CorkScrewHill Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I know .. we all hate PFF and I don't actually click on their site much, but I heard Cowherd or one of those guys discussing PFF's 2021 QB ranking ...Josh moved from near the bottom to start 2020 to .... number 6 going into 2021. When your haters compliment you .. you have arrived. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-ahead-of-the-2021-nfl-season Lamar was 8, and Baker was 10. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I like PFF again. 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 He’s top three in my opinion. But I get that they’re based on analytics (and hating on everything Bills). 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 They still suck. He should be 3rd at least. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Should be top 3. Laughable that Watson is ahead of him. 6 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, TBBills said: So he is behind a massage rapist... You dropped out of Junior High, didn’t you..🤦♂️ 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Is the author from Texas? Prescott way too high, especially coming off an injury season. Watson above Josh? Look at the W-L records last year. It's easier to pad stats on a losing team playing meaningless games without helping your team while making yourself look good on paper-and that's not even taking into account that at best he may have to serve a significant suspension and at worst he'll be watching games from a prison cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gambit said: Should be top 3. Laughable that Watson is ahead of him. And Brady and Wilson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: And Brady and Wilson. I let Brady slide because he just won yet another Superbowl. I agree that Wilson shouldn't be ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Doc said: And Brady and Wilson. Did Wilson manage to get a MVP vote in a year he seemed destined to get at least one. Edited May 18, 2021 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Gambit said: I let Brady slide because he just won yet another Superbowl. I agree that Wilson shouldn't be ahead of him. His defense won it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Hard to argue with this. After Mahomes you can throw the next five in a bag and shake it up. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Love how in Mahomes blurb it mentions he finished Top 3 in Turn Over Worthy Plays (23). But Josh Allen mentions he had the second most turn over worthy plays (23). When it should have said the same, finished top 3 since it was a tie. Writers..... pff (the sound) no wonder their site is PFF cause that is the sound we all make reading their poo poo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Soon as there is the 1st incomplete pass, they will say he is badly inaccurate and his pass is in another zip code away from his WR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Deshaun 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, CaliBills said: Love how in Mahomes blurb it mentions he finished Top 3 in Turn Over Worthy Plays (23). But Josh Allen mentions he had the second most turn over worthy plays (23). When it should have said the same, finished top 3 since it was a tie. Writers..... pff (the sound) no wonder their site is PFF cause that is the sound we all make reading their poo poo They're very similar QBs honestly. They never let a play die, rocket arms that can make ridiculous throws, and both can hurt you with their legs. Kelce gives an edge to Mahomes that we don't have. Beast redzone weapon, matchup nightmare, and some of the best hands in the business. Diggs vs hill - they're very different but dynamic in different ways. Diggs has superior route running, and seems to have a great feel for whats happening on the field. But Hill's speed is just ridiculous so he's a man coverage beast. I'd love to see a Kelce in buffalo's offense, but it wasn't in the cards this year. I don't think its smart to pay jonnu smith and hunter henry "kelce money" to get a vastly inferior player. Edited May 18, 2021 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 He is the best QB in the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1. Mahomes 2. Rodgers 3. Allen 4. Brady 5. Wilson 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 only Mahomes and Rodgers should be ahead of him 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: I know .. we all hate PFF and I don't actually click on their site much, but I heard Cowherd or one of those guys discussing PFF's 2021 QB ranking ...Josh moved from near the bottom to start 2020 to .... number 6 going into 2021. When your haters compliment you .. you have arrived. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-ahead-of-the-2021-nfl-season Lamar was 8, and Baker was 10. Who were #1 through 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I’m good with where he is-Brady and Wilson have done this for years, Josh has had 1 excellent season. If he plays as well as we all expect him to next season, then he will be a top 2 QB on every list 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Hate them. The first time I got naked in front of my wife and asked her what she thought, she said 'pff' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: I know .. we all hate PFF and I don't actually click on their site much, but I heard Cowherd or one of those guys discussing PFF's 2021 QB ranking ...Josh moved from near the bottom to start 2020 to .... number 6 going into 2021. When your haters compliment you .. you have arrived. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-ahead-of-the-2021-nfl-season Lamar was 8, and Baker was 10. Any list that has Lamont Jackson within 15 spots of Josh Allen is crap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 That crow PFF eaten must be awfully tough at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, CaliBills said: Love how in Mahomes blurb it mentions he finished Top 3 in Turn Over Worthy Plays (23). But Josh Allen mentions he had the second most turn over worthy plays (23). When it should have said the same, finished top 3 since it was a tie. Writers..... pff (the sound) no wonder their site is PFF cause that is the sound we all make reading their poo poo It is quite something when an organization dings QBs for things that didn’t happen, I’m waiting to hear about how RBs will be dinged for almost not getting a first down or receivers almost not catching a pass, oh, and always remember to never click on their site or a link to their site, hit them in the old pocketbook, 👍 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: I’m good with where he is-Brady and Wilson have done this for years, Josh has had 1 excellent season. If he plays as well as we all expect him to next season, then he will be a top 2 QB on every list True but Brady and Wilson's third seasons were nowhere near what Allen just put up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Need we remind ourselves that they once rated Josh Allen dead last - 32nd in the league behind the struggling Josh Rosen who had just been sent packing to Miami. That list is rather humorous in hindsight. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-rankings-nfl-starting-quarterback-rankings-for-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Who were #1 through 5? Mahomes Brady Rodgers Wilson Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Why throw this jab in there? "The only concern with Allen’s game now is his ability to protect the football. He had the second most turnover-worthy plays (23), trailing only Carson Wentz during the regular season." They didn't do something like this for any other QB in the top 10... They can't NOT post something to slander Josh, even when complimenting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Russell Wilson started the year as the best QB in the league. After the midway point, he was probably outside the top 10. No way he’s above Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 He’s the best QB in the league and one dominant Kittle/Kelce away from winning 5 Super Bowls in a row. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Prospector said: Why throw this jab in there? "The only concern with Allen’s game now is his ability to protect the football. He had the second most turnover-worthy plays (23), trailing only Carson Wentz during the regular season." They didn't do something like this for any other QB in the top 10... They can't NOT post something to slander Josh, even when complimenting him. Not only that...but if there's a tie between their #1 (Mahomes) and their #6 (Allen) in "turnover-worthy plays" for 3rd in the league, it's possible that it just MAY say something about their system of scoring such plays....just sayin' 40 minutes ago, WideNine said: Need we remind ourselves that they once rated Josh Allen dead last - 32nd in the league behind the struggling Josh Rosen who had just been sent packing to Miami. That list is rather humorous in hindsight. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-rankings-nfl-starting-quarterback-rankings-for-2019 Oh, that's precious! I hate to give them the clicks though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Russell Wilson started the year as the best QB in the league. After the midway point, he was probably outside the top 10. No way he’s above Allen. Wilson is a tough QB to measure. He might have the best deep accuracy of any QB in the league, but every year he falls into a lull at the midpoint of the season. As much as people make fun of the NFL for caring too much about his height, he does sometimes play like a QB that can't exactly see over his o-line. Until he can play at a high level for an entire season I can't possibly rank him in the top 5. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, Prospector said: Why throw this jab in there? "The only concern with Allen’s game now is his ability to protect the football. He had the second most turnover-worthy plays (23), trailing only Carson Wentz during the regular season." They didn't do something like this for any other QB in the top 10... They can't NOT post something to slander Josh, even when complimenting him. do you know Mahomes isn’t far behind that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: do you know Mahomes isn’t far behind that? If not tied... I know. Eff PFF, they still can't give credit after they made a huge blunder with their "perfected analytics" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, WideNine said: Need we remind ourselves that they once rated Josh Allen dead last - 32nd in the league behind the struggling Josh Rosen who had just been sent packing to Miami. That list is rather humorous in hindsight. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-rankings-nfl-starting-quarterback-rankings-for-2019 he looks like a quarterback who will struggle with week-to-week consistency but will put together monster stretches of play that will make life difficult on opposing defenses. Those monster stretches are now called the NFL season. Edited May 18, 2021 by Albany,n.y. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Prospector said: Why throw this jab in there? "The only concern with Allen’s game now is his ability to protect the football. He had the second most turnover-worthy plays (23), trailing only Carson Wentz during the regular season." They didn't do something like this for any other QB in the top 10... They can't NOT post something to slander Josh, even when complimenting him. I know right. Plus that's an utterly useless stat. It's not adjusted for situational football, scaled with attempts etc. ,'Turnover Worthy', was James Worthy's nickname early in his career, maybe they're confused by that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 He needs to cut down on the fumbles when scrambling or getting sacked, I think we can all agree. As for the "turnover-worthy plays," I believe there was a video of them and the vast majority would have taken superhuman effort to turn them into INTs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I would’ve been fine with him as 5th ahead of Watson, and not because of his off field stuff. Allen just made huge strides last year. This year will be the one where no one will be able to come up with excuses when he hits 69% or better as a repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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