YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Edited April 21, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Smart to get in front of this now instead of next Thursday. Because you know somebody would’ve leaked this last minute to hurt his stock. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Perhaps someone with more medical background can explain epilepsy better, but it seems to havent had much affect on him as an elite athlete. Sounds like doctors arent too concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Perhaps someone with more medical background can explain epilepsy better, but it seems to havent had much affect on him as an elite athlete. Sounds like doctors arent too concerned Yes. it is a condition that can be well monitored and controlled. of course, he will now 'drop' to the Patriots at 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Keep him off the field for the Super Bowl halftime show and he’ll be fine 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Adds a risk factor into selecting him. Will cause him to drop imho. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Yes. it is a condition that can be well monitored and controlled. of course, he will now 'drop' to the Patriots at 15 I doubt the Patriots would take a QB in Round 1 as think Belichick be in the mind set that QBs are made not born. I could see them taking a guy like Trask in Round 2 though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I doubt the Patriots would take a QB in Round 1 as think Belichick be in the mind set that QBs are made not born. I could see them taking a guy like Trask in Round 2 though. Hopefully he thinks this way. Because it's wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Ahhh - he’ll shake it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Adds a risk factor into selecting him. Will cause him to drop imho. The teams have already known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: Yes. it is a condition that can be well monitored and controlled. of course, he will now 'drop' to the Patriots at 15 If this happens Bills D will give him fits.. 2 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 In New York State, he wouldn't even be allowed to drive a car until 12 months after his last seizure event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 He isn't gonna be a good QB anyway... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Perhaps someone with more medical background can explain epilepsy better, but it seems to havent had much affect on him as an elite athlete. Sounds like doctors arent too concerned My wife and Dad have the condition. Wife hasn't had one for 25+ years so I have never seen it as hers is controlled via medication very well. My Dad had numerous episodes when I was growing up due to his refusal to take it. Basically somehow the electrical signals to certain areas of the brain get shorted and it goes haywire...can cause seizures, strange behavior, and exhaustion post seizure, but that was usually only with grand mal ones when they were very bad and I used to go run and hide in my room if he had one of them. Medication can control it to varying degrees...sometimes the person will never have another one again and sometimes they continue to have them but to a lesser extent. Edited April 21, 2021 by Big Turk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 He won't be hurt by it, we are just learning it but I'm sure all teams have known. Smart of him to acknowledge it to make the media fluff up about it a non story. This just in Mac Jones has average hand size compared to NFL QBs! Will it be enough!? Anything is a story right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Perhaps someone with more medical background can explain epilepsy better, but it seems to havent had much affect on him as an elite athlete. Sounds like doctors arent too concerned As someone who was incorrectly diagnosed with it as a child there are several types of epilepsy with the worst being Tonic-clonic seizures (also called grand mal seizures, can make a person cry out, lose consciousness, fall to the ground and have muscle jerks and/or spasms) which is type you see typically in movies with violent shaking, possible biting/swallowing of tongue, etc. In previous times such people were told not to play sports. These days you can play sports with precautions. There is medication to control it and typically seizures repeat without medication. Absence seizures (sometimes called petit mal seizures can cause rapid blinking or a few seconds of staring into space); this type could become a big impact to a professional player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: I doubt the Patriots would take a QB in Round 1 as think Belichick be in the mind set that QBs are made not born. I could see them taking a guy like Trask in Round 2 though. Nobody knows what Belichick thinks about drafting QBs because for 20 years he was only drafting for backup QBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, inaugural balls said: Ahhh - he’ll shake it. 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: If this happens Bills D will give him fits.. Well, even if he is to fall in the draft, I'm sure he'll seize the opportunity. 1 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Per me and Tom Pelissero? His mother is so ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Nobody knows what Belichick thinks about drafting QBs because for 20 years he was only drafting for backup QBs. True and prior to that in Cleveland he did cut a 1st rounder (Kosar) and replaced him with a 1st rounder (Testaverde) yet both were veterans and he does have a veteran now (Newton). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Virgil said: Keep him off the field for the Super Bowl halftime show and he’ll be fine Cold, dawg. Then again, you have to be to wear that haircut in public. 59 minutes ago, Gugny said: Well, even if he is to fall in the draft, I'm sure he'll seize the opportunity. You're going straight to Hell for that one, mister...🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 If a team was set on drafting Fields, this is a non-issue. If they were having a difficult time deciding between Fields and Lance, Jones, etc., this could slightly tip the scale away from Fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: never heard of outgrowing Epilepsy, but hey if you can, no biggie then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Beerball said: Per me and Tom Pelissero? His mother is so ashamed. Because he's hanging out with Tom Pelissero or his use of per? The me is correct and shouldn't be I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: never heard of outgrowing Epilepsy, but hey if you can, no biggie then. It isn’t common but it does happen. This is particularly the case for seizure disorders that start in childhood or adolescence. His family history of the disorder diminishing and going away over time is a good sign. I’ve actually seen it happen several times working as a psychologist with patients with seizure disorders at the VA medical center and another settings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Beyond football I hope the kid can manage his health. The game matters. But other things matter more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Beyond football I hope the kid can manage his health. The game matters. But other things matter more. He’s close to the TB12 method in how he manages his diet/lifestyle and that can’t hurt, I would imagine. He’s never had any issues with it affecting football so far so can only hope for the best going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, bigK14094 said: Adds a risk factor into selecting him. Will cause him to drop imho. I don't think it will cause to him to drop too much. The impact could be on teams picking 2 or 3 that might pass on him if the decision was close between him and another QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 No big deal. Didn't Julius Caesar have epilepsy? And he did alright conquering France, invading Britain and then bedding Cleopatra. As long as fields avoids Senators with knives he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Now it is understandable why there has been any question about whether he is the 2nd or 3rd ranked QB. I could not understand why anyone would rate Mac Jones ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Now it is understandable why there has been any question about whether he is the 2nd or 3rd ranked QB. I could not understand why anyone would rate Mac Jones ahead of him. Looking at pedigree, Alabama has had Joe Namath, Bart Starr, and Ken Stabler as QBs. Ohio State has had Mike Tomczak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Perhaps someone with more medical background can explain epilepsy better, but it seems to havent had much affect on him as an elite athlete. Sounds like doctors arent too concerned im an expert. I have multiple forms of epilepsy. there is one type that is believed children outgrow as they grow up. It can be controlled with meds. they thought I had this earn I was a young kid. They looked at my body size vs pill dose and thought it was too low. Within 2 weeks I had a full blown seizure called grand mal. thus was done by multiple doctors do I had multipke seizures from it. I had meningitis st 6 weeks of age and my moms mother and extensive seizure and stroke issues so that me I gitus may have triggered the seizure. I also had asthma. The first meds I took had trace amounts of phenobarbital which controlled the seizures. At 3 they changed meds and I had a seizure because this didn’t have the phrnobarbitol. I never had issues playing sports due to epilepsy. I knew another kid who coukdnt get things like head shots otherwise it coukd cause seizures. post puberty I developed a second form of a sense seizures which I had to add meds to control. I eventually got tested and had brain surgery to remove part of my brain believe to cause these second form of seizures. They did end...but Idtill take low dose keppra which controls auras snd the possibility of grand mal seizures. in the brain surgery they removed the engine which generated the seizure but left the starter which produces auras. The meds suppress this. I woukd not be concerned on fields. That said some issues could surface if he gets a bad concussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Now it is understandable why there has been any question about whether he is the 2nd or 3rd ranked QB. I could not understand why anyone would rate Mac Jones ahead of him. I doubt anyone ranking him publicly had this info until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rico said: Looking at pedigree, Alabama has had Joe Namath, Bart Starr, and Ken Stabler as QBs. Ohio State has had Mike Tomczak. Don't forget Art Schichter (sp?). Still, Fields played very well in big games, has a much better arm and is another league athletically compared to Mac Jones. Jones played with 2 slam dunk first round WRs in this draft, 3 OL who will be drafted, 2 of which in the top 2 rounds, and a borderline first/second round RB. Jones had SO much talent around him, how do you even evaluate him? I am pretty sure that any 2nd/3rd string NFL QB and some guys who couldn't make the league would have looked great with that Alabama team. I'm not saying that Mac Jones isn't gooe, but rather how could he look bad on that team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: never heard of outgrowing Epilepsy, but hey if you can, no biggie then. There are forms you can but it’s usually with childhood seizures that disappear as you grow and pass puberty. The cause of it has to do with the growing and active brain development as a toddler that isn’t around post puberty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: I doubt anyone ranking him publicly had this info until now. Agreed, but the draftniks often pick up "vibes" from the NFL evaluators. I suspect that they picked up on the "we're not sure about Fields" vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: Don't forget Art Schichter (sp?). Still, Fields played very well in big games, has a much better arm and is another league athletically compared to Mac Jones. Jones played with 2 slam dunk first round WRs in this draft, 3 OL who will be drafted, 2 of which in the top 2 rounds, and a borderline first/second round RB. Jones had SO much talent around him, how do you even evaluate him? I am pretty sure that any 2nd/3rd string NFL QB and some guys who couldn't make the league would have looked great with that Alabama team. I'm not saying that Mac Jones isn't gooe, but rather how could he look bad on that team? Heard that about Burrow at LSU... Just now, OldTimer1960 said: Agreed, but the draftniks often pick up "vibes" from the NFL evaluators. I suspect that they picked up on the "we're not sure about Fields" vibe. Wouldn't a draftmik then say: "what do you mean"? And why would it matter to a guy writing a mock draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Heard that about Burrow at LSU... Well, yes. Point taken. However Burrow was more athletic and has a better arm than Jones - at least I think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Don't forget Art Schichter (sp?). Still, Fields played very well in big games, has a much better arm and is another league athletically compared to Mac Jones. Jones played with 2 slam dunk first round WRs in this draft, 3 OL who will be drafted, 2 of which in the top 2 rounds, and a borderline first/second round RB. Jones had SO much talent around him, how do you even evaluate him? I am pretty sure that any 2nd/3rd string NFL QB and some guys who couldn't make the league would have looked great with that Alabama team. I'm not saying that Mac Jones isn't gooe, but rather how could he look bad on that team? Yeah, I wouldn’t draft either of them that high, let alone burn 3 #1’s on them, but at least Mac Jones would still be on my board. Art Schlichter was one of my biggest all-time disappointments, I thought he’d be great in the NFL. AJ Hawk too, but I’d have no problem drafting an OSU LB these days. Edited April 21, 2021 by Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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