Malazan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: In other News, Water is Still Wet. Half this board would disagree with this.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Thats because the have a 5th round kicker on a rookie deal. We were 28th last year without a rookie kicker. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/2020/special/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 How in God's name is this thread 5 pages long already? Can Josh and Mahomes have their strongest arm competition already? Geesh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: It’s not just the money, it’s the roster spots. It’s losing out on young developing players for dedicated STers. Every single team has dedicated special teams. In the last 2 seasons, we were 24th and 28th in special teams spending. You're complaining for the sake of complaining. This thread is a terrible take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotme365 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. Can’t agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Draconator said: How in God's name is this thread 5 pages long already? Can Josh and Mahomes have their strongest arm competition already? Geesh... This is a special teams thread, they need to kick the ball, not throw it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 One year the Chargers were the number one defense and offense in the league but had a pitiful ST unit and they finished 9-7 and missed the playoffs. ST is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: He was the best thats for sure, better than Mario anyway 😈 Absolutely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: One year the Chargers were the number one defense and offense in the league but had a pitiful ST unit and they finished 9-7 and missed the playoffs. ST is important. I am not arguing for the worst ST in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 What/who specifically are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, FireChans said: Does this really add anything to the discussion on the board? It’s not funny, it’s not clever and it completely lacks in substance. I am so ashamed. I will try to do better. I crave your approval. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Patriots: Jake Bailey P= $1.6 million, Gunner Olszewski $1.75 million, Justin Bailey 3 year $6 million. Their coach is pretty sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: I just did. Next question. Went full moron. Went home empty handed. Alright... When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020 they had $4M dedicated to Anthony Sherman, Jordan Lucas and De'Anthony Thomas who were primarily ST and not on rookie contracts. 1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said: I am so ashamed. I will try to do better. I crave your approval. It's ok man... you're equally as unproductive as @FireChanshe created this dog**** thread... got proven wrong and then changed the rules for him to be proven wrong. He's been proven wrong again... stay tuned to see what he does next to avoid being wrong! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Since McDermott has been here, we have been 24th, 28th, 4th and 14th in special teams spending. Less than 2% of our cap over the 4 years has been dedicated to Special Teams. The Saints lead the league last year with 4.8% of their cap going to special teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Firechan.... Down graded punter... Restructured Matekevich.... Went w rookie kicker last year.... Let pricey but good KR walk.... What are you blathering about? Edited March 18, 2021 by RichRiderBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, TN Bills Fan said: Patriots: Jake Bailey P= $1.6 million, Gunner Olszewski $1.75 million, Justin Bailey 3 year $6 million. Their coach is pretty sharp. Add Matthew Slater for $3.125M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: In other News, Water is Still Wet. link ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, TN Bills Fan said: Patriots: Jake Bailey P= $1.6 million, Gunner Olszewski $1.75 million, Justin Bailey 3 year $6 million. Their coach is pretty sharp. 7-9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Add Matthew Slater for $3.125M. In all fairness to @FireChansand his ever changing rules... he did say what recent Super Bowl Champion, or hell, contender has dedicated this much money and effort to special teams. I wouldn't consider the current Patriots a contender after last year... he also disqualified the use of the Patriots in this argument at all because... rules? EDIT: He actually didn't say recent Super Bowl Champion... I don't want to misquote his geniusness Edited March 18, 2021 by JGMcD2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, FireChans said: I am not arguing for the worst ST in the NFL. How are you still going with this ratio? Has one person agreed with anything you've had to say? Quit while you're behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said: Firechan.... Down graded punter... Restructured Matekevich.... Went w rookie kicker last year.... Let pricey but good KR walk.... What are you blathering about? We retained Taiwan Jones and FireChans world is ending. Crying about special teams spending is like worrying about an aphid infestation when you have a meteor the size of Texas (i.e., budding QB controversy) hurtling towards you. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: We retained Taiwan Jones and FireChans world is ending. Crying about special teams spending is like worrying about an aphid infestation when you have a meteor the size of Texas (i.e., budding QB controversy) hurtling towards you. Fair analogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: 7-9 Matthew Slater has 3 Super Bowl rings and 3 contract extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. Yes. The New England Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Matthew Slater has 3 Super Bowl rings and 3 contract extensions. Please. You are insulting his intelligence. He disqualified the use of the Patriots in this argument. Even though it was after he was proven wrong... he still laid out clear rules! Just now, GunnerBill said: Yes. The New England Patriots. GunnerBill... you can't use the Patriots! He said so after the fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Bills fans and special teams. lol @Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: We retained Taiwan Jones and FireChans world is ending. Crying about special teams spending is like worrying about an aphid infestation when you have a meteor the size of Texas (i.e., budding QB controversy) hurtling towards you. You are sleeping on Jake Fromm. I remember a day 3 noodle armed AFC East QB coming into his second season and taking a team ready to contend to a Super Bowl championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I hate the coin flip too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. What money. They signed a punter less than their inconsistent punter would have cost, have a rookie contract kicker and a long snapper. also you MIGHT want to go see NE Slater when talking about SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, FireChans said: Can we please stop living 30 years in the past? ”Granted the league was completely different, the rules were completely different, the strategy was completely different and the coaches were even stupider than they were today.” So basically, who cares? So you're saying the Bills should fire Chan? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 The top 2 two teams in ST spending in 2020 were the Saints and Ravens. Combined record.....23-9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I think the OP meant to post this in Sabrespace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 It was just one player. An important one at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Lets get this thread to 100 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 The Patriots are operating like the 2000's Bills. The Bills like the 2000's Patriots. Signing a vetran wr, backup qb and a punter while NE paid millions for average players. Buffalo needs are limited and with good drafting they are improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, WMDman said: i mean it is 1/3 of the game... Uhhhhhh, No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Please. You are insulting his intelligence. He disqualified the use of the Patriots in this argument. Even though it was after he was proven wrong... he still laid out clear rules! GunnerBill... you can't use the Patriots! He said so after the fact! We can't use the Patriots. We can't use the dollar amount spent. What can we use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. I actually totally agree with you.........and all these veteran single purpose players block developmental roster spots as well......... but I gave you a thumbs down because you were on a roll.........the broadest set of negative reactions ever........well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Of all the worthless threads this is up there. Every team has a couple core special teams guys. Taiwan has some speed it’s not like they CANT use him on offense they just choose not to. I’m not gonna butcher the linebackers name Tyler M lol but even he played decent in spot duty. We let Roberts who can’t contribute on offense go, signed a punter who knows which way the laces face on kicks. Feels like you’re crying just for attention and the sake of trying to be negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, FireChans said: This is lunacy. This is idiotic. Can someone point out what Super Bowl champion or hell, even recent contender, that dedicated this much money and effort to STers? It flies in the face of modern NFLdom. Rule changes have basically eliminated the return game. Why are we signing top end STers to prop up this phase, instead of dedicating more money to the other phases that actually matter? The ST coach’s job on a team that’s contending should be to coach up a bunch of cheap backups and late round draft picks into a decent unit. Not need dedicated gunners being signed to modest contracts. It’s upsetting to say the least. Yeah except one of the problems is while the rule changes intended to eliminate returns, teams quickly figured out we can instead kick them short and deep and pin the team in on kickoffs. Well unless you have poor ST play then maybe you don't pin them in that well. Yup the 2 1/2 we signed are breaking the bank. Well I guess 3 1/2 if you count the punter. I suppose we could ask Bass to punt left footed to save his kicking leg. That would save some $$. From the responses so far sounds like it's only upsetting to you BTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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