Tipster19 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I think so. If the the defenses isn’t physical, and they’re not, they why not make the OL the tough guys? The capabilities are there. Get rid of Morse while you can and make Feliciano the Center. Not only could the Bills save some $$$ in a cash strapped year but they’ll also strengthen a physicality to the OL. Having Cody Ford coming back this year will only reinforce that concept. Keep Cody at Guard and the ShnowMan showed me something in the AFC Championship game. He stepped up as a tough guy when KC was getting a bit chippy with Josh. I didn’t know if he had it in him but I don’t question that now. I don’t know enough about D. Williams or Ike but it wouldn’t surprise me if Williams bought into this concept. Either way having 2, possible 3, physical OL would be more than enough to send a message to defenses. I’d like to see another bad ass at the Guard position to solidify this. Someone like the Giants’ OG Will Hernandez would be a perfect compliment to this concept. Does anyone know if there’s someone out there, whether be by draft, trade or FA, like Hernandez? 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Heard Chad Wheeler is a free agent 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Referencing the thread title, one can only hope so!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I love Feliciano's attitude. But I don't love his play. We can save a lot of money by restructuring Morse. D. Williams should be the priority free agent to retain for the Bills. Then we will probably draft a guard in the high / mid rounds of the draft. If they can sign a good free agent to act as a bridge or competition for Ford and Boettger, that would be great. I really think we're realistically looking at Dawkins / FA / Morse / Ford / Williams as the starting line next year. With Bates, Boettger, another FA, and rookie as backups. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 bring back Richie Incognito! 6 1 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: bring back Richie Incognito! ok, that was funny but also true. i think one single nasty talented G makes our whole OL much better, with the biggest benefit in the run game. im pretty sure a guy like that should be available late in the first in the draft. dawkins, nasty rook, mongo, ford, williams could work out to be a solid physical line. pick up an actual NFL RB to work w moss, and you got yourself a stew goin' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 The kid from Alabama would due the trick he is a road grader in more ways than one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 What's Conrad Dobler up to these days? He punched Mean Joe Green. I doubt any of the current Bills would do that. Huh he's 70 years old. Maybe only as a backup then 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: I think so. If the the defenses isn’t physical, and they’re not, they why not make the OL the tough guys? The capabilities are there. Get rid of Morse while you can and make Feliciano the Center. Not only could the Bills save some $$$ in a cash strapped year but they’ll also strengthen a physicality to the OL. Having Cody Ford coming back this year will only reinforce that concept. Keep Cody at Guard and the ShnowMan showed me something in the AFC Championship game. He stepped up as a tough guy when KC was getting a bit chippy with Josh. I didn’t know if he had it in him but I don’t question that now. I don’t know enough about D. Williams or Ike but it wouldn’t surprise me if Williams bought into this concept. Either way having 2, possible 3, physical OL would be more than enough to send a message to defenses. I’d like to see another bad ass at the Guard position to solidify this. Someone like the Giants’ OG Will Hernandez would be a perfect compliment to this concept. Does anyone know if there’s someone out there, whether be by draft, trade or FA, like Hernandez? https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/wyatt-davis/RqKFMpqYjD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 when i typed in thug gif, this came up. you're welcome. 1 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, TailgateChef said: https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/wyatt-davis/RqKFMpqYjD Nice little tip there friend, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, scuba guy said: The kid from Alabama would due the trick he is a road grader in more ways than one. Which one? https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/alex-leatherwood/3DhRvgRBmc https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-draft-scouting-report--iol-landon-dickerson https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/deonte-brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, scuba guy said: The kid from Alabama would due the trick he is a road grader in more ways than one. Do kids in Alabama and other schools not have names? I don't get why people say "kid from..." all the time. Do you really not know his name? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, MJS said: Do kids in Alabama and other schools not have names? I don't get why people say "kid from..." all the time. Do you really not know his name? Settle down, Francis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, TailgateChef said: Which one? https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/alex-leatherwood/3DhRvgRBmc https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-draft-scouting-report--iol-landon-dickerson https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/deonte-brown I assume he’s talking about Deonte Brown since he’s a massive man who might be the heaviest guy in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, somnus00 said: I love Feliciano's attitude. But I don't love his play. We can save a lot of money by restructuring Morse. D. Williams should be the priority free agent to retain for the Bills. Then we will probably draft a guard in the high / mid rounds of the draft. If they can sign a good free agent to act as a bridge or competition for Ford and Boettger, that would be great. I really think we're realistically looking at Dawkins / FA / Morse / Ford / Williams as the starting line next year. With Bates, Boettger, another FA, and rookie as backups. Wasn't his best year, but Feliciano was a large part of the exceptional time to throw for Josh this year - speaking strictly on his assignments in pass pro and handling line communications/stunts. That said, agreed DWill should be the priority OL signing this offseason, bar none. As much as Feliciano helped keep our interior together, DWill was a man alone on the right island holding court with every DE this past season. Our interior is where we were weakest, particularly in the run game with Morse and Ike. Love both, but could see investment there being most prudent should we be able to retain both Feliciano and DWill. Wouldn't hate seeing us use #30 on OG/C, and hope Ford can return healthy. Despite the general consensus, I think Ford can excel next to either of Dawkins or DWill, and allow him to let loose more on run blocks. If we can draft and/or FA more interior talent, that would be my ideal offseason in all honesty. Won't need to do much to the RB corps with a line upgrade like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: Nice little tip there friend, thanks! I love this kid from Ohio State. Haha, just busting your chops. If you watched the Sugar Bowl, Sermon pretty much ran behind him all game. He will be there at pick #30. He's my draft man crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Thug is a word used in the 1930s for a guy that steals your ***** from the backseat a cab then runs away I am not sure how this will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Oh my god, is someone trying to build a bully... Oh, by the way, is that a foot tattoo... asking for a friend, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I'm pretty sure Fat Joe could play center. You just can't ask him to pull or move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I think so. If the the defenses isn’t physical, and they’re not, they why not make the OL the tough guys? The capabilities are there. Get rid of Morse while you can and make Feliciano the Center. Not only could the Bills save some $$$ in a cash strapped year but they’ll also strengthen a physicality to the OL. Having Cody Ford coming back this year will only reinforce that concept. Keep Cody at Guard and the ShnowMan showed me something in the AFC Championship game. He stepped up as a tough guy when KC was getting a bit chippy with Josh. I didn’t know if he had it in him but I don’t question that now. I don’t know enough about D. Williams or Ike but it wouldn’t surprise me if Williams bought into this concept. Either way having 2, possible 3, physical OL would be more than enough to send a message to defenses. I’d like to see another bad ass at the Guard position to solidify this. Someone like the Giants’ OG Will Hernandez would be a perfect compliment to this concept. Does anyone know if there’s someone out there, whether be by draft, trade or FA, like Hernandez? Don’t forget a thug or 2 on D who won’t be afraid to beat the crap out of QBs when necessary. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I think so. If the the defenses isn’t physical, and they’re not, they why not make the OL the tough guys? The capabilities are there. Get rid of Morse while you can and make Feliciano the Center. Not only could the Bills save some $$$ in a cash strapped year but they’ll also strengthen a physicality to the OL. Having Cody Ford coming back this year will only reinforce that concept. Keep Cody at Guard and the ShnowMan showed me something in the AFC Championship game. He stepped up as a tough guy when KC was getting a bit chippy with Josh. I didn’t know if he had it in him but I don’t question that now. I don’t know enough about D. Williams or Ike but it wouldn’t surprise me if Williams bought into this concept. Either way having 2, possible 3, physical OL would be more than enough to send a message to defenses. I’d like to see another bad ass at the Guard position to solidify this. Someone like the Giants’ OG Will Hernandez would be a perfect compliment to this concept. Does anyone know if there’s someone out there, whether be by draft, trade or FA, like Hernandez? You seem to be somehow confusing "stepping up as a tough guy" or being an enforcer, with being a physical OL. Other teams get paid. Their front 7 are strong and physical. Therefore, technique matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I think so. If the the defenses isn’t physical, and they’re not, they why not make the OL the tough guys? The capabilities are there. Get rid of Morse while you can and make Feliciano the Center. Not only could the Bills save some $$$ in a cash strapped year but they’ll also strengthen a physicality to the OL. Having Cody Ford coming back this year will only reinforce that concept. Keep Cody at Guard and the ShnowMan showed me something in the AFC Championship game. He stepped up as a tough guy when KC was getting a bit chippy with Josh. I didn’t know if he had it in him but I don’t question that now. I don’t know enough about D. Williams or Ike but it wouldn’t surprise me if Williams bought into this concept. Either way having 2, possible 3, physical OL would be more than enough to send a message to defenses. I’d like to see another bad ass at the Guard position to solidify this. Someone like the Giants’ OG Will Hernandez would be a perfect compliment to this concept. Does anyone know if there’s someone out there, whether be by draft, trade or FA, like Hernandez? Ford looks like a bust, i know most get upset hearing this but he is not very good. Wasted pick, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Thug is a word used in the 1930s for a guy that steals your ***** from the backseat a cab then runs away I am not sure how this will help Just keeping with the narrative...thug/mafia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, RiotAct said: bring back Richie Incognito! Take ten years off him and then hell yeah ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, somnus00 said: I love Feliciano's attitude. But I don't love his play. We can save a lot of money by restructuring Morse. D. Williams should be the priority free agent to retain for the Bills. Then we will probably draft a guard in the high / mid rounds of the draft. If they can sign a good free agent to act as a bridge or competition for Ford and Boettger, that would be great. I really think we're realistically looking at Dawkins / FA / Morse / Ford / Williams as the starting line next year. With Bates, Boettger, another FA, and rookie as backups. I'm not sold on Ford and to save cap room I'd take an OG in the one of the top 3 rounds of the draft. Ideally Wyatt Davis in Round 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scuba guy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, TailgateChef said: Which one? https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/alex-leatherwood/3DhRvgRBmc https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-draft-scouting-report--iol-landon-dickerson https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/deonte-brown Deonte brown A mountain of a man 3 hours ago, MJS said: Do kids in Alabama and other schools not have names? I don't get why people say "kid from..." all the time. Do you really not know his name? Deonte brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanjf Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 hours ago, colin said: ok, that was funny but also true. i think one single nasty talented G makes our whole OL much better, with the biggest benefit in the run game. im pretty sure a guy like that should be available late in the first in the draft. dawkins, nasty rook, mongo, ford, williams could work out to be a solid physical line. pick up an actual NFL RB to work w moss, and you got yourself a stew goin' Ritchie blew huge holes open for Shady... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm pretty sure Fat Joe could play center. You just can't ask him to pull or move. If we signed him we could rename the OL the Terror Squad. 5 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Just keeping with the narrative...thug/mafia? could have said "Enforcer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: I assume he’s talking about Deonte Brown since he’s a massive man who might be the heaviest guy in the draft. And as a result can barely move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 hours ago, RiotAct said: bring back Richie Incognito! Ok, but he’s only allowed to use the machines, no free weights!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Thugs, no. Tough guys, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Ford looks like a bust, i know most get upset hearing this but he is not very good. Wasted pick, I respect you’re opinion ND, I just don’t know. They kept flip flopping him between tackle and guard that this year to me will be telling. If healthy and only at guard, if he’s a bust, ok, move on. I just think they weren’t sure where to place him until hurt. You might be right. My guess is they will evaluate in 2021 and then make a decision, whether starter, backup, ps, or cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I love me some Denzel Good from the Raiders . He finally got a chance to play last yr and was very good. He won't cost much from what the projections are 6mil per season. He can play RG or RT and is a massive man 6'5 340lbs . I don't know if he's a thug but I do know he's great at opening holes in the running . LT-Dawkins LG- Ford C-Feliciano RG-Good RT- Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 9 hours ago, scuba guy said: Deonte brown I am skeptical of Deonte. He weighed in at 364 in the Senior Bowl. Imo, one of the biggest leaps from college to the NFL is offensive line play. In college, a guy like Deonte can maul other kids and flatten them. In the NFL, every defender is strong and fast. Some of these guys would be past him before he gets out of his stance. Others would get him off balance and tip him over. Now, could he lose 30 or so pounds, get in better shape, and make an impact? I suppose but I'm not in a position to say. Meanwhile, as the poem says, "Visions of Mike Williams dance in my head." 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I am skeptical of Deonte. He weighed in at 364 in the Senior Bowl. Imo, one of the biggest leaps from college to the NFL is offensive line play. In college, a guy like Deonte can maul other kids and flatten them. In the NFL, every defender is strong and fast. Some of these guys would be past him before he gets out of his stance. Others would get him off balance and tip him over. Now, could he lose 30 or so pounds, get in better shape, and make an impact? I suppose but I'm not in a position to say. Meanwhile, as the poem says, "Visions of Mike Williams dance in my head." He is a day 3 flier at best for me for exactly those reasons. The defensive linemen he is going to be facing week in and week out in the NFL have a lot more fast twitch and will be past him before he has lumbered up out of his stance and got his hands on them. I suspect he will end up with a LOT of holding penalties as a result. Although if the NFL is going to be as lax with holding moving forward as it was this past season maybe that should worry me less. Just not my kind of prospect at all and I actually think he will go a lot lower than people expect. I have seen a lot of people with round 2 grades on him but I'd be shocked if he goes before late round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I think so. If the the defenses isn’t physical, and they’re not, they why not make the OL the tough guys? The capabilities are there. Get rid of Morse while you can and make Feliciano the Center. Not only could the Bills save some $$$ in a cash strapped year but they’ll also strengthen a physicality to the OL. Having Cody Ford coming back this year will only reinforce that concept. Keep Cody at Guard and the ShnowMan showed me something in the AFC Championship game. He stepped up as a tough guy when KC was getting a bit chippy with Josh. I didn’t know if he had it in him but I don’t question that now. I don’t know enough about D. Williams or Ike but it wouldn’t surprise me if Williams bought into this concept. Either way having 2, possible 3, physical OL would be more than enough to send a message to defenses. I’d like to see another bad ass at the Guard position to solidify this. Someone like the Giants’ OG Will Hernandez would be a perfect compliment to this concept. Does anyone know if there’s someone out there, whether be by draft, trade or FA, like Hernandez? Thug was the best you could come up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I'm not sold on Ford and to save cap room I'd take an OG in the one of the top 3 rounds of the draft. Ideally Wyatt Davis in Round 1. Should've kept Wyatt Teller. Edited February 17, 2021 by ColeB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I think so. If the the defenses isn’t physical, and they’re not, they why not make the OL the tough guys? The capabilities are there. Get rid of Morse while you can and make Feliciano the Center. Not only could the Bills save some $$$ in a cash strapped year but they’ll also strengthen a physicality to the OL. Having Cody Ford coming back this year will only reinforce that concept. Keep Cody at Guard and the ShnowMan showed me something in the AFC Championship game. He stepped up as a tough guy when KC was getting a bit chippy with Josh. I didn’t know if he had it in him but I don’t question that now. I don’t know enough about D. Williams or Ike but it wouldn’t surprise me if Williams bought into this concept. Either way having 2, possible 3, physical OL would be more than enough to send a message to defenses. I’d like to see another bad ass at the Guard position to solidify this. Someone like the Giants’ OG Will Hernandez would be a perfect compliment to this concept. Does anyone know if there’s someone out there, whether be by draft, trade or FA, like Hernandez? I love the idea of a tough guy OL, but would have liked Felicanio to step up by playing well v. Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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