John from Riverside Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) I’m warming up to the JJ Watt idea On its face first I didn’t like it because of watts injury history then I took a look at just how many snaps he plays for Houston and you factor in the fact that we use a rotation he is in on literally over 80% of the snaps for Houston right now and would not get that snap count here so perhaps he could stay healthy and be the dominant player that we have seen We need an impact player on the defense why is nasty a leader in a play maker when healthy to make room for him Cut Addison Butler Jeffersonand do some restructures Edited February 3, 2021 by John from Riverside 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 He makes a lot of sense. He may not be what he was, but if he’s healthy in the playoffs, he can be a difference maker. I see him joining the steelers or chase his ring with the chiefs, packers or Bucs if Brady returns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Even though I cam sick of hearing about him (being in Houston) and his need to for attention, He most likely wants out of the noise and non-=sense of the Texans so if we can get him cheap, yes. He might give is a good deal headed to a contender with the Bills. a championship one thing he doesnt have on his resume. I dont think he is along term answer obviously but good for a one year loaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: He makes a lot of sense. He may not be what he was, but if he’s healthy in the playoffs, he can be a difference maker. I see him joining the steelers or chase his ring with the chiefs, packers or Bucs if Brady returns I think the biggest single mindset change for bills fans is that we are just as big a candidate for a ring chaser as any other team in the league now 9 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 He'd cost too much; he'd be hurt too often; and his play is too diminished for this to make sense, NOW. A number of years ago? Would have been fun for him to be a Bill. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think the biggest single mindset change for bills fans is that we are just as big a candidate for a ring chaser as any other team in the league now Agreed, we don't have to apologize for anything. JJ Watt would be a good get for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I'd be all for it also. Maybe get the last couple years of what he's got left. I'm not sure how certain things will/can play out, but if they can part ways with Murphy and whatever else Beane decides to do to get $$ it could happen I guess. I understand he's not what he was a couple years ago, but he would still very likely be better than anyone that's on the roster now. Also it seems like he hits a different switch at playoff time. So depending on how expensive he would be, I would be excited about it myself it things were to swing that way. 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think the biggest single mindset change for bills fans is that we are just as big a candidate for a ring chaser as any other team in the league now Yup, I would agree. 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: He'd cost too much; he'd be hurt too often; and his play is too diminished for this to make sense, NOW. A number of years ago? Would have been fun for him to be a Bill. Agree he would probably cost a little too much, however imo I think he still has a good 2 years left. I would be more concerned about his injuries and how many games he would play more than his play being diminished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 The guy would be good on a one or two year deal on the cheap, structured so we can cut him with no real monetary hit, his body is breaking down after ten years in the league, so it would need to be very team friendly deal. Jmo. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 He absolutely annoys me and I hope he doesn't come to Buffalo. BUT I'd trust this coaching staff to know if he could help the team or not. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: He'd cost too much; he'd be hurt too often; and his play is too diminished for this to make sense, NOW. A number of years ago? Would have been fun for him to be a Bill. Just when I was getting excited too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Do you guys really want him after what he did to EJ? I think he will go to Green Bay. Its close to home and maybe he and Rodgers can give each other the support they both need to come out as gay. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Do you guys really want him after what he did to EJ? I think he will go to Green Bay. Its close to home and maybe he and Rodgers can give each other the support they both need to come out as gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Do you guys really want him after what he did to EJ? I think he will go to Green Bay. Its close to home and maybe he and Rodgers can give each other the support they both need to come out as gay. LOL, you mean the DT having an 80 yard pick six? I was at that game, perfect angle, it was like watching in slow motion, you could tell when the ball was in the air it was headed to the other end zone. I will never forget that play as much as I want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Do you guys really want him after what he did to EJ? I think he will go to Green Bay. Its close to home and maybe he and Rodgers can give each other the support they both need to come out as gay. You would watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: He'd cost too much; he'd be hurt too often; and his play is too diminished for this to make sense, NOW. A number of years ago? Would have been fun for him to be a Bill. If the Bills can sign for a deal that makes sense for them then I could see it. I would prefer a one year deal. His health is a concern but coming here playing for a contender maybe he can give the Bills a solid season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Cutting Addison and Jefferson saves us $12.5M. I need a little of that to put towards OL. So if we can convince Watt to come here to chase a ring with a well-managed organization, at $10M/year, then I'm for it. Won't go higher than $10M tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I don’t know. I’m torn on the idea. I think he gets cut regardless of what happens with Watson. Problem is I don’t see him taking a low or short deal. I think we all agree we’d like to have him on a bargain deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 good for a low price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t know. I’m torn on the idea. I think he gets cut regardless of what happens with Watson. Problem is I don’t see him taking a low or short deal. I think we all agree we’d like to have him on a bargain deal. I dont know about that. If this were 2 or 3 years ago, we'd all be saying "He's already made $100M+ with a crappy team. Of course he is going to sign with New England super cheap in order to chase a ring". And then he probably would! We've seen vets do it a number of times. But now WE are that team. So maybe he would want to come here on the cheap. Especially when comparing the tone and culture of the organization with what he is unhappy with in Houston. I dont think it's that far fetched. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I think the biggest single mindset change for bills fans is that we are just as big a candidate for a ring chaser as any other team in the league now Not to mention our biggest advocate is current team members. This coaching staff is beloved by the players. This isnt your fathers Bills and the success of Diggs didnt go unnoticed in league circles. I absolutely believe we are a team that players w/o a ring would find enticing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Love the leadership he'd bring to the team, but think he still demands 13-15 million a year, which is very rich for a 32 year old defensive end. I think he makes more sense for teams like the Browns, Colts, or Patriots who have a little more money, but if the cap ends up more than the expected 175 million, I'd welcome him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 He's probably the most realistic type of option in our current situation. A 1-3 year deal with the 2nd and 3rd year being a team option and I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I'm lukewarm at best for anything beyond 1 year @ $5M But good grief, if we gave Josh Norman $6M for this past year, and left Trent Murphy on the bench for $9M, I can see the argument for wanting even the slowly rotting overrated corpse of JJ Watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Do you guys really want him after what he did to EJ? I think he will go to Green Bay. Its close to home and maybe he and Rodgers can give each other the support they both need to come out as gay. If Rodgers is gay he is doing quite a good job hiding it with some smokin' hot girlfriends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Bob Chandler's Hands said: If Rodgers is gay he is doing quite a good job hiding it with some smokin' hot girlfriends. The beards always are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Bob Chandler's Hands said: If Rodgers is gay he is doing quite a good job hiding it with some smokin' hot girlfriends. 2 words for you: Tom..........................Cruise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: 2 words for you: Tom..........................Cruise Isn't he the "frontman celebrity" for that looney cult Scientology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) If the Texans cut him then yes (He doesn't have a dead cap number). Which they should do if they're rebuilding, to give him an opportunity to win now. Even then, he;s looking at a minimum of Mario Addison money. 3 years 30M. Though the Bills end up saving 10M by cutting Mario. You're basically trading him for Mall Milano (which I would do without hesitation). He still had a pretty good PFF grade for his 2020 season Edited February 3, 2021 by appoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Do you guys really want him after what he did to EJ? Good point. I think we can all agree that our loyalty to EJ runs way too deep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 His current output is not that great. I mean he is a cool dude and would be great in the community and in the locker room but he is not the JJ Watt of 5 years ago in terms of on field production, he no longer exists. Severe back injuries are bad for a defensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 LOL at all these people thinking this is madden. "Sure we will take him, but only on a vet minimum deal." Pie in the sky high hopes here. He'll get cut for his salary cap figure but he's not signing somewhere for half of what he was making, he will get 14+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’m warming up to the JJ Watt idea On its face first I didn’t like it because of watts injury history then I took a look at just how many snaps he plays for Houston and you factor in the fact that we use a rotation he is in on literally over 80% of the snaps for Houston right now and would not get that snap count here so perhaps he could stay healthy and be the dominant player that we have seen We need an impact player on the defense why is nasty a leader in a play maker when healthy to make room for him Cut Addison Butler Jeffersonand do some restructures I just don't think he will come here. Id be shocked if he didn't sign with Pittsburgh to play with his brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I don't think he'll make a decision based on dollars, I think he's looking for a place with the kind of determination and mindset the Bills have. Where else can you find that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-free-agency-top-100-free-agents If so many think Beane can pull the strings to finagle Watt under the cap, why wouldnt he pick some of these off the FA vine? Lets the conversation begin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: You would watch. I would watch @Jauronimo's reaction video on Youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just imagine if we'd drafted Watt instead of Dareus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I think the biggest single mindset change for bills fans is that we are just as big a candidate for a ring chaser as any other team in the league now We def aren’t as big a candidate as the chiefs. Any team with Brady and Rodgers and teams that play in the NFC (because they don’t have to go through the chiefs to make the SB) are better candidates imo. The Steelers are (for JJ Watt) because he brothers play there. We’re probably up next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: We def aren’t as big a candidate as the chiefs. Any team with Brady and Rodgers and teams that play in the NFC (because they don’t have to go through the chiefs to make the SB) are better candidates imo. The Steelers are (for JJ Watt) because he brothers play there. We’re probably up next. Count me in as happy if we don’t get the self promotional JJ Watt but lol at the notion that we’re undesirable as seems to be the picture you’re trying to paint, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Hard pass. I find him obnoxious and tad un-genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, NewEra said: I see him joining the steelers or chase his ring with the chiefs, packers or Bucs if Brady returns If Pitt he’d get to play with his brother. Edited February 3, 2021 by iccrewman112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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