Man with No Name Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Why is the Kelly vs Marino thread closed? I'm just trying to grasp the rules around here. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I dont think it was so much the thread subject as it was the OP who created it and his terrible history of posts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Marino was maybe a better passer, but he sure as hell wasn’t a better QB. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Man with No Name said: Why is the Kelly vs Marino thread closed? I'm just trying to grasp the rules around here. Thanks. Because Dunkirk Don changed his screen name to that OP and is making frivolous posts left and right. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 ok got it. I'm not around enough to sniff out some of the troublemakers here. I thought it was an interesting topic with some thoughtful posts. would be nice to just freeze or ban posters who are not contributing with good intentions, while also deleting posts that do not further the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Man with No Name said: Why is the Kelly vs Marino thread closed? I'm just trying to grasp the rules around here. Thanks. 2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: I dont think it was so much the thread subject as it was the OP who created it and his terrible history of posts. Yeah, what Bferra13 said. So far his four threads that I can remember are... - Telling us who Jim Kelly is. - A thread simply saying "This is my first real post" and nothing else. - Telling us what the Music City Miracle was. - The Kelly vs Marino thread. All written in the style of a semi-literate grade schooler's book report, and they never come back to the tread after posting it. Seems like either a troll, or a kid with a developmental disability unable to understand forum rules. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Marino was maybe a better passer, but he sure as hell wasn’t a better QB. I think this is where I stand, but I am 39 years old, so watched them as a pre teen and teen. Marino definitely seems to have the edge in skills. But I didn't know what I was watching enough to look at different intangibles, decision making, leadership, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, Man with No Name said: Why is the Kelly vs Marino thread closed? I'm just trying to grasp the rules around here. Thanks. Because it's been discussed here hundreds of times over the years. No new info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 When I went to Fish games at Rich Stadium, I would yell, "You blowwwwwwwwww, Marinoooooooooooo". He was a good QB, but he could never get over the hump against Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Marino was maybe a better passer, but he sure as hell wasn’t a better QB. I'm as Buffalo as it comes but I don't think this is true. I wonder if we would have won some of those SB's with Marino. We had great defenses, special teams and better tight ends and a deeper WR corp AND runnings backs He had Mark Duper 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 It blows my mind that they never got Marino a RB. They had no running game his entire career 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: It blows my mind that they never got Marino a RB. They had no running game his entire career He had RBs but his fakes were terrible and RBs got tackled quickly making it ineffective. Was at a bar called Greveys during Superbowl years and every time Marino was going to fake it bar patrons would yell fake before he did it. He was better actor in commercials than on the field. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He was better actor in commercials than on the field. OH, so THAT'S why I have 50 pairs of Isotoners in my closet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Man with No Name said: Why is the Kelly vs Marino thread closed? I'm just trying to grasp the rules around here. Thanks. I think Jim Kelly was a good QB and its not his fault we lost 4 consecutive super bowls. Jim Kelly was a very good quarterback. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said: I'm as Buffalo as it comes but I don't think this is true. I wonder if we would have won some of those SB's with Marino. We had great defenses, special teams and better tight ends and a deeper WR corp AND runnings backs He had Mark Duper We had guys recovering from hangovers, and were sadly out coached at critical points of games. That and Kelly routinely beat Marino over a long period of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said: I'm as Buffalo as it comes but I don't think this is true. I wonder if we would have won some of those SB's with Marino. We had great defenses, special teams and better tight ends and a deeper WR corp AND runnings backs He had Mark Duper So you are saying Bills had better front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) Would strongly recommend re-visiting "The 4 Falls of Buffalo" as well as "Elway to Marino" and "Dan Marino" for some more in-depth storytelling on both of these HOFers and their respective on-field prowess. ESPN may rightfully be criticized for their coverage quality drop off on-air, but these specials were on-point, and very well done, imho. https://www.espn.com/espnplus/catalog/f844e1d2-b60a-4205-9b5e-e583a6a08bf7/four-falls-of-buffalo http://www.espn.com/30for30/film/_/page/elwaytomarino https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/75bccd44-a4aa-43d4-b0c1-0fd19447395d?om-navmethod=espn%3Aglobalsearch%3Aresults Edited May 14, 2021 by NoHuddleKelly12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Man with No Name said: Why is the Kelly vs Marino thread closed? I'm just trying to grasp the rules around here. Thanks. no name, you say? I see what you’ve done here Man Not Named tylerbillsfan33... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: It blows my mind that they never got Marino a RB. They had no running game his entire career Yeah, they only had one 1,000 rusher during Marino's 17-year tenure there: 1996 with Karim Abdul-Jabbar with 1,116 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 48 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: It blows my mind that they never got Marino a RB. They had no running game his entire career Blows my mind how his hair held a curl after removing his helmet. Uncanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said: I'm as Buffalo as it comes but I don't think this is true. I wonder if we would have won some of those SB's with Marino. We had great defenses, special teams and better tight ends and a deeper WR corp AND runnings backs He had Mark Duper Our defenses got their asses kicked in the Super Bowls. Against the Giants they couldn't get the ball back to the offense. Wash and Dallas just physically manhandled them. Although the 9 turnovers or whatever it was in the 1st Dallas game didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Marino was better, and I don’t really think it’s close. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Marino was maybe a better passer, but he sure as hell wasn’t a better QB. And how many times did Kelly out class him in head to head matchups! Boom! It triggers a memory of the Bills 49’s game in 1992! Kelly on all cylinders! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 These comparisons are tough to make. They played under different coaches with different casts of characters. To draw parallels, Marino is more like Peyton Manning and Kelly is more like Brett Favre. Both all-time greats, but different personalities and different kinds of players. While I'd say that Marino was the better pure passer, Kelly was a better football player overall, and perhaps a better leader. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Marino was better, and I don’t really think it’s close. Go untuck your punter jersey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 If you polled neutral fans and media, Im sure it would be overwhelmingly in Marino's favor. Marino was great. They failed him with supporting cast. He was such a great passer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 That was because of his gloves. Gotta love those isotoner things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Kelly was great, but looking back on 4 super bowl losses, If we had a do over, I'd take Marino. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: If you polled neutral fans and media, Im sure it would be overwhelmingly in Marino's favor. Marino was great. They failed him with supporting cast. He was such a great passer. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Marino is a douche. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 The only time Marino was on an AFC champion was when Kelly was in the USFL. Once Kelly joined the Bills, Marino never got to another Super Bowl. Every time Dan Marino came close to the Super Bowl door, Kelly slammed it in his face. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Marino is comfortably in the Top 10 QBs of all time. Kelly is not. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: It blows my mind that they never got Marino a RB. They had no running game his entire career 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: He had RBs but his fakes were terrible and RBs got tackled quickly making it ineffective. Was at a bar called Greveys during Superbowl years and every time Marino was going to fake it bar patrons would yell fake before he did it. He was better actor in commercials than on the field. The other issue was as in any game if they fell behind even as little as 4 points, then Marino would totally give up on even trying to run and just keep stepping back and throwing. In the case of the Bills they had a strong enough pass rush and overall defense, than often would result in sacks or ints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Necessary Roughness>Ace Ventura. There. I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: He had RBs but his fakes were terrible and RBs got tackled quickly making it ineffective. Was at a bar called Greveys during Superbowl years and every time Marino was going to fake it bar patrons would yell fake before he did it. He was better actor in commercials than on the field. I think this was likely Marino's biggest flaw--at least according to what many Fins fans tell me. I admit, back then, I didn't pay much attention to Marino's impact on the running game. But after a bit of reviewing some old video (no major research effort here) it seems as though he did telegraph running plays. Marino was a much better passer. In other aspects Kelly was better, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Loser Dan folded in big games like a deer caught in headlights, unlike Jimbo who won many of them though not the biggest of them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, klos63 said: Kelly was great, but looking back on 4 super bowl losses, If we had a do over, I'd take Marino. But be sure to also ask the Phins fans who together with Marino were owned by Kelly and never sniffed a SB once Kelly came to Buffalo… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 hours ago, blitzboy54 said: I'm as Buffalo as it comes but I don't think this is true. I wonder if we would have won some of those SB's with Marino. We had great defenses, special teams and better tight ends and a deeper WR corp AND runnings backs He had Mark Duper I'd have to agree with you. Kelly was great, and a perfect fit for Buffalo. But Marino is one of the all time greats (I still don't like him though). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Let us never forget Loser Dan’s last game. Jimmy Johnson’s last game too. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200001150jax.htm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD4Bills Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Booger wants to weigh in... Dan Marino played at 6'4", while Jim Kelly was only 6'3", so Dan was actually 1 inch taller. Dan and Jim also both played offense, so never actually played against each other at the same time, as one team's offense play against the other team's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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