Ray Stonada Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 We have an embarrassment of riches at receiver. I've read lots of great posts about our final 53, debating whether we should carry 7 WRs. However, it seems to be assumed that Kumerow should be on the 53. For a while, I assumed that too. But then I thought about it and wondered, why am I so high on Kumerow? Yes, I loved seeing his hair swoop and felt great for Touchdown Jesus as he made his only catch last season, in the blowout of the Broncos. But he has played four seasons and his career stats are 21 catches for 344 yards and 3 TDs. He is 6'4" but pretty light at 210 pounds, so he isn't going to outmuscle cornerbacks. At the same time, he's no burner and never seems to get wide open. Nor does he have exceptional route-running or quickness. And lately he's been dropping balls that look pretty catchable, which if you aren't a separation receiver, is not gonna work. Okay, Aaron Rodgers once said he likes him, but that's not really enough, is it? There seems to be a kind of groupthink love for Kumerow which has developed. I was part of it too. But I don't see it borne out by his performance. Trying to look at it objectively, it makes more sense to carry 6 wide receivers but keep Stevenson, who can also take over if McKenzie keeps muffing punts, and serves as a deep threat. Am I missing something here? 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 We just get a snapshot in the preseason games so I rely more on practice reports. He's standing out as the clear #6 at this point from all accounts and can play special teams which is huge with the coaching staff. We could IR Stevenson and Hogkins to see where they're at next year. 2 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) No I think if Stevenson is healthy then Kumerow is one of the obvious people whose roster spot he could take. He isn't the only guy... they could cut Taiwan Jones and use Kumerow full time as a gunner as I think many fans would like (though the continued sitting of Jones alongside players assured of their roster spot makes me think this is very unlikely). They could also go with only two frontline tight ends - Knox and Hollister - given that they have Gilliam who can do that job too, Sweeney is hurt again and they have nobody else on the squad at tight end worth rostering. They could cut Matt Brieda, go with Singletary and Moss and then both Gilliam and Jones as break glass in case of emergency backs. Or they could save a spot on defense cutting from the DL or the linebacking unit... but those are two really strong, deep positions on the roster as well and so you end up robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's tough because Kumerow is the 6th best receiver on the team right now. But Stevenson as a developmental guy both as a receiver and a returner is unlikely to make it through waivers with what he put on film on Saturday. Are they willing to risk that for a 29 year old journeyman with the numbers you quoted above? Not sure they are. Edited August 23, 2021 by GunnerBill 2 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I need to get my eyes checked. A quick glance at the thread title, and I thought someone had made a deal for a jersey ala the Kiko Alonso jersey story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We just get a snapshot in the preseason games so I rely more on practice reports. He's standing out as the clear #6 at this point from all accounts and can play special teams which is huge with the coaching staff. We could IR Stevenson and Hogkins to see where they're at next year. Ah, the special teams contribution is one I might have overlooked. But I still wonder if a player's only play of the season happens to be memorable like Kumerow's touchdown, then they loom larger on the depth chart for a long time... I look at Kumerow play WR and I don't see much more than I do with Duke. Not to open THAT can of worms lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Ray Stonada said: Ah, the special teams contribution is one I might have overlooked. But I still wonder if a player's only play of the season happens to be memorable like Kumerow's touchdown, then they loom larger on the depth chart for a long time... I look at Kumerow play WR and I don't see much more than I do with Duke. Not to open THAT can of worms lol I get the touchdown endearing him to Bills fan because Josh threw that football so hard that it could go through a car wash and not get wet. From what's been reported in practice, Kumerow has separated himself from the other WR's fighting for that 6th spot. I get the Duke Williams comparison but he doesn't play special teams. If we don't want to risk losing Stevenson than we can simply IR him before the final cut downs. If not then we can carry seven WR's if need be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I need to get my eyes checked. A quick glance at the thread title, and I thought someone had made a deal for a jersey ala the Kiko Alonso jersey story. Only a matter of time ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: Ah, the special teams contribution is one I might have overlooked. But I still wonder if a player's only play of the season happens to be memorable like Kumerow's touchdown, then they loom larger on the depth chart for a long time... I look at Kumerow play WR and I don't see much more than I do with Duke. Not to open THAT can of worms lol The Bills will not be overlooking it...he knows four positions on teams. Dude is not going anywhere via cut, trade or otherwise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 The “glut” of WRs is no glut when your starting four are all injured at the same time during the playoffs…, Go Bills!!! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: Ah, the special teams contribution is one I might have overlooked. But I still wonder if a player's only play of the season happens to be memorable like Kumerow's touchdown, then they loom larger on the depth chart for a long time... I look at Kumerow play WR and I don't see much more than I do with Duke. Not to open THAT can of worms lol At the end of the day - they said all of the same things about duke williams in previous camps as they say about kumerow. He played some snaps for buffalo and still ended up on the practice squad. 28 year old journeymen struggle at that position though, there are usually like 30-40 new WRs every season. A few retire, but mostly the journeymen are continually pushed out by new 20-22 year old kids who have draft pedigree and or some super plus traits (size, speed, hands, polish, etc). A lot of worry is going into who the 6th WR is - when they'll probably end up with 8 between the active roster and PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Not for nothing but the next play after Kumo caught the TD pass was Kumo tackling the KO Returner. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 When you have a franchise qb all the wrs are magically better than they would be otherwise. I don’t think Kumerow is a lock unless he can be a key contributor on special teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: Ah, the special teams contribution is one I might have overlooked. But I still wonder if a player's only play of the season happens to be memorable like Kumerow's touchdown, then they loom larger on the depth chart for a long time... I look at Kumerow play WR and I don't see much more than I do with Duke. Not to open THAT can of worms lol Difference is Kummerow actually makes the play, Duke more often doesn't. Touchdown was nice but the toe tapping catch Kummerow made was great. Meanwhile as Duke Williams was falling down it was an easy interception the Bear CB had from Webb had he been able to hold onto the ball, that was Duke's fault. Duke also should have held onto that TD throw in the Texans playoff game, he holds onto that we probably win. The great Duke experiment in Buffalo is over, I dont see how he sticks. Edited August 23, 2021 by RoyBatty is alive 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Duke may yet be practice squad material, despite his short comings. Stevensen is interesting for sure, speed kills as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I would call the Packers and trade him for a 4th round pick. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Objectively, we're talking about the 6th receiver on the team. How many balls this year will be thrown to the #6 receiver? Probably not too many, and whoever this player is, will probably not be the sole difference to a single W or L this upcoming season. For that reason... you keep whoever you think has the higher potential, and you live with seeing Kumorow in a different uniform. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: No I think if Stevenson is healthy then Kumerow is one of the obvious people whose roster spot he could take. He isn't the only guy... they could cut Taiwan Jones and use Kumerow full time as a gunner as I think many fans would like (though the continued sitting of Jones alongside players assured of their roster spot makes me think this is very unlikely). They could also go with only two frontline tight ends - Knox and Hollister - given that they have Gilliam who can do that job too, Sweeney is hurt again and they have nobody else on the squad at tight end worth rostering. They could cut Matt Brieda, go with Singletary and Moss and then both Gilliam and Jones as break glass in case of emergency backs. Or they could save a spot on defense cutting from the DL or the linebacking unit... but those are two really strong, deep positions on the roster as well and so you end up robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's tough because Kumerow is the 6th best receiver on the team right now. But Stevenson as a developmental guy both as a receiver and a returner is unlikely to make it through waivers with what he put on film on Saturday. Are they willing to risk that for a 29 year old journeyman with the numbers you quoted above? Not sure they are. 4 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: Ah, the special teams contribution is one I might have overlooked. But I still wonder if a player's only play of the season happens to be memorable like Kumerow's touchdown, then they loom larger on the depth chart for a long time... I look at Kumerow play WR and I don't see much more than I do with Duke. Not to open THAT can of worms lol I don't think either Kumerow or Stevenson would make it through waivers so to me that point doesn't matter. They both contribute to ST but in a much different way. Unless they keep Powell which to me is very unlikely, they probably would like to have a backup return man to McKenzie if needed on Sundays so that's in Stevenson's favor. However at this point Kumerow IMO brings more to the table as a WR than Stevenson. Considering McKenzie is a return man, they may feel the need to spell him more as the WR. Would they want to use him on 1st down after just returning say a 30 yard punt or kickoff? For that reason, they may want Kumerow. Considering overall how pass happy the team is and their TE spot is not the strongest, to me keeping 7 WR isn't the dumbest idea particularly when you look at how strong the group is top to bottom. Defense can't say, "oh good Davis is out this play, we have the advantage". Believe they led the league in plays with 4 WR's?? Fans have always gone gaga over Duke (Kiko 2.0) but don't recall hearing or reading about the players and coaches gushing over Duke they way they are about Kumerow. There was some, but not at this level from what I recall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I don't think either Kumerow or Stevenson would make it through waivers so to me that point doesn't matter. They both contribute to ST but in a much different way. Unless they keep Powell which to me is very unlikely, they probably would like to have a backup return man to McKenzie if needed on Sundays so that's in Stevenson's favor. However at this point Kumerow IMO brings more to the table as a WR than Stevenson. Considering McKenzie is a return man, they may feel the need to spell him more as the WR. Would they want to use him on 1st down after just returning say a 30 yard punt or kickoff? For that reason, they may want Kumerow. Considering overall how pass happy the team is and their TE spot is not the strongest, to me keeping 7 WR isn't the dumbest idea particularly when you look at how strong the group is top to bottom. Defense can't say, "oh good Davis is out this play, we have the advantage". Believe they led the league in plays with 4 WR's?? Fans have always gone gaga over Duke (Kiko 2.0) but don't recall hearing or reading about the players and coaches gushing over Duke they way they are about Kumerow. There was some, but not at this level from what I recall. Yeah I never got why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: The Bills will not be overlooking it...he knows four positions on teams. Dude is not going anywhere via cut, trade or otherwise I get that he plays teams... But it didn't help him make the active roster on many gamedays last year, and I haven't heard of him as a special teams "ace." And Stevenson obviously looks good on teams, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Sanders and Beasley are in their 30’s, both still excellent WR’s, but we throw the ball a ton and I’d like to think our staff paid attention to what happened in the Playoffs last year with injuries. Factor in a 17 game season, and I think it makes sense to carry 7. Kumerow is a guy we know Josh trusts, and can come in for red zone packages. Stevenson is a high potential guy that we’ll lose to waivers. You can’t teach speed, and he can absolutely fly. We got him as a steal in a loaded WR draft. Maybe he only plays sparingly this year, but that’s 3 more years of a rookie contract speed threat. The spot can come from Tight End. Carry Knox and Hollister, with Gilliam as FB/TE3. Edited August 23, 2021 by SCBills 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 You can't keep everyone. McKenzie seems to be making a strong case for himself to be a bigger part of the offense. However, he is still not showing his hands to be reliable on kick receiving. Stevenson is a 2021 draft-pick...he looks to be a legit return threat, and has shown some receiving ability as well. Everyone loves Kumerow, but he may be the odd man out, if they only keep six. I didn't realize Kumerow was 29 already...I say, see if Green Bay will give you a 4th or 5th rounder for him... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think Kumerow has shown great value to the team, enough to keep him. I'd also consider that, as one of the top pass-happy teams in the league, it would be wise to keep more WR than usual in case guys go down—as was the case last year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: No I think if Stevenson is healthy then Kumerow is one of the obvious people whose roster spot he could take. He isn't the only guy... they could cut Taiwan Jones and use Kumerow full time as a gunner as I think many fans would like (though the continued sitting of Jones alongside players assured of their roster spot makes me think this is very unlikely). They could also go with only two frontline tight ends - Knox and Hollister - given that they have Gilliam who can do that job too, Sweeney is hurt again and they have nobody else on the squad at tight end worth rostering. They could cut Matt Brieda, go with Singletary and Moss and then both Gilliam and Jones as break glass in case of emergency backs. Or they could save a spot on defense cutting from the DL or the linebacking unit... but those are two really strong, deep positions on the roster as well and so you end up robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's tough because Kumerow is the 6th best receiver on the team right now. But Stevenson as a developmental guy both as a receiver and a returner is unlikely to make it through waivers with what he put on film on Saturday. Are they willing to risk that for a 29 year old journeyman with the numbers you quoted above? Not sure they are. Can't get rid of Stevenson. Guy has top end speed. Those guys are tough to come by. Kumerow is solid and will probably contribute in spots. And Hollister looks like a solid NFL player as well. We have a lot of talent on offense. But you can never have too much. Not sure why a guy like Duke Williams is even in camp. He is slow has no explosion and marginal hands. No need to keep a guy like that on the practice squad. The Duke Williams experiment needs to end.. It should be very interesting getting down to the final 53. Go Bills. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 As of now I see Kumerow as having shown he deserves to WR6 slot especially with his PS worth. The question for me is Stevenson. It is looking like the Bills may want to keep him as a WR7 instead of risking a team picking him up on waivers. It's looking like his value will rise so I say keep him on the 53 roster and find another to cut. Sanders, McKenzie and Kumerow are all FAs next year so Stevenson under contract probably is a good move. Hodgins, Gentry, Williams, Lenoir and Powell are a good group to have one or two easily survive to sign on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Kumerow is the big, tall receiver that many fans have been yearning for. He’s made plays in the league. He’s been one of Josh’s favorite receivers in camp. He stays! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think we should keep Kumerow. None of the posters who are saying to unload him have every played quarterback in the NFL. The Green Bay Packers are a top 10 or top 5 team in the NFL. Their QB likes Kumerow and calls him the 2nd best WR on his team. Somehow I will favor his evaluation more. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/05/aaron-rodgers-remains-upset-the-packers-cut-jake-kumerow/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: We have an embarrassment of riches at receiver. I've read lots of great posts about our final 53, debating whether we should carry 7 WRs. However, it seems to be assumed that Kumerow should be on the 53. For a while, I assumed that too. But then I thought about it and wondered, why am I so high on Kumerow? Yes, I loved seeing his hair swoop and felt great for Touchdown Jesus as he made his only catch last season, in the blowout of the Broncos. But he has played four seasons and his career stats are 21 catches for 344 yards and 3 TDs. He is 6'4" but pretty light at 210 pounds, so he isn't going to outmuscle cornerbacks. At the same time, he's no burner and never seems to get wide open. Nor does he have exceptional route-running or quickness. And lately he's been dropping balls that look pretty catchable, which if you aren't a separation receiver, is not gonna work. Okay, Aaron Rodgers once said he likes him, but that's not really enough, is it? There seems to be a kind of groupthink love for Kumerow which has developed. I was part of it too. But I don't see it borne out by his performance. Trying to look at it objectively, it makes more sense to carry 6 wide receivers but keep Stevenson, who can also take over if McKenzie keeps muffing punts, and serves as a deep threat. Am I missing something here? So a couple things. First off, it has to be recognized that coaches and FO are probably not able to overcome their unconscious biases: they will be pre-disposed to perceive more positives in highly drafted players vs late round picks, and players who were drafted at all over UDFA. There was a study of basketball playing time that found one of the highest predictors of a player's playing time after scoring was....not any metrics about defense or anything else posited as important...Draft position...and this bias persisted for years. So frankly, for an undrafted guy from a DIII school to even stick around on various practice squads year after year, says something strong about the abilities he shows. It's also not unusual for late round/UDFA who eventually make it in the NFL, to take 3-4 years to make it to a roster and start getting looks. Kumerow came out in 2015 and first got game time snaps in 2018. Second, I haven't watched the Chicago game yet, but the reports out of both Packers AND Bills camp is that his routerunning and quickness ARE exceptional, especially for a big WR. No, he won't blow past someone, but he can fake them out. And I'm puzzled by the idea that a 210 lb 6'4" WR can't outmuscle, say, a 5'10" 190 lb cornerback. It's not just the sheer muscle mass or static strength that matter, it's power. I'm not saying he has it, I'm just saying you can't tell whether or not he does, just by his height and weight. Third, it has to be recognized that when you get to the back of the roster, the WRs MUST play special teams and they must have other skills - blocking, at least downfield. Kumerow is apparently a sound blocker both downfield and in the backfield - he got a shout-out for springing Singletary vs Chicago, I saw him hit a nice downfield block against the Lions, and I've seen video of him blocking in the backfield for GB, quite capably. He apparently has the right fearless, abandoned, but in control (just) attitude that makes a good STer. The hands do worry me. The primary thing a WR on any team has to do is...Catch the Ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: I think we should keep Kumerow. None of the posters who are saying to unload him have every played quarterback in the NFL. The Green Bay Packers are a top 10 or top 5 team in the NFL. Their QB likes Kumerow and calls him the 2nd best WR on his team. Somehow I will favor his evaluation more. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/05/aaron-rodgers-remains-upset-the-packers-cut-jake-kumerow/ Thats great, but he just dropped two passes in live action. That's a flag to me. Could be an anomaly, and every receiver drops passes, but two in one game is concerning. And they arent Josh bullets either. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Da webster guy said: Thats great, but he just dropped two passes in live action. That's a flag to me. Could be an anomaly, and every receiver drops passes, but two in one game is concerning. And they arent Josh bullets either. Maybe that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 hours ago, dneveu said: At the end of the day - they said all of the same things about duke williams in previous camps as they say about kumerow. He played some snaps for buffalo and still ended up on the practice squad. 28 year old journeymen struggle at that position though, there are usually like 30-40 new WRs every season. A few retire, but mostly the journeymen are continually pushed out by new 20-22 year old kids who have draft pedigree and or some super plus traits (size, speed, hands, polish, etc). A lot of worry is going into who the 6th WR is - when they'll probably end up with 8 between the active roster and PS. The difference is Kumerow can play ST whereas Duke doesn't. Kumerow is a tough cut and the idea that we use him instead of Taiwan instead of gunner is intriguing yet one has to think the latter as better hence him making the team last season. Yet he hasn't had any regular snaps during the preseason whereas Kumerow and Siran Neal have which may mean we may looking for more flexibility since our roster getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 They are going to trade Kumerow to GB. I don’t think he is that good and the overhype is probably meant to generate a little leverage. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think fans tend to overvalue fringe guys. Though I do think Kumerow and McK would get picked up quickly if cut. I would keep McK and if we can get anything in return for Kumerow would do it in a heartbeat. But would still be #4 or #5 type WR's on another team. Guys like Duke, Gentry, Powell are JAG's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Second, I haven't watched the Chicago game yet, but the reports out of both Packers AND Bills camp is that his routerunning and quickness ARE exceptional, especially for a big WR. No, he won't blow past someone, but he can fake them out. And I'm puzzled by the idea that a 210 lb 6'4" WR can't outmuscle, say, a 5'10" 190 lb cornerback. It's not just the sheer muscle mass or static strength that matter, it's power. I'm not saying he has it, I'm just saying you can't tell whether or not he does, just by his height and weight. Third, it has to be recognized that when you get to the back of the roster, the WRs MUST play special teams and they must have other skills - blocking, at least downfield. Kumerow is apparently a sound blocker both downfield and in the backfield - he got a shout-out for springing Singletary vs Chicago, I saw him hit a nice downfield block against the Lions, and I've seen video of him blocking in the backfield for GB, quite capably. He apparently has the right fearless, abandoned, but in control (just) attitude that makes a good STer. The hands do worry me. The primary thing a WR on any team has to do is...Catch the Ball. Very comprehensive response, much appreciated, Hapless. I take all your points. I guess my response was based on watching him play against Chicago, where I didn't think he looked particularly special at WR or on teams. Your point about draft position is really fascinating and I gotta think about that more, certainly makes Kumerow's lack of playing time thus far more explicable. Maybe we're gonna keep him and he will bail us out in some tough moments this season! That said, I also feel like if they only go with 6 WR I would still keep Stevenson, who fills a need (returner, given Roberts leaving and McKenzie being kinda muff-prone). If they go with 7WR, I would be fine with keeping Kumerow too. Kinda crazy how many pass-catchers we could have on opening day: Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, Davis, McKenzie, Stevenson, Kumerow, Hollister, Knox, Singletary, Moss, Brieda, Gilliam, plus any O linemen reporting eligible. That record for number of different receivers with a TD that we tied last season might be toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) All I'll say is that I wish Stevenson would somehow suffer a mysterious "injury" that no one ever actually sees happen but the Bills insist is real, so that they could stash him on IR for the year. Hodgins apparently actually DID sustain an injury, so ditto for him. An ideal scenario for me would be Kumerow making the 53 this year, but Stevenson and Hodgins somehow being safely stashed for next year. Put on your wizard hat, Beane. Well...not quite like that, but... Edited August 23, 2021 by Logic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, Logic said: All I'll say is that I wish Stevenson would somehow suffer a mysterious "injury" that no one ever actually sees happen but the Bills insist is real, so that they could stash him on IR for the year. Hodgins apparently actually DID sustain an injury, so ditto for him. An ideal scenario for me would be Kumerow making the 53 this year, but Stevenson and Hodgins somehow being safely stashed for next year. Put on your wizard hat, Beane. Well...not quite like that, but... Given that Stevenson hurt his ankle, went hobbling off with 2 trainers, then later was seen on the sideline in a walking boot and didn't return to the game, there isn't a need for much "mystery" there. The thing is, he needs much development, so I don't like the notion of stashing him on IR for the season, which has to happen unless he starts the year on the 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 That tip toe catch on the sidelines was pretty high level stuff. But it's that he plays special teams that will make him a lock. Unless they can trade him to GB ha ha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: The difference is Kumerow can play ST whereas Duke doesn't. Kumerow is a tough cut and the idea that we use him instead of Taiwan instead of gunner is intriguing yet one has to think the latter as better hence him making the team last season. Yet he hasn't had any regular snaps during the preseason whereas Kumerow and Siran Neal have which may mean we may looking for more flexibility since our roster getting better. Could also be looked at like Jones role is secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I was pretty unimpressed with Kumerow on Sat. He made some plays, but he needs to make all the plays. He's not going to get opportunities like he did on Sat. He needs to be counted on for the 1 or 2 throws he gets thrown his way. I would take Stevenson over him and Hodgins should easily go on PS. You can call up Hodgins if you want a tall WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Given that Stevenson hurt his ankle, went hobbling off with 2 trainers, then later was seen on the sideline in a walking boot and didn't return to the game, there isn't a need for much "mystery" there. The thing is, he needs much development, so I don't like the notion of stashing him on IR for the season, which has to happen unless he starts the year on the 53. They can always do what they did last year and "release" players with no cap ramifications just to bring them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I want him on the 53 just so Rodgers doesn't have any satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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