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I edited this to reflect that the seeds are based on twitter followers who associate with the team .. this is not a Fox issue it is an issue with me not reading. There is some interesting exchanges on fanbases, but overall a very bad post from me. My apologies.

 

Anyway Go Bills!

 

https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Patience said:

Top five fan bases: Buffalo, Green Bay, Cleveland, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh.  Has been that way for decades and it remains the same.  

 

Giants have to be on that list. They have always been sold out (same for the Jets as well). During the 70's they were awful but still packed Giants Stadium. I know they got rid of blacking out home games in the local market but even when that was around the Giants and Jets never had a blacked out home game.

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I read this news and I am outraged.

 

So much so I will physically fight someone in defense of our fair team, and city's, honor and if need be I will willingly die* for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(* I will not die for it, are you kidding me?  Most of you around here don't even like me and I am going to die for your pride?  Get bent!  If put under any sort of physical duress I will most assuredly plead for my very life, possible cry, and most definitely p*** myself in the hopes that those standing over me will take pity on this poor excuse for a man.  GO BILLS, though! )

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1 minute ago, Greg S said:

 

Giants have to be on that list. They have always been sold out (same for the Jets as well). During the 70's they were awful but still packed Giants Stadium. I know they got rid of blacking out home games in the local market but even when that was around the Giants and Jets never had a blacked out home game.

 

Which fan base would you take out to include them?

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2 minutes ago, Patience said:

Top five fan bases: Buffalo, Green Bay, Cleveland, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh.  Has been that way for decades and it remains the same.  

Agree with that list with Baltimore, WFT, New Orleans, Denver, Seattle and maybe even the Giants in the discussion too.

Don't know about teams like Tenn and even the Bears these days. 

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1 minute ago, Patience said:

 

Which fan base would you take out to include them?

 

That's a good question. Probably KC or Buffalo to be honest. Both the Chiefs and Bills didn't always sellout. For the Bills look at the attendance during the 70's and mid 80's. It was the same thing for KC during that time as well. Both teams played to crowds around 20,000 or less many times. The Giants have been sold out forever.

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23 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

That's a good question. Probably KC or Buffalo to be honest. Both the Chiefs and Bills didn't always sellout. For the Bills look at the attendance during the 70's and mid 80's. It was the same thing for KC during that time as well. Both teams played to crowds around 20,000 or less many times. The Giants have been sold out forever.

 

I don't agree, but that's a good argument for including them.  

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I can't think of anything more silly than attempting to determine the best fan base in football by polling everybody on social media.

It's great for the website, sure. It drives clicks and viewer engagement and gets everyone arguing and re-tweeting and yelling at each other on "First Take". But as an actual means of determining how good a fan base is? Clown shoes.

We alllllll know where Bills fans rank. Fox Sports can run a poll a month until Jesus returns to the earth, and it won't change a thing. Clown shoes.

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54 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

They have the Cowboys as a 1 seed. I lived for a time in Dallas and went to a Cowboys game in Dallas .. they are a lifeless bunch of fair weather fans. They have the Texans as a 3 seed going up against the Bills as a 6 seed in round 1 - that is just insulting. The Bills out polled them 90.2 percent to 9.8%. I get that it is a meaningless poll, but sometimes this lack of respect kind of ticks me off. 

 

Go Bills!

 

https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/

 

 

 

Yeah, it has us up against the Houston Texans, with them as a higher-rated seed which is on the surface, patently absurd. Has anyone ever met a Texans fan? However, it's the 4th biggest city in the country, so there are probably lots of people who put it reflexively on their Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook pages that they are a Texans fan in their bio without truly caring. However, being a Bills fan runs in the blood. Fox Sports could have at least matched us up with a different 3 seed as they know we are a much more frenzied and vocal fanbase (as that very Tweet makes clear) and making us an underdog to an expansion team that hasn't really found a huge footing yet is a bit insulting. Ultimately, it won't matter, because as a poster said upthread, we always wind up winning or placing in these things. It's a dumb metric though. For one things, in onboarding/unboxing, Twitter is more likely to recommend you either local teams or someone like the Dallas Cowboys or Green Bay Packers and passive fans will just say "sure". Also, it hardly measures the intensity of the fandom. I'm pretty positive if they measured it using an algorithm that took into account mentions or length of threads when teams are being talked about, we'd be higher up on the list. Just look what happens anytime anyone says a slightly bad thing about us on Twitter. Prognosticators will often apologize in advance or joke "Bills Mafia, don't come after me" when they say something slightly negative about our team.   

 

For a few years, I ran the content at a relatively short-lived social media site where you could "check-in" to things, mostly TV, and discuss them but since live sports have become one of the few major drivers of appointment television, NFL teams were a major component. It would always surprise me and depress me a bit how little chatter and how few check-ins there were on the Bills page and I would try to do what I could to juice conversation to no avail. However, I knew it had nothing to do with the ferocity of our fanbase (even if at the time we were over a decade into the drought), but had more to do with the quirks of the medium.  

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Beast said:

20th?

 

 

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Lol, wonder how they come up with these types of things. Those few other times that best or most loyal fan bases were ranked, I believe Bills fans were always one of the top if I remember correctly. So don't know how they determine this kind of stuff, but 20-24th seems a little off when looking at the ones before.

 

Either way, still seems kinda meaningless

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At this point we all know the fan base the Bills have. When I saw the thread name I immediately thought of that wolves vs sheep analogy. Wolves don’t worry about the opinions of sheep. Bills fans are certainly wolves, fox sports are definitely the sheep 

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2 hours ago, Patience said:

Top five fan bases: Buffalo, Green Bay, Cleveland, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh.  Has been that way for decades and it remains the same.  

 

I don't particularly disagree.  In fact, I think this is a pretty good Top Five list.  

 

I just want to point out that I currently live in KC and don't find the fans here to be as rabid as Bills fans.  They don't wear their colors as much.  They don't decorate their cars with team paraphernalia as much.  They don't jump through flaming tables for their team.  And so on.  

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Fox is as Fox does, no shocker with that outfit…, 

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3 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

Giants have to be on that list. They have always been sold out (same for the Jets as well). During the 70's they were awful but still packed Giants Stadium. I know they got rid of blacking out home games in the local market but even when that was around the Giants and Jets never had a blacked out home game.

 

Umm, they have just a wee bit larger population base to draw from…

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Colin Cowherd, all the Jim Rome leftover/wannabees (Ben Maller, JT the Brick, Dan Byers), are all big-city LA Honks. 

 

They hate small market cities, especially in the rust belt. 

 

For them it's LA, Miami and nobody else really matters. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

They have the Patriots as a #1 seed. Most of those "fans" are cheering for the Bucs nowadays.

 

Garbage poll.

 

I mean, that immediately delegitimizes a poll like that.

 

It's like they base it on traditionally "good" teams.  If Pats fans had to go through the kind of drought the Bills did, about 75% of them would have been on to the Sox or Celtics by now.  

 

There is no comparison.  

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1 minute ago, Success said:

 

I mean, that immediately delegitimizes a poll like that.

 

It's like they base it on traditionally "good" teams.  If Pats fans had to go through the kind of drought the Bills did, about 75% of them would have been on to the Sox or Celtics by now.  

 

There is no comparison.  

 

If you mention Steve Grogan or Andre Tippett to a Pats fan most would have no idea who that is. Their "hard core" LOL fanbase thinks Pats football started with Parcells and Bledsoe.

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5 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

They have the Cowboys as a 1 seed. I lived for a time in Dallas and went to a Cowboys game in Dallas .. they are a lifeless bunch of fair weather fans. They have the Texans as a 3 seed going up against the Bills as a 6 seed in round 1 - that is just insulting. The Bills out polled them 90.2 percent to 9.8%. I get that it is a meaningless poll, but sometimes this lack of respect kind of ticks me off. 

 

Go Bills!

 

https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/

 

 

 

Nice of them to give Buffalo a bye in the first round.   Are there even Texan fans left anymore?

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There is us, Cleveland and Pittsburgh… 

 

Those are by far the most hardcore fan bases, and it’s not even close.  In terms of diehard devotion to the team, their only rivals would be the “supporters” (as they call themselves) of British football clubs.

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