LABILLBACKER Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Addison also had 9.5 sacks before coming to Buffalo. Apply the same decline in Obada numbers. Expect a 50% drop in sacks. So based on your formula and years of research, Carolina players that come to Buffalo will automatically have a declining quotient of .5 Got it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieLeaks48 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Don't care what his stats were in Carolina, one thing we absolutely know, he will have a significant decline here. Why do we have all these scouts and front office people, if they are only going to sign players from Carolina? Settle down, Francis. He looks to have a high motor and is used to be a rotational guy. Price is low. I don't care where the guy comes from as long as he can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Addison also had 9.5 sacks before coming to Buffalo. Apply the same decline in Obada numbers. Expect a 50% drop in sacks. This post defies all logic. There’s legitimately zero logic used here. Zero. Learn math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: So based on your formula and years of research, Carolina players that come to Buffalo will automatically have a declining quotient of .5 Got it Honestly can't think of many that signed from Carolina that improved though, besides Williams of course. Was very impressive at T. Other than that, unless I'm having a brain fart, I can't think of another former Panther that made an impact that much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, RochesterLifer said: A good portion of NFL players are free agents every year. This is a really weak attempt to throw shade on a low risk, potentially high reward signing. I literally said it's a good signing and praised it earlier in the thread. All I did here was state a fact about next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: To quote the previous poster: that enough stats for ya? that does not disprove your point that one number cannot define that position - actually I am all for signing Clowney - who had zero sacks last year. Again my point is stats dont tell the whole story. There is a reason a 5.5 sack guy was not a sought after free agent. There are tons of examples of these tyoes of situations. Heck, Robert Foster had 500+ yards and mostly in the second half of the year as a rookie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) With Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, and A.J. Epenesa going nowhere, as well as them really liking Daryl Johnson - I don't expect anymore additions to Defensive End in FA or with a Day 1 or 2 Pick. Edited March 24, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 If this edge lineman pans out,watch our entire front play better. Addison, Hughes and Obada are UFAs and with Oliver and Phillips playing better, pressure packages will result in more sacks and QB pressures. If Etienne is available in rd.1, we could conceivably address every vital need necessary to get to the promised land. Naturally a cover db and a depth lb and O-lineman would be added in later rds. Beane is manipulating the cap beautifully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: With Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, and A.J. Epenesa going nowhere, as well as them really liking Daryl Johnson - I don't expect anymore additions to Defensive End in FA or with a Day 1 or 2 Pick. I think bigger DT and TE is our focus now in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/168856-obada-is-a-bill/?&page=3#comments If anyone cares to read the opinions of Panthers fans, click the link above. They mostly all wanted Obada back, and they're mostly all upset that the Bills poach all their good executives, coaches, and players 🤣 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: They saw 10 sacks in 2016 and thought he had some upside. I can sort of see that, but the contract... 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think bigger DT and TE is our focus now in the draft. I agree about DT but this isn't a good TE draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Logic said: https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/168856-obada-is-a-bill/?&page=3#comments If anyone cares to read the opinions of Panthers fans, click the link above. They mostly all wanted Obada back, and they're mostly all upset that the Bills poach all their good executives, coaches, and players 🤣 Solid signing for the Bills with upside. Worst case a very solid rotational player. Zero complaints here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, Doc said: The Buffalo Panthers and the Las Vegas Bills. I had no clue what they were thinking with Murphy. He was a LB and missed all of 2017, yet they gave him a massive contract. At the time those Bills had to over spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Logic said: https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/168856-obada-is-a-bill/?&page=3#comments If anyone cares to read the opinions of Panthers fans, click the link above. They mostly all wanted Obada back, and they're mostly all upset that the Bills poach all their good executives, coaches, and players 🤣 Last one I saw is great: "Bills are better Panthers than the actual Panthers" haha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, nucci said: I agree...every signing should be all-pro and future hall-of-famer Never said that. I just want to win a super bowl. Is that so hard to ask as a Bills fan? Are we not allowed to have nice things? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Addison also had 9.5 sacks before coming to Buffalo. Apply the same decline in Obada numbers. Expect a 50% drop in sacks. .......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Obada thing man.......Obada things. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Addison also had 9.5 sacks before coming to Buffalo. Apply the same decline in Obada numbers. Expect a 50% drop in sacks. Who put shrimp tails in your Cinnamon Toast Crunch 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: So if he's only been in league 4 years, was he even in Carolina yet when McD and Beane left? Not that facts would changes the jokes and comments about it here. Eric Washington (Bills D line coach) was his D line coach & D coordinator in Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Doesn’t look to be very high motor or lunch pail. I like this signing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Come bring it El Hefe If this guy with these measurables and that production at that stage of his career was coming here from say......the broncos we would be fawning all over him and talking about what a great judge of finding the talent Beane is. Who cares if he came from the panthers......for the people that complain we are not getting younger at the position.......well? Chances are we would NOT find find this production at pick 30 in the draft. It would be a developmental guy that we HOPED would get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, ngbills said: There is where just the stats can be misleading. There are obviously plenty of examples of guys that had less than 5.5 sacks that are in much more demand. It is what is actually happening on the plays he is in. How much is he impacting the game. Questions like - What is his win rate? What does he do vs the run? How much attention does he draw from the offense? How does he impact guys around him? Are his sacks in garbage time? Are they clean up sacks vs beat your guy and sack the QB? I would have to guess some of those answers are why a 5.5 sack is not in high demand. Still a good signing just dont expect him to be a savior and answer to our DL issues. This stuff reminds me of the pre Stef Diggs trade - we dont need help at WR we have Duke Williams. He has produced every time he had a chance. Look at the difference a Diggs makes vs a Williams. Or even a Diggs vs a John Brown. The same could happen if we could get a legit edge guy. A fair bit of misrepresentation and hyperbole included in this post. No one ever said or eluded to, we don’t need a Diggs because we have Duke, I was there for those conversations, and that is pure BS, as well, no one ever said or eluded to our new D line signing as being a savior, except for you and your ilk, that too is BS. Why do you anti Beane moves guy’s always go for the over the top made up stuff? It makes it hard to even want to read your view of these things.., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Last one I saw is great: "Bills are better Panthers than the actual Panthers" haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Back2Buff said: Don't care what his stats were in Carolina, one thing we absolutely know, he will have a significant decline here. Why do we have all these scouts and front office people, if they are only going to sign players from Carolina? How you know this???? Can you help me select the Lotto numbers too???? SMFH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Other than the fact that Beane can't find DL anywhere in the NFL except for Carolina, my biggest problem is the ridiculous rotation of the DL by Frasier/McD. I'm not saying your best 4 have to be out there 90% of the snaps, but it is ridiculous when your best DL are playing less than 60% of the snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: P- Signed Hawk. (I refuse to spell his name correctly than pronounce it incorrectly, so I’ll be spelling it Hawk) Man good thing you aren't a hockey fan....each time I think I know how the name is pronounced??? Not even close!!! Edited March 24, 2021 by Kwai San Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: So we came into March with these obvious holes in our roster: WLB- Signed Milano RT- Signed DWill G- Signed Feliciano/Ike DL- Added Star, Signed Obeda WR- Signed Sanders, signed ‘lil dirty KR/PR- Signed ‘lil P- Signed Hawk. (I refuse to spell his name correctly than pronounce it incorrectly, so I’ll be spelling it Hawk) CB2- Signed Levi We have a full and complete team and 7 draft picks. We are following the "no obvious holes, draft BPA for impact" model to the T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I imagine they got him pretty cheap. Had more sacks than any other DE on our roster last year. Still relatively young, and has upside. I'd say its a decent signing, Carolina or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Think about what this young man has been through.....he will be BLOWN away by the #Billsmafia - the more I find out about this guy the better move I think it is. Methinks we all just need to let Brandon drive the car, we can sit in back seat and enjoy the effing ride!!!!! Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What a waste of money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think it just further reduces the probability of them reaching and drafting for need which is a good thing... still think pass rush is an issue but I'd rather Obada rotate with Addison than Johnson. I'm being honest Scott....I don't know how to take it when you say something somewhat positive. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Never said that. I just want to win a super bowl. Is that so hard to ask as a Bills fan? Are we not allowed to have nice things? I didn't say you did and we got close last year so there is hope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Okdabawa ***** sucks. ***** the ex Panthers signings.... 😉 Great analysis. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 49 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: So based on your formula and years of research, Carolina players that come to Buffalo will automatically have a declining quotient of .5 Got it If we are lucky. Butler went from 6 sacks to zero. Star went from 5.5 in his last two year in Car to 2 sacks in his two years in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Some of the users on this site are truly insufferable, holy ***** lol. Getting upset over signing a guy w/ 5.5 sacks in 2020 for, at most, 1.2% of the cap. Edited March 24, 2021 by junior12thman92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbowl Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 If you want to win put a panther in. 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, TheProcess said: Whether the guy can play or not, they do know there are other players who’ve played defense for teams other than the panthers, right? This is some trend. That cliche has kind of worn thin by year 5 of the McDermott regime don't you think?? Lets see who Emmanuel Sanders played for previously in his career... The Panthers? Nope. The Steelers Broncos 49ers and Saints. How about Jacob Hollister? The Panthers? Nope... How about the Seahawks and Pats. What about Matt Hauk? The Panthers....Nope. So we don't JUST go after former Carolina Panthers. And some Panthers have been pretty decent btw. Daryl Williams certainly comes to mind. And Starr has been pretty solid also. And AJ Klein certainly had some strong moments last season. The one blight from Carolina was Kelvin Benjamin. And he was a first round draft pick back in 2014. So he did have talent. Unfortunately he had no desire and was fat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Ob-la-di, ob-ba-da, life goes on..... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Addison also had 9.5 sacks before coming to Buffalo. Apply the same decline in Obada numbers. Expect a 50% drop in sacks. Remember when you said this? 1 13 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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