Beane/McD zoom call today at 2pm

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, clayboy54 said:

It has to be to announce the Mack trade! 😈

[TheBeaneBandit]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

After missing out on Williams and Niang essentially being a rookie, they’ll have to go with the draft route. But it’s far from ideal. No way would I want a rookie protecting my $40 million man.

For sure. I hope Mahomey gets beat up all year long.....couldn't happen to a cockier douche.

[NewEra]

Nothing to see here.  It’s just to announce that Joel Klopfenstein will sign a 1 day contract to retire as a Buffalo Bill.  

[Niagara Dude]

50 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Severely overpaid for the guys they brought in and still have no QB.  Yeah let’s crown them champs!

They have signed some play makers including a stud LB ,  you could also argue that Beane overpaid on his signings last season FOR LESSER KNOWN TALENT.  Jefferson/Butler/ADDISON 10 MIL/Tyler Matakevich 3.7 MILL/A.J. Klein 6.6 MLLION and these guys gave us very little when you look at what they were paid.  

[Beast]

4 minutes ago, The Governor said:

They will make sure they hammer home the “keeping our own” narrative. That’s it folks! We can now go back to watching Golden Girls re-runs.

 

Yeah, I mean it sucks trying to keep what they feel are main cogs on a young roster that was a game away from the Super Bowl.

 

Right?

[davefan66]

I hope this isn’t a “keep our own” Schtick.  We clearly need a few upgrades to beat the chiefs and stay on top of the AFC East.  Pats are a QB away from being a contender again. Have a incredible team already, in need of a few pieces.

 

I get there was a loss of revenue last year without tix sales, but they still got their tv revenue. This better not be a money thing.

 

 

 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said:

They have signed some play makers including a stud LB ,  you could also argue that Beane overpaid on his signings last season FOR LESSER KNOWN TALENT.  Jefferson/Butler/ADDISON 10 MIL/Tyler Matakevich 3.7 MILL/A.J. Klein 6.6 MLLION and these guys gave us very little when you look at what they were paid.  

So?  Their Achilles heel will still be their QB. 

[Governor]

We’re going to need an explosive RB at some point and 30 is probably the spot where you should take one, or trade down and take one. It’s still a luxury pick but we won’t get laughed at for taking one there.

 

if Motor is our starter in week 1, that tells me that we aren’t as close as we think. I get what we were trying to do by not investing in the position but it didn’t work and it needs to be fixed now. Just do it already.

Edited March 18, 2021 by The Governor

[thenorthremembers]

12 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Im struggling to understand what’s so bad about bringing back a team that went 13-3 and made it to the AFCCG.

 

There’s still obvious holes to fill but FA has just started and we still have the draft. 

Absolutely nothing, but its not as fun.   Thats what all of the whining is about.  People had high expectations for free agency, despite it not being logical and when their expectations werent met, because they never could be, they got sad.  Too many people in their emotions.

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Absolutely nothing, but its not as fun.   Thats what all of the whining is about.  People had high expectations for free agency, despite it not being logical and when their expectations werent met, because they never could be, they got sad.  Too many people in their emotions.

 

I think we still have a lot of room to grow, as Allen's ceiling is unlimited and we have young players in Oliver, Edmunds, Davis, Ford, Epenesa who can all make jumps this year (fingers crossed), but there's a difference between 13-3 and a close loss in the AFCCG, and 13-3 getting mollywhopped by the AFC gatekeepers as everyone in the division will have gotten much better around us.

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I think we still have a lot of room to grow, as Allen's ceiling is unlimited and we have young players in Oliver, Edmunds, Davis, Ford, Epenesa who can all make jumps this year (fingers crossed), but there's a difference between 13-3 and a close loss in the AFCCG, and 13-3 getting mollywhopped by the AFC gatekeepers as everyone in the division will have gotten much better around us.

If all positions were equal I'd agree with you.  Teams around us have gotten better, teams who are in a completely different phase of building than the Bills.   There is a reason they had the money to make moves.  If we are being honest we'd say teams that didnt make the playoffs last year have gotten better.  And getting better just means they've added players to try and get to the level the Bills are already at.

 

When you look at the playoff teams from last year, tell me how the Colts, Steelers, Browns, Ravens, Titans and Chiefs have gotten better during free agency?   McDermott said it after the AFC Championship, the Chiefs are further along in their program than the Bills are.   Meaning, they know this is about long term growth of the core of the team.  Not pieces they are going to go out and hire.  The sad reality is the Bills will need to draft well and hope Josh gets to the level where he can go toe to toe with Mahomes.  

[Governor]

They’ve already sent them out there to deliver the narrative.

 

WGR's @SalSports on the #Bills in free agency this year: "Beane has a plan to keep the core intact, and he makes moves to be able to that."

[TheyCallMeAndy]

51 minutes ago, Doc said:

No, just underrated by you. 

If Beane drafts a mean NT (or two) to rotate with Star, that defense could look vastly different 

[Bangarang]

6 minutes ago, The Governor said:

They’ve already sent them out there to deliver the narrative.

 

WGR's @SalSports on the #Bills in free agency this year: "Beane has a plan to keep the core intact, and he makes moves to be able to that."

So what’s the problem? We were one of the best team’s in the league.

 

You’d have to be an idiot to expect sweeping changes and think we’d be big spenders in FA.

[Governor]

11 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

So what’s the problem? We were one of the best team’s in the league.

 

You’d have to be an idiot to expect sweeping changes and think we’d be big spenders in FA.

I don’t have a problem. I’m ready for the draft. I’m just talking some others off of the ledge.

 

TBH, I don’t think there’s any player worth breaking the bank for this year. Fans are just elevating their skill level because they want a new toy to look at. This happens every year.

Edited March 18, 2021 by The Governor

[Numark3]

50 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

They have signed some play makers including a stud LB ,  you could also argue that Beane overpaid on his signings last season FOR LESSER KNOWN TALENT.  Jefferson/Butler/ADDISON 10 MIL/Tyler Matakevich 3.7 MILL/A.J. Klein 6.6 MLLION and these guys gave us very little when you look at what they were paid.  

Dude, it’s easier to improve a bad team than a very good team.  Of course their improvements are going to be more impressive this year.

 

also it’s three days into the offseason. Could you be any more impatient or quick to judge.  Holy crap

 

 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Crayola64

[BillsFanForever19]

Glad he's doing this.

 

It's almost as if he *didn't* tell everyone at the year end presser that we wouldn't be players in Free Agency. That it would be difficult to re-sign our own guys and we'd be lucky to do it 😑

 

I get people hoping that was lip service. But after a bunch of releases, re-structures, extensions, signings, and re-signs bringing us close to broke - on top of him STRAIGHT UP TELLING US - I felt like I was taking crazy pills listening to people go "he can find more cap space" and "we're getting Khalil Mack!"

Edited March 18, 2021 by BillsFanForever19

[Doc]

23 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

If Beane drafts a mean NT (or two) to rotate with Star, that defense could look vastly different 

 

 

I hope he does regardless.  I don’t see Star here the following year.

[SCBills]

41 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

If all positions were equal I'd agree with you.  Teams around us have gotten better, teams who are in a completely different phase of building than the Bills.   There is a reason they had the money to make moves.  If we are being honest we'd say teams that didnt make the playoffs last year have gotten better.  And getting better just means they've added players to try and get to the level the Bills are already at.

 

When you look at the playoff teams from last year, tell me how the Colts, Steelers, Browns, Ravens, Titans and Chiefs have gotten better during free agency?   McDermott said it after the AFC Championship, the Chiefs are further along in their program than the Bills are.   Meaning, they know this is about long term growth of the core of the team.  Not pieces they are going to go out and hire.  The sad reality is the Bills will need to draft well and hope Josh gets to the level where he can go toe to toe with Mahomes.  

Yea, I agree with you for the most part.  
 

I would only say that the Chiefs saw a weakness at OL and dismantled it.  
 

I’m going to need to see a lot more from Addison/Butler and co., before I feel like we made the right move by not cutting all 3 underperforming DL acquisitions from last year to go after a pass rusher who’s, at least, younger with more upside.  

[LabattBlue]

I’d be shocked it this was to announce a trade or big name FA signing.  Word would already be leaking out.  Like others said, nothing more than we are glad to re-sign Williams, Milano and Feliciano...and welcome aboard Emmanuel Sanders. 
 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by BTB

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 minutes ago, BTB said:

I’d be shocked it this was to announce a trade or big name FA signing.  Word would already be leaking out.  Like others said, nothing more than we are glad to re-sign Williams, Milano and Feliciano...and welcome aboard Emmanuel Sanders. 
 

 

I don’t know.  If the narrative has been keep the core together, yet acknowledgment that the TE room needs to improve and Lee Smith has been traded, doesn’t it make sense that a separate vet TE will be brought in?

[Governor]

1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

I don’t know.  If the narrative has been keep the core together, yet acknowledgment that the TE room needs to improve and Lee Smith has been traded, doesn’t it make sense that a separate vet TE will be brought in?

Possibly on draft day.

[thenorthremembers]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Yea, I agree with you for the most part.  
 

I would only say that the Chiefs saw a weakness at OL and dismantled it.  
 

I’m going to need to see a lot more from Addison/Butler and co., before I feel like we made the right move by not cutting all 3 underperforming DL acquisitions from last year to go after a pass rusher who’s, at least, younger with more upside.  

Agree on the Chiefs oline, but its only in theory right now.  The dismantling has to pay off.    They signed two very good guards, but still need tackles.

 

I was very surprised they didn't move on from Addison and Butler, but I wasn't overly impressed with the Free Agent pass rushers either.    Free Agents tend to get this sort of narrative behind them because they are new and exciting, but you also have to remember they are available for a reason.   It's important to use free agency to supplement.  Hopefully they can find an edge rusher in the draft!

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

I'm at the point to think its addition by subtraction.  Good teams usually lose a lot of good core players in FA. We did not. 

 

All of our core pieces remain intact. Many of these players are showing improvement each year and understanding their roles on the team and play execution and assignments.  Some players didn't justify the cost of their production and they were let go.  

 

Those holes are being identified and filled. Haak gives us a punter who can pinpoint inside the 20 consistently. It comes at the cost of an inconsistent Bojo who could boom far but that's not needed as much when your offense can move the ball.  Sanders fills in for Brown and to me it's a wash. Sanders does some things better that fit into our offensive scheme. When you have 3 guys that can separate and 2 who make consistent contested catches playing with a QB who can rifle the ball into tight windows, that is going to be hard to stop. 

 

I think RB/TE will be addressed and we will upgrade from Kroft/Smith and Yeldon/Jones. There's a lot of serviceable FA out there and the Bills FO has shown the ability to draft well and deep. I think from this we draft one Day 1 or Day 2 and sign a vet. 

 

What's really left to fill before the draft?  DE/EDGE that can get sacks and disrupt the QB.  Epenesa was showing a lot of improvement over the year and I think he will step up and be a solid part of the rotation. I think we trade or find one early in the draft.

 

CB#2. As the market settles, I think we take a flier on someone and draft a CB Day2.  As is, we definitely make the playoffs. but I think Beane will continue to improve the roster for a SB run.

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Agree on the Chiefs oline, but its only in theory right now.  The dismantling has to pay off.    They signed two very good guards, but still need tackles.

 

I was very surprised they didn't move on from Addison and Butler, but I wasn't overly impressed with the Free Agent pass rushers either.    Free Agents tend to get this sort of narrative behind them because they are new and exciting, but you also have to remember they are available for a reason.   It's important to use free agency to supplement.  Hopefully they can find an edge rusher in the draft!

 

I probably would've taken a chance on Ngakoue or Lawson, given we aren't going to be in a position to take an immediate impact DE (most likely).  

 

However, I can't argue with the logic... Dupree/Judon don't really fit our defense.  Ngakoue has been on like 10 teams in 2 years and Lawson is good/not great with 2 ACL surgeries already.  

[stevewin]

Some early images coming in

[DJB]

Pretty sure Beane is just going to tell us what he's having for dinner. 

 

Move along people. 

Edited March 18, 2021 by DJB

[ROCBillsBeliever]

2 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

Most likely to talk about how happy they are to resign their own and not to expect anything else.  Meanwhile teams trolls around you like the Patroits @Niagara Dude have brought in new talent classic troll methodology and ket the inability to spell three-letter words, such as "key".

 

There... I fixed it for you.

[Niagara Dude]

7 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:

 

There... I fixed it for you.

LMAO THANKS ,  i would love to respond but you would end up crying and then i would get in trouble. BYE BYE troller

Edited March 18, 2021 by Niagara Dude

[KGun12TD]

3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Make sure they know that Frelund's future as a new Bills fan is at stake! 

 

I don't mind making her a fan...😜

[Niagara Dude]

2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

The Bills have done nothing to close the gap with the Chiefs.

I agree and you have some people getting pissed for mentioning this,  it is fact that we have not added a pass rusher/TE or RB with some speed. All things we needed to beat the Chiefs,  yes they cut two offensive line guys but they also signed one of the best on the free agent market

[Heitz]

Any chance it's the same Zoom call I'm on at 2pm?    

[78thealltimegreat]

Yep pretty much Beane acknowledging they are done...other teams even cashed strapped ones made moves this guy trades Lee Smith and signs Emmanuel Sanders and calls it a day.... life’s good when Josh Allen and the Sabres front office makes everything you do look better then you actually are 

[ROCBillsBeliever]

12 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

LMAO THANKS ,  i would love to respond but you would end up crying and then i would get in trouble. BYE BYE troller

 

You won so many awards for that attempt at trolling a troll police... I am sooooo jelly, right now. Wish I was as great of a troll as you, homie!

[Governor]

Ertz.

 

The #Bills have moved Brandon Beane & Sean McDermott's press conference back to 3pm. Was originally scheduled for 2pm.

[YoloinOhio]

Emptypodium.jpg

[CaptnCoke11]

Ertz watch 2021

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

3 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Sanders. That’s it so far. Always the draft if we don’t land any other FA/ 

The Chiefs get to draft, too.

[NC-billsfan!]

Pushed till 3:00

 

[Srw1525]

Now it’s at 3pm