which one decided not to invest in the OL? Even Herbert would look like donkey-doo behind that line. Thats the problem. That and they signed a WR that doesn't play..... The fish have invested a ton of high draft picks on the o-line. The problem is that the guys they’ve picked aren’t any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Which one decided not to invest in the OL? Even Herbert would look like donkey-doo behind that line. Thats the problem. That and they signed a WR that doesn't play..... I would guess the GM. Since he decided to disregard HC Flores when wanting Herbert for his QB and instead took Tua. I agree with you that their OL is struggling, however I do think Herbert would still do better than Tua behind that bad OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ProcessAccepted said: This guy makes decent content. Not your typical Phins fan boy that makes content from a cloud of delusion. It makes sense on way he presents stuff that he came from education. He can be a fan boy when things are going well but does not pull his punches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 They're a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 They almost beat the Raiders with a back-up QB in LV. They can’t be that bad. But it does appear they are still in QB purgatory for awhile. And worse, they are good enough to win a fair amount of games so no super high draft pick. I wonder what that is like…oh wait. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 5 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: They almost beat the Raiders with a back-up QB in LV. They can’t be that bad. Most games are "close" in the NFL. Miami was gifted some big time luck at the end of that game (stunning) in order to tie it. Some fluky stuff like a long 4th down conversion and maybe a DPI at the goal line if I remember. Whatever. They don't pass the eye test as a team that looks close to being a SB contender. Now maybe that's because deep down they know the QB situation might just make them feel hopeless. Shoot, Flores and the Front Office are flat out giving that impression. That's just a recipe for disaster that's not how you build a culture. They need to take their talent and believe what they have is good enough and compete. Here is the best comp I can give for this. The Broncos with Tebow. The culture and winning mentality (not at the expense of throwing teammates under the bus and infighting over missed personnel decisions) set the tone for Manning to come in and get them to their championship. No one on the 2011 team wallowed about being limited because of Tebow. Miami is not the 2012 Broncos. They're losers. All of them. Great talent in the secondary no doubt. And that's about it. Tua deserved better then the *lack* of support he's gotten there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 They're a good QB away from being relevant. It's all QB and Tua isn't it, don't kid yourselves. But if they do win the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes the tone here changes overnight, guaranteed. Waddle, Parker, Gesicki just need somebody who can throw and that defense shouldn't be as awful as they looked during their meltdown against us in Week 2. Definitely better than the Jets. A semi-decent QB away from being better than the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Nelius said: They're a good QB away from being relevant. It's all QB and Tua isn't it, don't kid yourselves. But if they do win the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes the tone here changes overnight, guaranteed. Waddle, Parker, Gesicki just need somebody who can throw and that defense shouldn't be as awful as they looked during their meltdown against us in Week 2. Definitely better than the Jets. A semi-decent QB away from being better than the Pats. Not sustainable. Ross is the problem, he is an awful awful meddler. I lived in South Florida from 2012-2020, it's talked about on local radio, they're just so irrelevant that it doesn't make national news much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Miami is such a weirdly built team. They have two highly paid corners and one the most expensive WR rooms in the NFL. Their o line is laughably bad and they can’t run the ball. I honestly couldn’t name a LB. like what does the media see? It’s a poorly constructed team that has absolutely no faith in the QB Tua vs Herbert is pretty obvious now, but it should have been to an NFL team in the draft. Tua had a pretty serious injury and was never a dominant athlete anyway. You want to risk a top 5 pick on a guy like that? When there’s another QB with elite physical tools in the draft? I would have taken Herbert and hoped he could figure out how to play at the next level than take a guy with an average arm, and a a serious hip injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 The Dolphins are not the dysfunctional misfits of the Adam Gase variety any more. They're very close to being good. They're playing hard for Flores. Tua struck me as an odd pick. A great leader with just OK talent and a risky injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Nelius said: They're a good QB away from being relevant. It's all QB and Tua isn't it, don't kid yourselves. But if they do win the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes the tone here changes overnight, guaranteed. Waddle, Parker, Gesicki just need somebody who can throw and that defense shouldn't be as awful as they looked during their meltdown against us in Week 2. Definitely better than the Jets. A semi-decent QB away from being better than the Pats. They’re dysfunctional. A bunch of talent doesn’t equal a good team. Flores is overrated. Whether he wanted Herbert or not, he should have played Fitz last year and let Tua sit and learn. This season he has some sort of three-headed offensive coaching cadre that makes no sense. They are a mess. Yes, a good QB helps to hide flaws (see: Bills OL) but the problems in South Beach run deeper than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 15 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: The Dolphins have been dysfunctional since Adam Gase was hired as head coach. The Jets have been dysfunctional since Rex Ryan was head coach, and so far conclusive evidence that it's over is lacking. Things are getting more dysfunctional by the minute at Foxboro. Meanwhile at OBD things are humming along like a well oiled machine. Can't believe I'm defending Rex Ryan, but the Jets did make back to back AFC Championship games with him as HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Miami is such a weirdly built team. They have two highly paid corners and one the most expensive WR rooms in the NFL. Their o line is laughably bad and they can’t run the ball. I honestly couldn’t name a LB. like what does the media see? It’s a poorly constructed team that has absolutely no faith in the QB Tua vs Herbert is pretty obvious now, but it should have been to an NFL team in the draft. Tua had a pretty serious injury and was never a dominant athlete anyway. You want to risk a top 5 pick on a guy like that? When there’s another QB with elite physical tools in the draft? I would have taken Herbert and hoped he could figure out how to play at the next level than take a guy with an average arm, and a a serious hip injury. They couldn’t ignore the Tua hype train, and now it’s biting them in the ass...Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTLBillsfan Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Word around here is that Greer is on the hot seat. Many of his recent draft pics have not performed to the level that would be expected of them. The Greer / Flores situation reminds me of the Whaley / Ryan era we went through. As a previous poster pointed out, thank God we have a coach and GM on the same page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightRider Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 15 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: The Dolphins have been dysfunctional since Adam Gase was hired as head coach. The Jets have been dysfunctional since Rex Ryan was head coach, and so far conclusive evidence that it's over is lacking. Things are getting more dysfunctional by the minute at Foxboro. Meanwhile at OBD things are humming along like a well oiled machine. I tend to think organizational dysfunction originates from the ownership group. The Pats* were like that till the Krafts bought them in 1994, but were the laughingstock of the league in the late 80s when Victor Kiam owned it. I suspect it is no accident the Fish have made the playoffs only once since Ross bought them in 2009. Woody Johnson’s tenure as owner of the Jets also supports my opinion. Are there exceptions to this? Sometimes! While I think Ralph was great for the AFL/NFL as a league, I think he was not terribly good as an owner. When he allowed Polian to run it though, it flourished. Rich guys get that way because they made the decisions. It’s hard to allow someone else to make them… On the football side, the Pegullas seem to be pretty good owners! This stadium drama reminds me of the one the Krafts had before Gillette was built. What does not fit is the absolute cluster the Sabres have become. Maybe Terry only meddles with the on ice product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, mannc said: The fish have invested a ton of high draft picks on the o-line. The problem is that the guys they’ve picked aren’t any good. And the one that was good, they traded away despite being so young for some reason. Edited October 2, 2021 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 The latest beatdown .. is not going to make things more comfortable .. that is for sure https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-insider-notes-dolphins-in-disarray-after-another-lackluster-loss-and-more-from-week-4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: The latest beatdown .. is not going to make things more comfortable .. that is for sure https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-insider-notes-dolphins-in-disarray-after-another-lackluster-loss-and-more-from-week-4/ might be another home laugher on Halloween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 10:02 AM, KnightRider said: What does not fit is the absolute cluster the Sabres have become. Maybe Terry only meddles with the on ice product. Terry is in charge of Sabres; Kim for Bills - she is even one who attends NFL meetings and on committees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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