Royale with Cheese Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 The first player that comes to mind is Eric Moulds. He had an end of career Kelly, a bad Todd Collins, a bad Rob Johnson, not so good Flutie, a shot Bledsoe and a bad JP Losman throwing to him....yet he still put up good numbers. Any other QB I'm missing? I think if Moulds had at least a decent QB to throw to him, he would be looked at as one of the greats. He would be known at the same level as Marvin Harrison and Tory Holt who were in his same era. But with the QB's throwing to him, he is really only still remembered by Bills fans. Who you got? 4 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 20 years worth of wide receivers. 7 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: 20 years worth of wide receivers. Probably anyone during the drought years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Eric Moulds. This thread can now be closed. 4 1 5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The first player that comes to mind is Eric Moulds. He had an end of career Kelly, a bad Todd Collins, a bad Rob Johnson, not so good Flutie, a shot Bledsoe and a bad JP Losman throwing to him....yet he still put up good numbers. Any other QB I'm missing? I think if Moulds had at least a decent QB to throw to him, he would be looked at as one of the greats. He would be known at the same level as Marvin Harrison and Tory Holt who were in his same era. But with the QB's throwing to him, he is really only still remembered by Bills fans. Who you got? Well, I think WRs are going to be the vast majority of answers, so Moulds is obvious but I'll add Peerless Price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I absolutely agree with Moulds…such a shame for him he landed here. I would have also been interested to see what Fred would have done on a really good team. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The first player that comes to mind is Eric Moulds. He had an end of career Kelly, a bad Todd Collins, a bad Rob Johnson, not so good Flutie, a shot Bledsoe and a bad JP Losman throwing to him....yet he still put up good numbers. Any other QB I'm missing? I think if Moulds had at least a decent QB to throw to him, he would be looked at as one of the greats. He would be known at the same level as Marvin Harrison and Tory Holt who were in his same era. But with the QB's throwing to him, he is really only still remembered by Bills fans. Who you got? After reading the subject i thought to myself "Eric Moulds" as i clicked. 9 catches for 240 yards and a TD in a loss at miami in the 1998 wild card game speak volumes to a) how good he was and b) how his talent was somewhat wasted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 On the defensive side of the ball there are LOADs of guys that would have been considered better if the team had an adequate offense and actually won something. the 1999 Bills D finished 1st in yards allowed and 2nd in pts allowed. The 2003 and 2004 Bills were 2nd in yards allowed in consecutive years. Lot of players no one outside of Buffalo has ever heard of that were really good. some random examples off the top of the head: London Fletcher Terrance McGhee (all-time return man too) Kyle Williams Sam Rogers Sam Cowart Henry Jones 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Peterman??? ducking for flying objects 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Bill Murray said: On the defensive side of the ball there are LOADs of guys that would have been considered better if the team had an adequate offense and actually won something. the 1999 Bills D finished 1st in yards allowed and 2nd in pts allowed. The 2003 and 2004 Bills were 2nd in yards allowed in consecutive years. Lot of players no one outside of Buffalo has ever heard of that were really good. some random examples off the top of the head: London Fletcher Terrance McGhee (all-time return man too) Kyle Williams Sam Rogers Sam Cowart Henry Jones Man, Cowart could have been so good for so long if it wasn’t for his injuries. Dude was a beast. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Lee Evans. The guy could get open deep with the cb trailing him by 10 yards. Losman hit him a lot on deep routes, but he could have been the best receiver in the league if he had a top 10 quarterback. 6 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: On the defensive side of the ball there are LOADs of guys that would have been considered better if the team had an adequate offense and actually won something. the 1999 Bills D finished 1st in yards allowed and 2nd in pts allowed. The 2003 and 2004 Bills were 2nd in yards allowed in consecutive years. Lot of players no one outside of Buffalo has ever heard of that were really good. some random examples off the top of the head: London Fletcher Terrance McGhee (all-time return man too) Kyle Williams Sam Rogers Sam Cowart Henry Jones If we had kept Pat Williams, our Williams Wall would have been better than Minnesota's. Kyle Williams didn't play with anyone next to him except for about 3 good years from Marcel Dareus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Eric Moulds. This thread can now be closed. Agree! 38 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: 20 years worth of wide receivers. I was going to say Robert Woods, but I think this is more to the point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Sammy Watkins Will he relive his Tyrod days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Lee Evans. The guy could get open deep with the cb trailing him by 10 yards. Losman hit him a lot on deep routes, but he could have been the best receiver in the league if he had a top 10 quarterback. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 My honest opinion Jp losman....... My funny opinion Craig nall My best guess probably Fred Jackson he was always a super star and most of his career was wasted in Europe.....imo he may have been one of the all time greats had he had enough time starting 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Man, Cowart could have been so good for so long if it wasn’t for his injuries. Dude was a beast. To this day I remember the game against Tampa in 2000 that really ended it for Sam. He had three sacks or something like that in the 1st half and was dominating the game, then tore his achilles (I think). The Bills collapsed in the 4th and started a spiral that took them out of playoff contention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Alex Van Pelt. He should have started over Collins and Neckbert. By the time they did start him in 2001, the Bills had no offense and a putrid defense (ha baht that Kendrick Office?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Aaron Schobel was already a great player with absolutely no help... think of what he could've done with some help 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Good comments so far. How about Ryan Lindell? He was a really good kicker. If the Bills had a better offense he probably has a much higher total point total. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Dennis Shaw 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Hobert. If only he had learned to read. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Joe Dufek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Marshawn Lynch. I wonder what would have happened if he had a decent play-caller and an opportunity to contribute in meaningful playoff and championship football games. I guess we'll never know. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Logic said: Marshawn Lynch. I wonder what would have happened if he had a decent play-caller and an opportunity to contribute in meaningful playoff and championship football games. I guess we'll never know. Damn that Chipewwa Street 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloCajun Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Aaron Schoebel, Phil Hansen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Lee Evans. The guy could get open deep with the cb trailing him by 10 yards. Losman hit him a lot on deep routes, but he could have been the best receiver in the league if he had a top 10 quarterback. He was never really close to a complete receiver though. I liked him a lot, but he was never an elite route runner or someone who could make contested catches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Dan Darragh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) I will say Stevie. He would have been great in the role Beasley plays now because he was always open underneath but he was forced to be the defacto #1. Plus the QB play didnt help Edited June 10, 2021 by jletha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Early days: Also WRs - Marlin Briscoe and Bob Chandler. Though he had a great playing career, OJ's first 3 years (year 2 he got hurt) were wasted. Imagine if Saban had been here from the beginning of his career. Tony Greene and late 70-80s, Charles Romes Later: Moulds for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, BuffaloCajun said: Aaron Schoebel, Phil Hansen... Wow, I had forgotten about Aaron Schoebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I think there was so much wrong on some of those Bills teams it is a hard question to answer. I only saw the last 2 or 3 years of Moulds but agree he is in the conversation. The first Bills season I watched was the Bledsoe and Moulds year and he had like 10 touchdowns. Imagine if he had competent QB play his whole career!?! If I am going to go for someone a bit left field I think had Nigel Bradham benefitted from more consistency in scheme and role in his early years he is a guy that the Bills would have given a second contract to and he'd have had a decent payday. Instead he was always seen as a bit part because he was moved around a ton and the scheme flipped every year. Worked out for him as he was a starter on the Eagles' Superbowl team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Allen2Diggs said: Lee Evans. The guy could get open deep with the cb trailing him by 10 yards. Losman hit him a lot on deep routes, but he could have been the best receiver in the league if he had a top 10 quarterback. So true...on a better team, with a better QB, he would have been a household name. His rookie year, playing with a badly deteriorated Drew Bledsoe, you could see the potential. He and JP had some chemistry that flashed at times. But the offense, in general during his time, was so anemic. And once he was "the guy" for the Bills, WR wise, there was never really "ANOTHER GUY", to take defensive attention away from him. Roscoe Parrish and Josh Reed, both kind of "JAGS" were really his only support. The one year T.O. was in town, was when Evans stats dropped a lot...and then Stevie Johnson became the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Allen2Diggs said: Lee Evans. The guy could get open deep with the cb trailing him by 10 yards. Losman hit him a lot on deep routes, but he could have been the best receiver in the league if he had a top 10 quarterback. He went to some other teams and didn't do much, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: He was never really close to a complete receiver though. I liked him a lot, but he was never an elite route runner or someone who could make contested catches. He absolutely could make contested catches. He had really strong hands He pulled in a bomb over three Miami dolphin defenders one time if I recall correctly Just now, MJS said: He went to some other teams and didn't do much, though. We traded him to Baltimore when he was 30 years old. He was a speed receiver who lost a step.. his career was over by that time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Maybe I'll go with Terrance McGee? Heck of a corner who had to play on some really bad teams and never got the recognition he deserved. He was a great returner too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Logic said: Marshawn Lynch. I wonder what would have happened if he had a decent play-caller and an opportunity to contribute in meaningful playoff and championship football games. I guess we'll never know. Yeah imagine if we had drafted Dez Bryant instead of Spiller. That offense could have been a whole lot better with Fitz, Lynch/Jackson, Bryant, SJ13 and Chandler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Eric Wood? 🤔 Just missed out on the Buffalo renaissance getting into full go… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Marcel Dareus. HOF talent drafted by the wrong team at the wrong time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, BuffaloCajun said: Phil Hansen Huh? Maybe my sarcasm meter is on the blink. 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think there was so much wrong on some of those Bills teams it is a hard question to answer. I only saw the last 2 or 3 years of Moulds but agree he is in the conversation. The first Bills season I watched was the Bledsoe and Moulds year and he had like 10 touchdowns. Imagine if he had competent QB play his whole career!?! If I am going to go for someone a bit left field I think had Nigel Bradham benefitted from more consistency in scheme and role in his early years he is a guy that the Bills would have given a second contract to and he'd have had a decent payday. Instead he was always seen as a bit part because he was moved around a ton and the scheme flipped every year. Worked out for him as he was a starter on the Eagles' Superbowl team. A popular line at the time..."guns don't kill people. Nigel Bradham kills people." Edited June 10, 2021 by eball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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