RobbRiddick Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Didn't see any mention of this when I did a search. Davis questionable, as is Star and Obada. Real shame about Davis if he can't go. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/bills-gabe-davis-star-lotulelei-and-efe-obada-listed-as-questionable/article_8b80d310-1800-11ec-a58e-83b5436f198a.html The Buffalo Bills have listed wide receiver Gabriel Davis (ankle), defensive tackle Star Lotulelei (calf) and defensive end Efe Obada (calf) as questionable for Sunday’s game against the Miami Dolphins. Obada was newly added as limited to the injury report Friday. Davis did not participate Wednesday, and was limited Thursday and Friday. Lotulelei was a full participant Friday, after two days of being limited. He was not active in Week 1 after he was injured in the preseason finale against the Green Bay Packers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The Bills have a very deep and talented receiver corps. Davis is a burgeoning star and he's better than the people who will replace him if he can't go, but those replacements are very, very good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: Didn't see any mention of this when I did a search. Davis questionable, as is Star and Obada. Real shame about Davis if he can't go. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/bills-gabe-davis-star-lotulelei-and-efe-obada-listed-as-questionable/article_8b80d310-1800-11ec-a58e-83b5436f198a.html The Buffalo Bills have listed wide receiver Gabriel Davis (ankle), defensive tackle Star Lotulelei (calf) and defensive end Efe Obada (calf) as questionable for Sunday’s game against the Miami Dolphins. Obada was newly added as limited to the injury report Friday. Davis did not participate Wednesday, and was limited Thursday and Friday. Lotulelei was a full participant Friday, after two days of being limited. He was not active in Week 1 after he was injured in the preseason finale against the Green Bay Packers. All the injury stuff is always posted in the game week thread pinned at the top of the board, including this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Yes REAL shame if Davis can’t go. If star and Obada can’t, it won’t affect the outcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 We can make it without Davis to make sure he’s healthy, but he’s definitely an add to the offense. If Star was a full participant Friday, they are probably going to use him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Utah John said: The Bills have a very deep and talented receiver corps. Davis is a burgeoning star and he's better than the people who will replace him if he can't go, but those replacements are very, very good. In most cases I suspect his replacement will be giving more reps to the guys above him not below 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Really would like Davis out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Didn't see any mention of this when I did a search. Davis questionable, as is Star and Obada. Real shame about Davis if he can't go. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/bills-gabe-davis-star-lotulelei-and-efe-obada-listed-as-questionable/article_8b80d310-1800-11ec-a58e-83b5436f198a.html The Buffalo Bills have listed wide receiver Gabriel Davis (ankle), defensive tackle Star Lotulelei (calf) and defensive end Efe Obada (calf) as questionable for Sunday’s game against the Miami Dolphins. Obada was newly added as limited to the injury report Friday. Davis did not participate Wednesday, and was limited Thursday and Friday. Lotulelei was a full participant Friday, after two days of being limited. He was not active in Week 1 after he was injured in the preseason finale against the Green Bay Packers. If Davis or Star plays I will be shocked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Hopefully this forces Daboll into more 3 WR sets. Davis is interchangeable with Sanders and they can go with Kumerow in 4 WR sets if they want size or McKenzie if they want speed/trickery. Not saying he is not a good player but they have options - very good ones if he can not play. Really want to see what Oliver can do with Star lined up next to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 He’s going to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Hopefully this forces Daboll into more 3 WR sets. Davis is interchangeable with Sanders and they can go with Kumerow in 4 WR sets if they want size or McKenzie if they want speed/trickery. Not saying he is not a good player but they have options - very good ones if he can not play. Really want to see what Oliver can do with Star lined up next to him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The injury that concerns me is Obada. He's new on the injury report as of Friday. He seems like a very hard working guy who has flashed some, so I'd hate to see an injury derail his season. Whatever it is, if it would be better for him to take a week off and "get right" I hope that's the decision. Related concern for Davis. Hope that he will "get right" and not try to soldier through an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The injury that concerns me is Obada. He's new on the injury report as of Friday. He seems like a very hard working guy who has flashed some, so I'd hate to see an injury derail his season. Whatever it is, if it would be better for him to take a week off and "get right" I hope that's the decision. Related concern for Davis. Hope that he will "get right" and not try to soldier through an injury. If Star can play it will he very interesting to see who dresses. If Obada can't go you might see them sit Obada and maybe Zimmer. Then dress Basham who can play inside and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 This is the only plus I can take away as far as signing Sanders is in the event of injury to other receivers. He's a nice compliment to have out there. I still would've preferred using that money on a CB2 though.😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Utah John said: The Bills have a very deep and talented receiver corps. Davis is a burgeoning star and he's better than the people who will replace him if he can't go, but those replacements are very, very good. Bills fans overrate the quality of this WR corps. Look around the league. More WR talent everywhere than there has ever been. The Bills are always a Stefon Diggs injury from being a mediocre or worse WR corps because they otherwise lack explosive qualities. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Hopefully this forces Daboll into more 3 WR sets. Davis is interchangeable with Sanders and they can go with Kumerow in 4 WR sets if they want size or McKenzie if they want speed/trickery. Not saying he is not a good player but they have options - very good ones if he can not play. Really want to see what Oliver can do with Star lined up next to him. I wish we had a better TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Bills fans overrate the quality of this WR corps. Look around the league. More WR talent everywhere than there has ever been. The Bills are always a Stefon Diggs injury from being a mediocre or worse WR corps because they otherwise lack explosive qualities. Is there anything you don’t think stinks? Can you explain why oxygen is overrated? 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Davis played roughly 50% of offensive snaps in week 1. I wonder if this was due to injury or I intentional based on the personnel. Either way, the Bills should be well equipped to fill this role. That being said, I think Davis has a legit chance to be the #2 for buffalo for the next few seasons. He has made highlight worth grabs, week after week. He is a big body, does well with the dee ball and seems like a high character guy that McD likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 7 hours ago, JaCrispy said: If Davis or Star plays I will be shocked... Pleasantly though ? 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Bills fans overrate the quality of this WR corps. Look around the league. More WR talent everywhere than there has ever been. The Bills are always a Stefon Diggs injury from being a mediocre or worse WR corps because they otherwise lack explosive qualities. Oh Boo Badol. not true This is the best WR core , depth included Bills have had in decades 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 39 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Is there anything you don’t think stinks? Can you explain why oxygen is overrated? It keeps mouth breathers alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I think Davis is a pretty good young player who can be a very good WR2 for many years to come. I'm not a huge Sanders fan. He's on what - his 5th team? His 3rd team in a year and a half? If he was that much of a world beater, teams would not be so quick to move on from him. He's also 34 years old and has likely lost a step. I don't think he's a bad player or a bad signing, but I see him more as veteran WR depth than a focal point of the offense. He can play inside or outside, which adds great flexibility to the team. If both were 100% healthly and I had I had to choose bewteen having Davis or Sanders play, I would go with Davis. If Davis is out this week, I will be glad we have Sanders. If Sanders ends up having a huge season, perhaps I will be proven wrong and I will be very happy if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I think Davis is a pretty good young player who can be a very good WR2 for many years to come. I'm not a huge Sanders fan. He's on what - his 5th team? His 3rd team in a year and a half? If he was that much of a world beater, teams would not be so quick to move on from him. He's also 34 years old and has likely lost a step. I don't think he's a bad player or a bad signing, but I see him more as veteran WR depth than a focal point of the offense. He can play inside or outside, which adds great flexibility to the team. If both were 100% healthly and I had I had to choose bewteen having Davis or Sanders play, I would go with Davis. If Davis is out this week, I will be glad we have Sanders. If Sanders ends up having a huge season, perhaps I will be proven wrong and I will be very happy if that happens. Josh has given a lot of receivers career years. Maybe Sanders will get a career year too. He isn't great but he is solid. Better than a lot of other bums that came through here. Edited September 18, 2021 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Oh Boo Badol. not true This is the best WR core , depth included Bills have had in decades What does that actually say? Their WR corps has been mostly total shite since they broke up the explosive 2002 group when trading Peerless Price. The league has changed A LOT since then. It's about their positioning relative to the rest of the league. There are WR corps around the league with multiple superstar WR options AND also then depth to boot. The Bills aren't one of those. Stef Diggs is their best WR since Andre Reed...........but the Bills WR corps as a unit are Steffy Diggs and the Pipps. A star and a bunch of harmonized one-notes picked to run a Patriots style offense. Not much speed, very little RAC ability. Also they are perilously thin at TE and they have no receiving threat out of the backfield. IMO the best WR corps they have had since Goodell legislated hitting out of the passing game(2010) is the one they started the season with last year. Healthier, younger and more diverse because they had more speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Is there anything you don’t think stinks? Can you explain why oxygen is overrated? Don't get me started on oxygen. Do you know it's one of the main reasons for the forest fires out west! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Is tomorrow Jake “the snake” Kumerow time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: What does that actually say? Their WR corps has been mostly total shite since they broke up the explosive 2002 group when trading Peerless Price. The league has changed A LOT since then. It's about their positioning relative to the rest of the league. There are WR corps around the league with multiple superstar WR options AND also then depth to boot. The Bills aren't one of those. Stef Diggs is their best WR since Andre Reed...........but the Bills WR corps as a unit are Steffy Diggs and the Pipps. A star and a bunch of harmonized one-notes picked to run a Patriots style offense. Not much speed, very little RAC ability. Also they are perilously thin at TE and they have no receiving threat out of the backfield. IMO the best WR corps they have had since Goodell legislated hitting out of the passing game(2010) is the one they started the season with last year. Healthier, younger and more diverse because they had more speed. I appreciate your sincere opinions Badol 5 minutes ago, CSBill said: Is tomorrow Jake “the snake” Kumerow time? Let Josh feed them all. or whoever is open. even the check downs and RB who come off the block please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: What does that actually say? Their WR corps has been mostly total shite since they broke up the explosive 2002 group when trading Peerless Price. The league has changed A LOT since then. It's about their positioning relative to the rest of the league. There are WR corps around the league with multiple superstar WR options AND also then depth to boot. The Bills aren't one of those. Stef Diggs is their best WR since Andre Reed...........but the Bills WR corps as a unit are Steffy Diggs and the Pipps. A star and a bunch of harmonized one-notes picked to run a Patriots style offense. Not much speed, very little RAC ability. Also they are perilously thin at TE and they have no receiving threat out of the backfield. IMO the best WR corps they have had since Goodell legislated hitting out of the passing game(2010) is the one they started the season with last year. Healthier, younger and more diverse because they had more speed. It is that way everywhere. Take Davante Adams off the Packers and a very good receiving core becomes substandard. that stud elevates everyone since every position gets to play one position down in the opponents depth roster. Rarely there may be a number two good enough but unlikely the three or four excels facing better coverage. Edited September 19, 2021 by Coastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Bills fans overrate the quality of this WR corps. Look around the league. More WR talent everywhere than there has ever been. The Bills are always a Stefon Diggs injury from being a mediocre or worse WR corps because they otherwise lack explosive qualities. Any team losing its #1 is going to take a major hit. But no, mediocre is absolutely overstating it. Even without Diggs our group is strong. Sanders, Beasley and Davis is a good trio. Kumerow is solid for a #4. Take away everyone's top #1 and this group would be top ten in what's left. Probably well inside it. It's true they don't have a lot of pure speed there, but they have gone with great route-running in the belief it fits Allen's skillset. They've still got that with this group. Allen would be just fine throwing to them. Edited September 19, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Bills fans overrate the quality of this WR corps. Look around the league. More WR talent everywhere than there has ever been. The Bills are always a Stefon Diggs injury from being a mediocre or worse WR corps because they otherwise lack explosive qualities. When it was just Cole and John Brown it was an above average group. Now it is elite when you add Diggs and Davis. Obviously if you lose the NFL leader in yards and catches it drops quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, Coastie said: It is that way everywhere. Take Davante Adams off the Packers and a very good receiving core becomes substandard. that stud elevates everyone since every position gets to play one position down in the opponents depth roster. Rarely there may be a number two good enough but unlikely the three or four excels facing better coverage. Everywhere, huh? Is it like that with Julio Jones and AJ Brown? Or Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf? Or if it's just receiving threats.......what about Tyreke and Kelce? Or with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Antonio Brown and Gronk? There are a lot of teams with 1A and 1B.......and sometimes even a 1C or 1D. The Bills have a nice WR corps but they are certainly in a different tier in terms of playmaking ability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 5 hours ago, msw2112 said: I think Davis is a pretty good young player who can be a very good WR2 for many years to come. I'm not a huge Sanders fan. He's on what - his 5th team? His 3rd team in a year and a half? If he was that much of a world beater, teams would not be so quick to move on from him. He's also 34 years old and has likely lost a step. I don't think he's a bad player or a bad signing, but I see him more as veteran WR depth than a focal point of the offense. He can play inside or outside, which adds great flexibility to the team. If both were 100% healthly and I had I had to choose bewteen having Davis or Sanders play, I would go with Davis. If Davis is out this week, I will be glad we have Sanders. If Sanders ends up having a huge season, perhaps I will be proven wrong and I will be very happy if that happens. Sanders was traded from Denver to San Francisco during the 2019 season for a 3rd and a 4th round pick with a 5th back because SF thought a quality WR to pair with Samuel was a missing piece that would help lift the team. SF went 13-3 and got to the Superbowl that year. Arguably Sanders 50.2 ypg and 67.9% catch % had something to do with that. And a 3rd and 4th, even with a 5th in change, is a pretty good price to pay for a half-year rental of a 32 yr old guy who "teams are quick to move on from". It's rumored the Bills had tried to trade for him but didn't want to pay that price. After that, though, Sanders was a FA. It's rumored again that the Bills were interested but traded for Diggs instead, so he chose to go to NO and have Drew Brees throwing to him instead of Jimmy Garappolo. I'm not sure what lay behind releasing Sanders this off-season, but they cleared $6.4M of cap by releasing him and I believe they were tight on the cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Utah John said: The Bills have a very deep and talented receiver corps. Davis is a burgeoning star and he's better than the people who will replace him if he can't go, but those replacements are very, very good. Everyone says this. I don't see it. They are always hurt. Beasley too. Without Allen rushing, most defenses are competitive against them. I don't think they have what it takes to go against the best defenses and win the game on their own. 2nd week at Miami. That's going be a tough one. The game down there is always brutal regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Gabe's incredible fingertip TD catch vs Miami changed the outcome of that game last year. And the Colts playoff game is an L without him. Get well soon dude, you're our secret weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Da webster guy said: Gabe's incredible fingertip TD catch vs Miami changed the outcome of that game last year. And the Colts playoff game is an L without him. Get well soon dude, you're our secret weapon. I have a feeling will see Gabe in this game , not only that but he’ll catch a 24 yard TD pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 15 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Don't get me started on oxygen. Do you know it's one of the main reasons for the forest fires out west! Oxygen, get to much it gets you high, not enough and you’re gonna die…, Now heat and humidity, that’s a different story altogether…, Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I don't think many go 4 and 5 deep as strong as the Bills. I went through in a bit of depth in the offseason. But there are a fair few more where I would say the #1 and #2 options are stronger. My views on the Sanders acquisition are pretty well known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think many go 4 and 5 deep as strong as the Bills. I went through in a bit of depth in the offseason. But there are a fair few more where I would say the #1 and #2 options are stronger. My views on the Sanders acquisition are pretty well known. Davis is a big key going forward.........they didn't invest a high pick in him and they haven't otherwise grabbed any of the dynamic young talent from recent drafts that teams have been loading up on. A few years ago the Bills WR corps would definitely be "elite"...........now its gotta' be considered a notch below that because of the lack of a 1B option. What they do have that some others do not is a QB who can make throws that allow them to make catches on routes that aren't actually "open" for most QB's. Davis has been the beneficiary of a few of those. Allen has really elevated the WR corps above the sum of their parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Davis is a big key going forward.........they didn't invest a high pick in him and they haven't otherwise grabbed any of the dynamic young talent from recent drafts that teams have been loading up on. A few years ago the Bills WR corps would definitely be "elite"...........now its gotta' be considered a notch below that because of the lack of a 1B option. What they do have that some others do not is a QB who can make throws that allow them to make catches on routes that aren't actually "open" for most QB's. Davis has been the beneficiary of a few of those. Allen has really elevated the WR corps above the sum of their parts. Davis is definitely huge going forward. I thought he was a steal where the Bills got him. His natural talent is greater than that of a 4th round pick and the areas of his game game that needed further development were things thar are improvable. I fully expect him to develop into a high end #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Davis is definitely huge going forward. I thought he was a steal where the Bills got him. His natural talent is greater than that of a 4th round pick and the areas of his game game that needed further development were things thar are improvable. I fully expect him to develop into a high end #2. I'm starting to be a little concerned about the availability portion of the equation with Davis though. But that will happen when a player finishes their rookie season limping off the field and then starts year 2 that way as well. Edited September 19, 2021 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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