billsfan89 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Is there any reason why the Browns are looking to trade him? Is he asking for more playing time? Is it a cap thing? Because if this is a playing time issue unless they are trading Singletary for him he isn't likely to get much more playing time with the Bills and thus won't be happy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Is there any reason why the Browns are looking to trade him? Is he asking for more playing time? Is it a cap thing? Because if this is a playing time issue unless they are trading Singletary for him he isn't likely to get much more playing time with the Bills and thus won't be happy here. Probably about to give Chubb a big contract and allocation of resources says paying two RBs is no bueno. They would be wise to draft one to play behind Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: He paid his dues. Was suspended for 6-8 games. These are young guys. Things sometimes get out of hand a bit when young people are partying. Not condoning what he did. But Joe Mixon got a second chance after knocking out the gal at Oklahoma. If he keeps his nose clean, and continues to behave, he would be a great pick up for us. Its pro football. Its not tea w the Royal Family. Lets not forget that. Yeah, sometimes things get out of hand when you're young, and next thing you know you're kicking a woman in the face in a hotel lobby. Happens to all of us... No thanks. Agree that you can find the same with far less baggage. Would rather have Kenyan Drake. Edited March 15, 2021 by Nelius 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: Kim Pegula being on board with bringing on a woman abuser doesn't make any sense to me at all. I mean, at what point do you say the guy served his suspension & moved on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: He paid his dues. Was suspended for 6-8 games. These are young guys. Things sometimes get out of hand a bit when young people are partying. Not condoning what he did. But Joe Mixon got a second chance after knocking out the gal at Oklahoma. If he keeps his nose clean, and continues to behave, he would be a great pick up for us. Its pro football. Its not tea w the Royal Family. Lets not forget that. Yeah, I can see where you’re coming from. Think we all make mistakes, but how long must we hang this over his head for? At what point is the debt repaid, especially if his past behavior has been remediated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I have a feeling he will end up in Miami I'm shocked the Jets aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: Yeah, sometimes things get out of hand when you're young, and next thing you know you're kicking a woman in the face in a hotel lobby. Happens to all of us... No thanks. Agree that you can find the same with far less baggage. Then again, what you just said isn’t the way it happened either...so there’s that too. Again, people need to reread the facts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: Yeah, sometimes things get out of hand when you're young, and next thing you know you're kicking a woman in the face in a hotel lobby. Happens to all of us... No thanks. Agree that you can find the same with far less baggage. That's a dramatic recap of what's on tape. Any kind of violence towards women is unacceptable, of course. But his action was not exactly as you're describing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, at what point do you say the guy served his suspension & moved on? I think a lot of teams likely have already done that. Kim Pegula being the owner is what makes me think this wouldn't happen. It's much more (to me) about a female owner than it is about a guy who's served his suspension. I'm not saying he shouldn't be in the NFL; I'm not even saying he shouldn't be a Bill someday. I'm just saying I'd be surprised if Kim Pegula signed off on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Off the field stuff is going be judged how it will by those with the facts. But his talent as compared to what is present there now is undeniable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, at what point do you say the guy served his suspension & moved on? Lotta historical family context with Hunt, by the way: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2018/12/14/ex-chiefs-star-kareem-hunt-family-criminal-history/2289525002/. His family's catalog of criminal episodes is ... impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I dunno about the people here acting like I'm supposed to want to forgive this guy for kicking a woman. Plenty of us have been out drinking and not proceeded to punt a lady, we're not talking about some common occurence here and some of you are acting like we're mad at him for peeing in the bushes. I don't want him on my team, ever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 years left for $11.25M is, IMO a very fair and tradeable contract..... Bills don't have a 4th rounder and not sure I'd want to part with a 3rd for him, but I don't think a 5th is enough. Maybe a pick swap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Then again, what you just said isn’t the way it happened either...so there’s that too. Again, people need to reread the facts. Yeah he didn't kick her in the head that's just not what happened. The most violent thing he did was pushing a guy who then knocked her over. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 The guy is an absolute beast. He brings an intensity to his game that we don’t have in the RB room right now. As for his past indiscretions and despicable behavior...I don’t know him so I can’t defend him. I will only say that when I watched the video after hearing the reports, I was expecting a Ray Rice type altercation, and it ended up being much “less” (but still despicable). More along the lines of a bad decision in one of those crazy situations only encountered by the rich/famous. The female wasn’t a family member/girlfriend or something like that to make it a domestic issue. Didn’t seem like a chronic issue just from the LIMITED info I have (and please educate me if I’m wrong as I’m not a web researcher). Just a bad ending to a party night. Lots of excuse making here for a person claiming to NOT be defending him/his actions. But I don’t think he’s an auto “No”. I also haven’t heard/seen anything bad about him since the incident. (Again please educate me if I’m missing something). Just some food for thought. If OBD decides he’s a fit, I trust their judgement and would LOVE to see him shredding Ds as a Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: That's a dramatic recap of what's on tape. Any kind of violence towards women is unacceptable, of course. But his action was not exactly as you're describing. It really isn't though. I just watched the video before posting to make sure I wasn't speaking out of turn. He kicks in the direction of her "head and upper body" if you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 If Kim Pegula was not on board with this there would be no negotiations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Nelius said: It really isn't though. I just watched the video before posting to make sure I wasn't speaking out of turn. He kicks in the direction of her "head and upper body" if you must. Come on. It's not even a real kick, if you want to be more precise. It's like a feint, to be honest. He makes more contact than anyone should, but it's not traumatic force at all. Designed more to embarrass than it was to injure (by my eye). And I'm not one to be forgiving of such transgressions, I assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: It really isn't though. I just watched the video before posting to make sure I wasn't speaking out of turn. He kicks in the direction of her "head and upper body" if you must. Then he apparently has terrible aim because it looked like he hit her closer to her shin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Is ‘kicked’ that lady, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Richard Noggin said: Come on. It's not even a real kick, if you want to be more precise. It's like a feint, to be honest. He makes more contact than anyone should, but it's not traumatic force at all. Designed more to embarrass than it was to injure (by my eye). And I'm not one to be forgiving of such transgressions, I assure you. Ah, ok totally cool then. Then put me in the camp of Kareem Hunt being a shell of his former self. Why would a competitive AFC team want to unload him if he's that good? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I guess I am in minority here but he is so unlikable that I don't want him no matter how good he is. I want to cheer for guys I like. Hear, hear. Precisely my thought on this too--I'm not saying these guys have to be perfect in order to be "rootable," but for the love of pete, not putting your hands (or feet) on a woman the way this dude did, shouldn't be too high a bar to keep. Edited March 15, 2021 by NoHuddleKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I'd love this.... but why would the Browns trade Hunt to a team they are going to be competing with for an AFC conference title? He probably wants to be a starter instead of being a rotational player which is what he would continue to be in Cleveland if he were to stay. He starts here if traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I would give the Browns our 2nd round pick for BOTH Hunt and Njoku. I mean our 2nd rounder this year is only 2 picks earlier than what Tyrod was traded for. It’s practically a 3rd rounder. Id do this in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think a lot of teams likely have already done that. Kim Pegula being the owner is what makes me think this wouldn't happen. It's much more (to me) about a female owner than it is about a guy who's served his suspension. I'm not saying he shouldn't be in the NFL; I'm not even saying he shouldn't be a Bill someday. I'm just saying I'd be surprised if Kim Pegula signed off on it. I dunno man. I think women are equal to men and can also make informed and rational decisions, but then again, I respect women. Kim is a literal Beast in business. I don’t think she has the luxury of making decisions through the prism of her sex 🙄 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: Ah, ok totally cool then. Then put me in the camp of Kareem Hunt being a shell of his former self. Why would a competitive AFC team want to unload him if he's that good? Why so dramatic? Can't we discuss this without being over the top about it all these years later? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 2 for 1 trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Richard Noggin said: Why so dramatic? Can't we discuss this without being over the top about it all these years later? As others have said I just think it's too much for potentially above average talent. I don't like him. He's no Nick Chubb, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Can't let Miami get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I'm shocked the Jets aren't interested. They probably are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: As others have said I just think it's too much for potentially above average talent. I don't like him. He's no Nick Chubb, that's for sure. Fair. Except he's absolutely "above average talent." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nelius said: Ah, ok totally cool then. Then put me in the camp of Kareem Hunt being a shell of his former self. Why would a competitive AFC team want to unload him if he's that good? The hysteria is a case of “ I know that guy”. I’m not saying he isn’t very talented, but you can get that production from other backs. Most NFL running backs look spectacular compared to the guys we’ve drafted who look stuck in quicksand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I'd love this.... but why would the Browns trade Hunt to a team they are going to be competing with for an AFC conference title? B/c the Browns aren't gonna be competing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Hunt is an exceptional RB. I’d be shocked if the Browns were shopping him - especially right after they extended his contract. The only exception being if there was an issue off the field or with a positive test. I have heard nothing like that though so I’m skeptical. That all said, the Bills should jump on a reasonable trade if he is being shopped and is clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: You kidding? Hunt>>>> Singletary.... even if he is still on the team. It is still a three headed beast if they add Hunt and if wanting to be a lead back is Hunts issue then he still might not be the lead back with Moss and Singletary here. I have no issue trading Singletary and a 6th rounder in 2022 for Hunt or trading a 5th in 2021 and a pick swap in 2022 for Hunt. I am more so looking does this give Hunt what he wants. Last thing you want to do is trade for a guy who isn’t happy in the new situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said: Can't let Miami get him That’s ok, they’re stuck with Tua. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Maybe the Bills can get Drake. He scored 10 TD's on a so-so Arizona team last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said: Fair. Except he's absolutely "above average talent." He was seasons ago. Is he still? People are in here acting like Kareem Hunt could change the franchise. Do people really think he's a top 10 back or something? Did the time change send me back to 2017? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I guess I am in minority here but he is so unlikable that I don't want him no matter how good he is. I want to cheer for guys I like. With zero tolerance and the fact that one more slip up and he's done in the NFL, I would take a flyer on him. He's had extensive anger management and domestic violence sensitivity therapy. The Patriots and Bucs feast on the Antonio Browns and Cooks, Dillons of the world. Try not to look to deeply into the emotional makeup of these guys. The majority are decent but every team has players with checkered pasts. Hunt has not had issues since he joined the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, njbuff said: Maybe the Bills can get Drake. He scored 10 TD's on a so-so Arizona team last year. There’s a lot of backs we could pick up who’d look better than what we have imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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