arcadia bob Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I can see 5 years $230 million with $200 million guaranteed.With a no trade kicker thrown in.... I think allen takes this and gives the bill a slight discount Year 1 30 year 2 35 year 3 45 year 4 55 year 5 65 Thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 The longer the contract the better. Mahomes contract was actually very team friendly. I seriously doubt under you’re scenario the Bills would guarantee $200 of $230. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: The longer the contract the better. Mahomes contract was actually very team friendly. I seriously doubt under you’re scenario the Bills would guarantee $200 of $230. Was thinking the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, arcadia bob said: I can see 5 years $230 million with $200 million guaranteed.With a no trade kicker thrown in.... I think allen takes this and gives the bill a slight discount Year 1 30 year 2 35 year 3 45 year 4 55 year 5 65 Thoughts? I think it’ll be slightly longer and way more backloaded, but you’ve got a pretty good jumping off point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcadia bob Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Was thinking the same... I hear you but I don't think they can go lower the way The QB market is going. Hard to believe but I think 200 gauranteed is going to be a steal when you look at it 3 years down the road. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: The longer the contract the better. Mahomes contract was actually very team friendly. I seriously doubt under you’re scenario the Bills would guarantee $200 of $230. Yes. The longer the better because the Bills can push money back if they need to. The average can't change a whole lot. He'll slot in between Mahomes' $45 million and Prescott's $40 million. We'll likely see it look like this in the end... 1 - Mahomes 2 - Allen 3 - Jackson 4 - Mayfield 5 - Prescott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Beane will get the most cap friendly deal he can even from Allen. My guess is you’ll see 8 years 310 million(slight discount) with 250 million guaranteed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: Beane will get the most cap friendly deal he can even from Allen. My guess is you’ll see 8 years 310 million(slight discount) with 250 million guaranteed I don’t think Josh will soak them for every cent he can get. He’s not that kind of guy, I’m guessing. He wants to win. I know I’d rather compete at the highest level than have an “extra” $30 mil on top of my hundreds of millions. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a HUGE fan of money, but once I have a couple hundred MILLION in the bank, the next increment will not drive me as much as happiness. The contract will “look like” a VERY long document, with MANY digits and commas. Good for him, good for us! 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcadia bob Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 After looking at Mahomes contract the guarantee I suggested may be high on the guarantee money but not by much.The Bills have not had a decent Qb in forever and I don't think they will screw around with his contract.Not a time mess with the fan base over a contract.I think they will steep up and pay the man.If the its a bit high so be it if it brings Sb Or 2 who will care about the contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 6 years - 258 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcadia bob Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 The dollar amount doesn't matter its all about the guaranteed money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t think Josh will soak them for every cent he can get. He’s not that kind of guy, I’m guessing. He wants to win. I know I’d rather compete at the highest level than have an “extra” $30 mil on top of my hundreds of millions. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a HUGE fan of money, but once I have a couple hundred MILLION in the bank, the next increment will not drive me as much as happiness. The contract will “look like” a VERY long document, with MANY digits and commas. Good for him, good for us! That is cheaper than going rate thats under 40 million a year which is around what the QBs are getting in annual salary, in this scenario, Allen would be getting 38.5 a cheap discount. I guess you could argue maybe he would take 35 to keep opportunities to win but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 26 years and 3 billion dollars is my prediction. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 12 years 17.7% of cap 100 million guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Similar to Mahomes I would think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, DJB said: 26 years and 3 billion dollars is my prediction. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Something like this: 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Roughly around 2 tons of $100 bills guaranteed for 6 yrs., be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 And I won’t begrudge the man a single dime of it—a Buffalo soldier through and through! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 If I were a betting man, I’d say probably black ink on a white background.. But I’ve been wrong before.. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, arcadia bob said: The dollar amount doesn't matter its all about the guaranteed money.... Okay. League minimum. Fully guaranteed. 3 hours ago, Cruiserplayer said: 12 years 17.7% of cap 100 million guaranteed Can they legally do that considering the CBA is up in 2030? I think it's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I'm guessing 6 year/250 million, give or take twenty dollars. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: And I won’t begrudge the man a single dime of it—a Buffalo soldier through and through! If he does this again after signing that contract I’m gonna be pissed 14 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: I'm guessing 6 year/250 million, give or take twenty dollars. Not happening but I’d be extremely happy if It did Edited May 19, 2021 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, arcadia bob said: I can see 5 years $230 million with $200 million guaranteed.With a no trade kicker thrown in.... I think allen takes this and gives the bill a slight discount Year 1 30 year 2 35 year 3 45 year 4 55 year 5 65 Thoughts? Well it will be type written and have numbers and $$$$$ Edited May 19, 2021 by Xwnyer More info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Year 1- Money Year 2- More money Year 3- Big money Year 4- Even bigger money Year 5- Giant check money Year 6- Probably need an extension to bring down cap money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 9 hours ago, arcadia bob said: I can see 5 years $230 million with $200 million guaranteed.With a no trade kicker thrown in.... I think allen takes this and gives the bill a slight discount Year 1 30 year 2 35 year 3 45 year 4 55 year 5 65 Thoughts? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I don't think we're going to be able to sign him for the veteran minimum. Gonna need to up our offer a bit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 8 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Beane will get the most cap friendly deal he can even from Allen. My guess is you’ll see 8 years 310 million(slight discount) with 250 million guaranteed Gonzo, I’d love an 8 year deal, and the guarantee can be backloaded and then with the ability o go back to the bank of Josh to leave room to convert more to signing bonus to spread out as an out when we need $ like they did this year with Mahomes. You’re avg. is $38 mil., so I’m guessing it moves to a $41 mil.avg. As higher than Dak, but spread out. By several Accts., the cap projections which who knows of accurate early estimates. 2021 $181.5 mil. 2022 $203.5 mil. 2023 $225 mil. 2024 $255 mil. With these tv contracts they project the back half of the decade is going to keep ascending to at least $350 mil. Even of these are just guesses, the contract for Beane is going to be with what their capologists are guessing as they have to figure in Edmunds, and all the others they are guessing will make extensions. That’s way too much math for me, but Beane is weighing out all if these opportunity costs to see what keeps the team sustainable. I made a lot of assumptions, but they were educated guesses and I don’t have Beane’s inside info. I trust Beane in that he’s looking at all of these things. 1 hour ago, TBBills said: Year 1- Money Year 2- More money Year 3- Big money Year 4- Even bigger money Year 5- Giant check money Year 6- Probably need an extension to bring down cap money Thanks capologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I hope it’s on one long scroll and they need 5 people to carry it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: If he does this again after signing that contract I’m gonna be pissed Not happening but I’d be extremely happy if It did Hey, avoiding a hit is always better than absorbing one! 😁. Plus you gotta love the heart on this guy—that’s all I’m sayin’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Millions of dollars and a one dollar ownership lease on Niagara Falls for 99 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 11 hours ago, arcadia bob said: I can see 5 years $230 million with $200 million guaranteed.With a no trade kicker thrown in.... I think allen takes this and gives the bill a slight discount Year 1 30 year 2 35 year 3 45 year 4 55 year 5 65 Thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: If I were a betting man, I’d say probably black ink on a white background.. But I’ve been wrong before.. Bills blue ink or no deal gets signed. Edited May 19, 2021 by BarleyNY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Don't know if this estimate is still relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Probably something similar to this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I picture a layer of money 2 feet deep filling the lower bowl of Highmark stadium and Josh laying in the middle of it slowly beginning the count.....much like McDonalds it will be millions and millions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Look like pain. Hope its front and backloaded so we can find a way to keep talent on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 13 hours ago, Cruiserplayer said: 12 years 17.7% of cap 100 million guaranteed Interesting notion, salary as a percentage of cap. Makes some sense to me. Won't be done, but does make sense. 13 hours ago, Putin said: 6 years - 258 million This seems about right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: If I were a betting man, I’d say probably black ink on a white background.. But I’ve been wrong before.. Ink? White background? Good you didn't say papyrus. You old fogey! 16 hours ago, arcadia bob said: I can see 5 years $230 million with $200 million guaranteed. Thoughts? Imo, the contract will be longer duration. My guess is 7 years/$300 million. I don't have any guesses on the guaranteed amount 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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