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Who do you see on the current roster that the Bills might give up on that has the potential to become a Pro Bowler?

 

(and I know the Bills didn't necessarily "give up" on Teller, but they gave away a future pro bowler on the cheap).

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1 hour ago, OnTheRocks said:

Who do you see on the current roster that the Bills might give up on that has the potential to become a Pro Bowler?

 

(and I know the Bills didn't necessarily "give up" on Teller, but they gave away a future pro bowler on the cheap).


wow what a clever shade post. Not even mad. 

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2 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

If he's traded or cut that means Lamp outplayed him. I'd be ok with that

 

Me too. I figure it has a chance to be Ford because (1) Beane seems to have misevaluated OG talent trading away Teller; and/or (2) I could see Ford fitting better in a different scheme and thriving if his skillset is utilized to its fullest.

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15 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


wow what a clever shade post. Not even mad. 

Since Teller's haul was used to select Tyler Bass and trade for Diggs, it's not like we got nothing of value in return.  With our current depth, I have no doubt that we will cut someone that will start for another team.  These are good problems to have.  

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9 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

If he's traded or cut that means Lamp outplayed him. I'd be ok with that

 

 

As critical of the Ford selection, and his play, as I have been..........he does have two seasons of team control left so he could in theory end up as a backup to Lamp and then succeed him in 2022 if Lamp does well and departs in FA.    I won't shed a tear if he gets sent off but they've got guys like Lamp and Bates and Boettger (and essentially Morse) on one year deals so if Ford shows improvement I could see them holding on to him even if he can't beat out Lamp or Feliciano for work.

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44 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

 

Me too. I figure it has a chance to be Ford because (1) Beane seems to have misevaluated OG talent trading away Teller; and/or (2) I could see Ford fitting better in a different scheme and thriving if his skillset is utilized to its fullest.

To be fair, we need players of his skillset. He's more of a "bulldozer" and we need better run blocking. I think if he can improve upon his pass blocking, there's zero chance he doesnt start unless Lamp is just that much better. I'm higher on Lamp than a lot of folks though.

35 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

As critical of the Ford selection, and his play, as I have been..........he does have two seasons of team control left so he could in theory end up as a backup to Lamp and then succeed him in 2022 if Lamp does well and departs in FA.    I won't shed a tear if he gets sent off but they've got guys like Lamp and Bates and Boettger (and essentially Morse) on one year deals so if Ford shows improvement I could see them holding on to him even if he can't beat out Lamp or Feliciano for work.

Exactly. we're not in a bad position, competition wise, on the OL

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2 hours ago, OnTheRocks said:

Who do you see on the current roster that the Bills might give up on that has the potential to become a Pro Bowler?

 

(and I know the Bills didn't necessarily "give up" on Teller, but they gave away a future pro bowler on the cheap).

 

 

It's happened, what, once in five years? Ten? More?

 

I don't see any particular reason to think it will happen again that way anytime sooner than the space before it happened last time before Teller, which was ... I don't know, does Ross Cockrell count? Woods who they wanted to keep but couldn't with their cap problems post-Whaley? Does Marquise Goodwin count? Kiko? Cordy?

 

Now, giving up on guys who then prove solid players elsewhere, that happens more the stronger your roster becomes and the more the cap forces you to choose cheap younger guys over giving second contracts. That I'd anticipate soon. Who? Hodgins, maybe? Corey Bojorquez? Jaquan Johnson? Harrison Phillips? Maybin's year with the Jets? Levitre? Marshawn forcing his way out of town? Poz, maybe, though I think they liked him but just weren't willing to pay market for a guy who didn't fit their switching system. Whitner having a decent career for where he actually should have been drafted rather than where we mega-reached for him?

 

Holecek, maybe, though that was more about scheme fit. Ronnie Harmon, though that was more about him trying to throw Kelly under the bus. Ahhhhhh, Lodish, maybe, as he made two more SBs with Denver?

 

Once in a blue moon these things happen.

 

For those saying Ford, unless he gets injured again there's every chance he'll be starting here for years. He was greatly held back by being forced to switch positions, sides and missing out on the offseason due to COVID before his second year.

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26 minutes ago, delirious said:

Who knows how Wyatt would have turned out here. I think he benefitted greatly from having Bill Callahan as his coach.

 

He started some games his rookie year for us and did well.  Many on this board felt he was ascending leading up to the trade.  I'm not sure anyone was predicting he was going to be a pro-bowler.  He was closer to what Ike Boettger was at the start of last year

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Ryan Bates. That dude can play. Every time he has stepped on the field he has done well. I fully expect him to put it together for another team and become a solid starter.

 

And I'm ok with that. Having an abundance of talent that leaks onto other teams is a sign of a good franchise.

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9 hours ago, OnTheRocks said:

Who do you see on the current roster that the Bills might give up on that has the potential to become a Pro Bowler?

 

(and I know the Bills didn't necessarily "give up" on Teller, but they gave away a future pro bowler on the cheap).

What ya fishin for, asking for a friend...

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7 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

No Don he wants phone a friend or 50/50.

 

I had to sit through enough of that stuff with my parents years ago when I came to visit.  Sad thing is my dad still watches wheel of fortune.  Whenever I come to visit I feel dumber in 30 minutes.

He's not watching 'Wheel of Fortune', he's watching Vanna.
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See if Pops wants to buy a vowel...

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12 hours ago, Saint Doug said:

This one’s easy. Jason Peters. 

 

 

Different deal. 

 

Every team loses guys as a result of not being willing to pay market value. Scheme fit also when coaching changes. 

 

Relatively few have enough good guys at any position that they decide to give up a young, cheap guy with some talent who hasn't finished his development in his first couple of years because there just isn't room enough for all the good players. That's what Beane did here, and he did it just before the guy hit his tipping point because they had an awful lot of pretty good players at OL.

 

The Peters fiasco was a horrible decision, but a decision of a different kind.

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