wnyguy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 He has 11 inch hands, one more inch it'd be a foot. 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: He couldn't be more different from Aaron Maybin. Still looks like a gangly dude running about. I'm sorry, but I'm 6'6" 250lbs and I couldn't play d-line to save my life. (I know you are surprised) As I said, I know nothing of him except the 5 minutes of video I watched, but that was the first thing that came to mind. Some tall guy who looks half as thick as everyone else trying to get to the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: This is the most important tweet to me. Especially with COVID obliterating the normal scouting process, teams are really relying on the connections they have to identify good prospects. McBean wanted/needed another edge rusher and and their connection to Manny Diaz gave them the confidence to take Rousseau over a couple other prospects that fit our need. And it’s probably no surprise this Manny Diaz was interviewed by Glab and Chris Brown in the post draft show they did. expect more of the same this year with early prospects from programs the Bills have connections with... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Codycolo12 said: I haven’t heard one expert say this is a good pick. Those sacks were from the qb holding the ball to long or no one blocked the dude. Just because he has 15 sacks doesn’t mean anything. Listen to Chris Simms, Connor Rodgers, Chris Trapasso, Bruce Nolan. It sounds like he is getting red shirted. He might be good in two years, but who gets a guy in the first round that cannot help the defense till 2022-2023. Sounds like another Epenesa. He should have been a 2023 first round pick if he reaches that Ceiling. Hearing that sounds like he’s on a 2-3 year contract but we have him for 4-5. defensive Ends or linemen in general their Measurements are very important. 3 cone drill was terrible. His vert was 30 inches (in the red). He Is not very strong. The only elite trait he has is he’s tall. Sometimes stats don’t mean anything in college. Add in the fact that this team has been trying to fix the d line for a few years and nothing has panned out. Mabe an inkling that they don’t know how to draft or pick up a FA D linemen at all. Murphy, Star, Epenesa, Addison, Oliver, Vernon butler, Jefferson. The list goes on. most expensive D line in football and nothing to show for it. Can’t get a sack and can’t stop the run? I thought it was going to come down to - Barmore, Samuel Jr, Moore. They do seem to like the same type of DE - Johnson, Epenesa, Obada and now Rousseau. None of them profile as huge sack DE's, they are the 3-5 sack/season guys, who are more balanced run/pass. But an average starting DE is what you're going to get at the end of the 1st Round. They said it all week, that only 4 of 36 DEs taken with picks 25-32 have ever mustered double digit sacks since 2010 or so (Capaccio). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Having NFL nutritionists available, world class gym after a year off working out... wherever. I'm not worried about the testing tbh, more of my concern would be about his development of moves and counters. Just seeing him in a suit he looked like he could easily gain some weight. What I really noticed is when watching the predraft coverage- I was not sure who all the players in Cleveland where, but there was one guy that stood out. He was a head taller than the other guys and just looked like a man standing there. I didn’t know who he was and largely forgot until our pick - most of those guys came and went and then we pick and this big, tall guy with a huge smile is in the frame and I realized - wow we got the man and the boy is the new Jets QB (a guy that is no slouch at 6’3, but looked so small. He just seemed like a guy with so much growth potential, but already has the beginnings of a mans body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Pros: Position of need High ceiling Cons: Bit of a reach (consensus seems to be late 1st to late 2nd rounder) Opting out of 2020 season. Will he be ready to make an impact in 2021? How is his work ethic? Feels like we could've traded down 10-15 picks and still very likely been able to pick him. Maybe Beane was trying and couldn't find a trade partner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: What I really noticed is when watching the predraft coverage- I was not sure who all the players in Cleveland where, but there was one guy that stood out. He was a head taller than the other guys and just looked like a man standing there. I didn’t know who he was and largely forgot until our pick - most of those guys came and went and then we pick and this big, tall guy with a huge smile is in the frame and I realized - wow we got the man and the boy is the new Jets QB (a guy that is no slouch at 6’3, but looked so small. He just seemed like a guy with so much growth potential, but already has the beginnings of a mans body. That makes me feel a bit better about the pick. Also, it turns out he's just turned 21, so we can probably expect him to put on 20 lbs in the next year or so if he follows the guidance of the S&C team... Maybin was going to get bigger as well, but he became an artist instead. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Codycolo12 said: I haven’t heard one expert say this is a good pick. Those sacks were from the qb holding the ball to long or no one blocked the dude. Just because he has 15 sacks doesn’t mean anything. Listen to Chris Simms, Connor Rodgers, Chris Trapasso, Bruce Nolan. It sounds like he is getting red shirted. He might be good in two years, but who gets a guy in the first round that cannot help the defense till 2022-2023. Sounds like another Epenesa. He should have been a 2023 first round pick if he reaches that Ceiling. Hearing that sounds like he’s on a 2-3 year contract but we have him for 4-5. defensive Ends or linemen in general their Measurements are very important. 3 cone drill was terrible. His vert was 30 inches (in the red). He Is not very strong. The only elite trait he has is he’s tall. Sometimes stats don’t mean anything in college. Add in the fact that this team has been trying to fix the d line for a few years and nothing has panned out. Mabe an inkling that they don’t know how to draft or pick up a FA D linemen at all. Murphy, Star, Epenesa, Addison, Oliver, Vernon butler, Jefferson. The list goes on. most expensive D line in football and nothing to show for it. Can’t get a sack and can’t stop the run? This is simply not true in any way. How can anyone with a shred of objectivity completely discount 15 sacks in a season? If all of his sacks were just a case of the QB holding the ball too long, Why didn't every average DE have 15 sacks against those same QBs? Every player accumulates some of their sacks on those types of plays. Do you think that other prospects never had the luxury of good coverage or a QB holding the ball? Edited April 30, 2021 by chknwing334 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Wasn't aware of him before the draft, but I really haven't paid much attention this year. That being said, I like the pick. Watching his highlight reel, I noticed that he tends to watch where the ball is at all times and sheds the block to go after the ball. That was the thing that I noticed the most: getting off his blocks and attacking the person with the ball. I like his size, too. A couple of sacks he got was because he stretched that big frame out to reach for the QB. Either reaching in from the edge or as he's falling down getting blocked and reaches out to trip-up the QB. I think he might do good against a running QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 56 minutes ago, Simon said: A huge part of that is because he can actually see the ball. Being able to play with your head up and maintain that peripheral vision in the midst of combat is a vastly underrated ability that doesn't come naturally to a lot of guys and isn't particularly coachable. That combination of vision and length should enable this guy to close fast on the ball and finish a lot of plays that other guys wouldn't. Excellent decision from the Bills braintrust to use the #30 on this kid. This is an excellent point. At least on the highlight reels, he always sees what's going on and reacting to it. And part of the ability to see and react is the way he uses his hands to stay in contact with but off the blocker - by staying off the blocker he can see what's going on around him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, mannc said: I’m confused. I thought Phillips was number 15 for the Canes... 2020 was the only year Phillips played for Miami. He took Rousseau's number after he opted out. Edited April 30, 2021 by gobills404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Anyone who doesn’t like the pick needs to hit up the Locked on Bills podcast from today. Marino spoke with Brently Weissman (former scout, works at TDN) and he raved about Rous. One mans opinion, but it took me from “meh, we’ll see” to “let’s ***** go!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, wnyguy said: He has 11 inch hands, one more inch it'd be a foot. winner 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Cannot believe they wasted a high draft pick on a Renaissance painter. Just goes to show, that beane will do whatever he has to to paint a pretty picture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Pros: Position of need High ceiling Cons: Bit of a reach (consensus seems to be late 1st to late 2nd rounder) Opting out of 2020 season. Will he be ready to make an impact in 2021? How is his work ethic? Feels like we could've traded down 10-15 picks and still very likely been able to pick him. Maybe Beane was trying and couldn't find a trade partner? Beane said after the Draft that the Bills explored both sides of a trade, and that one team showed interest in trading up and the Bills could have moved back, but the Bills were focused on Rousseau the way the Draft fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMarko Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Pros: Position of need High ceiling Cons: Bit of a reach (consensus seems to be late 1st to late 2nd rounder) Opting out of 2020 season. Will he be ready to make an impact in 2021? How is his work ethic? Feels like we could've traded down 10-15 picks and still very likely been able to pick him. Maybe Beane was trying and couldn't find a trade partner? Not even the slimmest of chance of trading down and still drafting Rousseau. He would have been taken in one of the next two picks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I would like this pick 4% more if his last name ended with an “x”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I'm watching Rousseau's interview from last night with the Buffalo media, and I've gotta say this... He seems like a really great kid. Smart, humble, friendly, genuine...seems to have his priorities in order in terms of opting out to take care of his family during COVID and whatnot. I know that being a great guy doesn't mean he'll be a great player. However, when you're hoping for a very raw player of considerable physical talents to reach his high potential, knowing that he's a humble, hard working, high character person is huge. It is that character and work ethic that will be key in becoming what the Bills think he can become, if he's able to do it. Happy for Rousseau and glad he's a Bill. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Being hungover and reading tbd sucks. Going back to bed 1 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 The rous is loose. Rousseau will rouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I agree, the fact it was one year cause some to pause, not me. I trust Beane and now it’s on McDermott and the coaches to get the most out of Rousseau. I get the pause on one year of production. But that’s life in a time of Covid. I don’t believe in season long flukes though. What he was able to do is, at least, what he’s capable of. Like you say, it’s up to the coaches to normalize and build on those capabilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This is not where I thought this post would end given its beginning. Glad you approve I love the pick because the dude has the gifts and once he gains some experience and good coaching he will be a stud. Book it just like i said we should missed the boat bigly not drafting Metcalf on the night of the draft after it happened and we took Ford. 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: well to address the bold. part of a 13 win team and one that was 45 minutes from the Super Bowl. What did any of those high priced signing do in that title game? any big time plays that changed the game? Addison is overpaid at his age and what he brings. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Interesting breakdown by Collinsworth.. ”He’s like JPP in the early days with stuff just flying everywhere” Edited April 30, 2021 by SCBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, racketmaster said: Maybin to Rousseau is not a good comparison. Maybin struggled to keep weight on and was at the combine between 220-230lbs. Maybin had no ability to play on the inside and he was a straight line speed guy. Rousseau is taller, more arm length, heavier 260-270, and can play inside and out. He is much more like Buckner from the Colts than Maybin but time will tell. It's just the way the description comes across. Also, almost all the time he was on the inside he would swing wide to the end, so I don't really see him as a viable hand on the ground inside guy. Excited for the potential though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mango Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Interesting breakdown by Collinsworth.. ”He’s like JPP in the early days with stuff just flying everywhere” So we are back to liking PFF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rochesterfan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Pros: Position of need High ceiling Cons: Bit of a reach (consensus seems to be late 1st to late 2nd rounder) Opting out of 2020 season. Will he be ready to make an impact in 2021? How is his work ethic? Feels like we could've traded down 10-15 picks and still very likely been able to pick him. Maybe Beane was trying and couldn't find a trade partner? First neither Con is super accurate as yes he was a consensus late first - early second guy and we drafted him late first - so right on value - not sure why that would be a con. His work ethic is well thought of - as an example - he picked up a ton of extra classes in high school to graduate early because he wanted to attend the U for spring practice before his freshman year because he was changing position. He worked super hard to graduate - just so he could get to the U and maximize his practice and learning - Manny Diaz talked about how much that meant. His work ethic was also evident incoming back from a fractured ankle his freshman year and then getting 15.5 sacks and 19.5 TFLs. I highlighted my biggest question - what in the world makes you think we could of traded back 10-15 picks and still got him? It sounds like from the guys talking about Baltimore - that was their pick and we took him - forcing them to take Oweh. If we moved back at all - it is very highly likely that he was gone before the end of Round 1. There was him and Oweh left of the 1st pass DEs and then Tryon starting the next wave and all 3 went with the last 3 picks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, racketmaster said: Maybin to Rousseau is not a good comparison. Maybin struggled to keep weight on and was at the combine between 220-230lbs. Maybin had no ability to play on the inside and he was a straight line speed guy. Rousseau is taller, more arm length, heavier 260-270, and can play inside and out. He is much more like Buckner from the Colts than Maybin but time will tell. Not the worst comparison in terms of rush ability. Both players were very raw when it comes to rushing the passer. But I think both are very different in what they're projected to be as a pro. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Rousseau hit the 280's in a year or two and become a dominant overall player that sets the edge and gives you 6-8 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 This was the year to take a swing like this, we're not likely to get another opportunity like this where a potential very high pick falls due to opting out. Great teams don't just find a way to adapt to a difficult change but find a way to get an advantage from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Slacks Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 This was my target/wish going into the draft. However I won't lie. When I saw JOK sitting there I was hopeful. But I am glad we got Rousseau. DE & CB are the two main priorities for me in this draft. Possibly 2 CBs. Late round targets for me would be Javian Hawkins RB, Paulson Adeebo (if we can't snag Georgia, Syracuse or Kentucky CB), Avery Williams ST. I would be happy with O-line as well. I will watch tonight and enjoy without the stress of who we get because really I like the way the draft has gone so far. I just don't want us to trade any picks form next years draft. Bonus would be picking up a 3 or 4 from next year on a trade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicken Boo Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Admittedly, I've never been more out of the loop than I am this year for all things NFL. I have very little knowledge of these draft prospects, but I like that OBD is tackling areas of need. Ultimately McDermott/Beane always seem to be able to see the forest for the trees - and that is encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Only on TBD would someone decide that we reached at pick 30 for a “late first to late second” player.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: Both will likely go early.. Can you see us maybe doing a hero move to get one of them? I honestly don’t know we might be looking at Melifonwu at this pointI honestly don’t know we might be looking at Melifonwu at this point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Anyone who doesn’t like the pick needs to hit up the Locked on Bills podcast from today. Marino spoke with Brently Weissman (former scout, works at TDN) and he raved about Rous. One mans opinion, but it took me from “meh, we’ll see” to “let’s ***** go!” Thanks for this. Marino is really good. Has a great explanation of Beane's style - the kind of players he's looking for. It's very well done. Plus, he scouted Rousseau in detail before the draft, and he reads his whole analysis. It's excellent. Haven't heard Weissman yet. 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Only on TBD would someone decide that we reached at pick 30 for a “late first to late second” player.... Thought the same thing. Reach? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Thanks for this. Marino is really good. Has a great explanation of Beane's style - the kind of players he's looking for. It's very well done. Plus, he scouted Rousseau in detail before the draft, and he reads his whole analysis. It's excellent. Haven't heard Weissman yet. Okay. They're getting me to the bargaining stage pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 @SDS Is there any way we can add approval polls to our draft picks from here on out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: @SDS Is there any way we can add approval polls to our draft picks from here on out? we probably have the technology. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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