The running game has to be there vs KC this week.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

7 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

This is not a good take. We have had one of the best passing offenses all year and a fairly week run game. We have won 15 games by doing it this way. 

I think Daboll is going to stay with a heavy pass slant and he should, but I do think mixing in runs intermittently (6-8 times) can be productive. 

 

Just avoid trying sweeps to the edge. Learn from the Browns, the Chiefs shutdown everything is from the edges, and just hit it up the middle. 

 

And if the Bills haven't learned anything else, hopefully they stop trying to run on 3rd-1 because it never works. 

[Billever76]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Again...where does this notion come from?

 

Bottom line, I'm not saying we have a great or even a good run game, but it's shown flashes and it's been at least competent since the bye.  Data:

 

The league average for YPG is 118.9 YPG. 

The Bills have 5 games where our rush yardage exceeds this average

 

The average of the 5 highest-rush-yard teams is 159.6 ypg - so being able to rush for >159 ypg is excellent

The Bills have 3 games where we exceeded 160 ypg.

 

The league average in ypa is 4.4.  The Bills average is 4.2, which puts them 19th in the league (or slightly worse than average).  The Bills had 6 games where we exceeded this average YPA.  Two of them had lower than average rush yardage, showing good efficiency.

 

The 5 best rush teams in the league have an average of 5 ypa.  The Bills had 3 games which met or exceeded that - the same 3 games which exceeded 159 ypg - showing that the result was not simply the effect of rushing more, we were also rushing efficiently.   

 

One last "fast fact" about the run game - since the Bye week when we said we were going to focus on improving the run and pretty much settled into our current OL, our regular-season run game is averaging 120 ypg and 4.5 ypa (both above league average) while our # attempts per game has stayed at 26 - showing we did achieve some improvement. 

 

Unfortunately, losing Zach Moss may not help us sustain that.

 

 

 

 

What way is that?

 

A predominantly pass first offense and a sound bend but don't break defense...Did you really just ask that? Lol

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Mostly because the chiefs dominated our running backs last game when we played them earlier combined with the fact that we lost Zack Moss....combined with my lack of confidence in our OL as run blockers. 
 

after listening to Daboll presser yesterday, the way he answered a question regarding our run game vs the chiefs (I forget the specifics) just didn’t trigger positive vibes. 

that’s why I feel that way.  I hope I’m wrong

 

They did dominate our run game...it's not just the RBs though, they weren't getting good blocking.  FWIW, KC dominated our pass game too, in case that slipped your notice.

 

Keep in mind our OL that game was Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Winters-Williams, and Ford was playing hurt.  I believe results have demonstrated that Dawkins-Boettger-Morse-Feliciano-Williams may be an upgrade.

 

I'd like to know what you see as the specifics that "just didn't trigger positive vibes", because I didn't get any "bad run game" vibes off Daboll's presser - just that he didn't feel running was a great strategy against Baltimore given how they shut down Tennessee's run game, but run game will be a factor this week.

 

4 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

A predominantly pass first offense and a sound bend but don't break defense...Did you really just ask that? Lol

 

Yes, I did ask that.  My point is that when Daboll thought we needed to, in 3 games this year, we conjured up an elite run game.  In some games we've been "bombs away" at passing.  In others it's been all short stuff underneath to Beasley or sometimes Diggs.  Last Saturday, we won with insufficient offense and somehow conjured up an elite shutdown D.

 

We've shown all sorts of strategies to win this year.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

They did dominate our run game...it's not just the RBs though, they weren't getting good blocking.

Keep in mind our OL that game was Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Winters-Williams, and Ford was playing hurt

 

I believe results have demonstrated that Dawkins-Boettger-Morse-Feliciano-Williams may be an upgrade

 

I'd like to know what you see as the specifics that "just didn't trigger positive vibes", because I didn't get any "bad run game" vibes off Daboll's presser - just that he didn't feel running was a great strategy against Baltimore given how they shut down Tennessee's run game, but run game will be a factor this week.

 

I hear ya regarding the new OL. It’s definitely been better than they were last time we played.

 

I couldn’t tell you the specifics.  I can’t rewatch it right now, but I recall his general lack on enthusiasm regarding using the run game.  I just remember feeling like he didn’t want to say that he we’d be running more than we did.  Maybe that was just my distorted perception.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

15 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think Daboll is going to stay with a heavy pass slant and he should, but I do think mixing in runs intermittently (6-8 times) can be productive. 

Just avoid trying sweeps to the edge. Learn from the Browns, the Chiefs shutdown everything is from the edges, and just hit it up the middle.

 

We don't run well up the middle, and Moss was better than Motor there

 

15 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

And if the Bills haven't learned anything else, hopefully they stop trying to run on 3rd-1 because it never works. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2020_splits.htm

[billieve420]

I would activate Williams he brings a different element to the running game that Singletary doesn't have. I know this coaching staff prefers to stick with veterans but it should be all hands on deck at this point. I find it hard to believe you can be so one dimensional and beat the Chiefs.

[teef]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Lately the worst outcome for the Bills is gaining 8 yards on 1st down and then thinking "No way we can't get a first down running the ball from here".....

this team should never run the ball 3 times in a row.  i'm all for sprinkling in some run here and there...but three runs in a row...no way.  

[nucci]

1 hour ago, Toyo321 said:

We don't need to change the offense, we need to make it better.  If the weather is crap for this game with wind and rain, this will be actually worse than the Ravens game where it was just strong winds.  Josh missed some throws badly against Ravens that he should have made and we had receivers that could not make some key grabs.  Running will make us a bigger threat to KC and to just abandon the run completely stupid IMO.  Andy Reid is brilliant at exploiting opposition weakness and capitalizing on it, you can't play into his hands and mindset.  You have to keep him and KC guessing.  When we lost to KC this year we got killed in time of possession and also on the ground by KC's running game.  They ran the ball really well.  We need to do the same to them this time around.  I truly hope our D has a lights out game this week.  

agree but early forecast shows light winds...unfortunately losing Moss is big...I don't think they trust any of the RBs behind Singletary

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

They did dominate our run game...it's not just the RBs though, they weren't getting good blocking.  FWIW, KC dominated our pass game too, in case that slipped your notice.

 

Keep in mind our OL that game was Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Winters-Williams, and Ford was playing hurt.  I believe results have demonstrated that Dawkins-Boettger-Morse-Feliciano-Williams may be an upgrade.

 

I'd like to know what you see as the specifics that "just didn't trigger positive vibes", because I didn't get any "bad run game" vibes off Daboll's presser - just that he didn't feel running was a great strategy against Baltimore given how they shut down Tennessee's run game, but run game will be a factor this week.

 

 

Yes, I did ask that.  My point is that when Daboll thought we needed to, in 3 games this year, we conjured up an elite run game.  In some games we've been "bombs away" at passing.  In others it's been all short stuff underneath to Beasley or sometimes Diggs.  Last Saturday, we won with insufficient offense and somehow conjured up an elite shutdown D.

 

We've shown all sorts of strategies to win this year.

I'm hoping our offense returns to its robust form. 

[Toyo321]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I'm hoping our offense returns to its robust form. 

Your not the only one..

[MJS]

How many times have fans said this throughout the season? So far it hasn't been true. The Bills got to the AFC Championship game without a run game. They can win the superbowl without a run game.

 

Eventually, yes. They will need to address it. But its not going to happen this year. The Bills are who they are by this point.

[zow2]

Josh is the best player we have on offense. We are living or dying by him this Sunday.  The 2020 Bills are riding his arm and legs to make plays.  There’s only going to be sprinkles of a running game this weekend. I think the Bills plan on needing 30 points to win this thing, and they aren’t going to do that with hand offs to RBs.

[Da webster guy]

On 1/18/2021 at 5:25 PM, Frat-Train said:

I’d argue we’ve faced two better defenses than theirs so far and we didn’t need much of a run game.  Totally ok with staying the course.  

Our offense scored 10 points at home last game.  We will need triple that on Sunday.

 

Staying the course scares me a little.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Da webster guy said:

Our offense scored 10 points at home last game.  We will need triple that on Sunday.

 

Staying the course scares me a little.

We ran out the ball an entire quarter and missed 6 points of field goals and gabe Davis dropped a wide open td against a very talented defense in bad weather...saying our offense scored 10 points doesnt really tell the story.  Its like criticizing the chiefs for only scoring 3 in the second half against the browns last week

[Frat-Train]

5 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

Our offense scored 10 points at home last game.  We will need triple that on Sunday.

 

Staying the course scares me a little.

I think that was way more because of the wind which impacted the deep passes and kicking game.  

[Steve Evans]

On 1/18/2021 at 2:17 PM, Toyo321 said:

I don't know how they need to get it done but the running game needs to be on point for this weeks AFCCG vs KC.

They need to have some kind of running attack to keep KC from playing us one dimensionally on D .

Be it Motor, TJ or even Williams.  Something has to be done on the ground this week to beat these guys.

If we don't run the ball this week it could be as far as we go this year.  The weather could be a issue with rain predicted for 

the game so that is why it's even more important to get yards on the ground this week.

 

We only managed 10 points offensively last week, largely due in part  to our 90% pass to run play calling. I have a hard time believing we can succeed that way against KC especially with Mahomes likely playing. It seems like people think we had offensive success last week.

[Billsfan1972]

16 minutes ago, Steve Evans said:

We only managed 10 points offensively last week, largely due in part  to our 90% pass to run play calling. I have a hard time believing we can succeed that way against KC especially with Mahomes likely playing. It seems like people think we had offensive success last week.

The Bills scored their only real drive the second half.  Up 14 they were careful and made no mistakes.  

 

Add two missed FG's and a dropped TD pass (would have been a very good catch but was there.

 

The wind too affected the pass game significantly.  

 

Yes offense needs to be better.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

On 1/18/2021 at 9:40 PM, djp14150 said:

Last time I checked, things like screens or underneath passes to RBs are effectively runs.

 

its about

 

control the ball to use up clock

get TDs let them get FGs

get up 2 scores late forcing them out of a running game.

do not play prevent on mahomes. Play normal D.

Field positioning doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Time of possession doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Down and distance doesn't matter to KC. 

 

3rd and manageable doesn't matter to KC. 

 

I think the only way to beat Kansas City is to win a shootout. Hope that it is a back and forth game and your team has the ball last. 

[Nextmanup]

3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Field positioning doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Time of possession doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Down and distance doesn't matter to KC. 

 

3rd and manageable doesn't matter to KC. 

 

I think the only way to beat Kansas City is to win a shootout. Hope that it is a back and forth game and your team has the ball last. 

YEP!  They go into every game assuming they are going to get their 30+ points.  It may not always happen, but that's the plan.

If you want to beat them, you better get your 30+ points too.

 

The most important piece to this game is Josh Allen and an offense that has never gotten on song in the 2 playoff games so far.

 

If that continues, we'll lose.

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

57 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

YEP!  They go into every game assuming they are going to get their 30+ points.  It may not always happen, but that's the plan.

If you want to beat them, you better get your 30+ points too.

 

The most important piece to this game is Josh Allen and an offense that has never gotten on song in the 2 playoff games so far.

 

If that continues, we'll lose.

 

 

I just hope McDermott doesn’t force Daboll to overcorrect on the run to where we try to get too conservative because he mentioned being way too unbalanced Saturday night.

[Paulus]

Are they bringing in any new backs? I remember hearing they had a couple in after Moss, but no word on signings.

[JoshAllin]

I kinda doubt much will happen in the run game. I remember in last years playoff game singletary lit up houston in the 1st half then they completely abandoned it the 2nd half. So who know. Though maybe the weather may force them run more than expected

[DCbillsfan]

They need to run it somewhat.  In their lone loss this year, the Raiders ran out the clock against the Chiefs with a little over 4 minutes left.  Mostly runs with a few passes.

 

The Raiders did a nice job of getting to Mahomes with a 4 man rush.

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Field positioning doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Time of possession doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Down and distance doesn't matter to KC. 

 

3rd and manageable doesn't matter to KC. 

 

I think the only way to beat Kansas City is to win a shootout. Hope that it is a back and forth game and your team has the ball last. 

The Bills scored more points per game than KC. The only way for them to beat Buffalo, is a shootout.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Field positioning doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Time of possession doesn't matter to KC. 

 

Down and distance doesn't matter to KC. 

 

3rd and manageable doesn't matter to KC. 

 

I think the only way to beat Kansas City is to win a shootout. Hope that it is a back and forth game and your team has the ball last. 

100% agree but would add negative plays.

This will be like a college game. Very few penalties unless it is really obvious. The offense will have all the advantages.  Whichever team can hold the other to FG attempts instead of touchdowns in the red-zone will win.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

On 1/18/2021 at 4:26 PM, Zerovoltz said:

 

Again, just info.....I think it will be a tough game.

 

I'd be interested in your breakdown of the Falcons game. That was really one that easily could of been an L for the Chiefs late in the game if the DB doesn't drop the pick in the end zone. It was more of a defensive game compared to the two Raider games. 

[DrPJax]

On 1/18/2021 at 5:25 PM, Frat-Train said:

I’d argue we’ve faced two better defenses than theirs so far and we didn’t need much of a run game.  Totally ok with staying the course.  

You look at things from a very narrow minded POV. Listen to someone who knows more than either of us, someone who has played , is an analyst for a living. For example listen to Chris sims and his father Phil. Both categorically said the Colts kicked the Bills ass all around the field and the Bills got fortunate, colts leaving 10 easy points on the field. 

 The Colts were a  more balanced team and probably should have won. They outgunned us by almost 100 yards and won the TOP by just under 10 min. We won 27-24. It’s great we found a way to win, but KC is much more balanced. We didn’t fear the deep ball with rivers; against Lamar we only had to stop the run. Two games where our defense could focus on taking away the run , and we still came close to Rivers beating us only losing on a failed Hail Mary.  Our O struggled against the Ravens putting up 10 points!  If our O only puts up 10 points this week, I am sure we will be in trouble. 
 

Kc can run , their qb can scramble, they have a great tight end and they have deep speed with Mahomes able to hit anyone at any place in the field.   Both Sims stated the Browns offense AT THIS POINT, is more dynamic than Buffalos offense. Hard to argue as they have two good running backs , a good tight end, Landry , Higgins and more. Buffalo has diggs,,,,brown is improving , Beasley is hurt( even sims pointed out he ran the same route almost 100%), Davis possibly hurt , moss out, Knox is still Knox and inconsistent, devin is an avg back and they just use him as a safety valve and maybe 1-2 screen attempts a game. Even with a good running game, Kc still out gained the Browns by over 100 yards and Kc managed a 22-17 win. HOWEVER, The browns run game kept Kc off the field. Do you know what the TOP DIFFERENTIAL WAS?  Look it up. It was under ONE MINUTE.!  Kc just over 30 min and cleveland just over 29 min. There was no 10 min DEFICIT TOP LIke WE Had IN THE COLTS GAME !   
 

So make fun or belittle the poster suggesting not having a run game MAY BECOME AN ISSUE. FACT; Our passing game has struggled the past two weeks. It might be because we have injuries, or it might be because we are so one dimensional that it is getting easier to defend our passing game.  One thing running does do is chew up clock and help limit KC’s possessions. Right NOW , our passing game alone is struggling,,,10 points last week. I hope our passing game finds its prime again.  I hope our short passing game is on because I am pretty sure Kc will take away the deep gsme like they did against us before. Some semblance of a running game could  be huge for us., including Allen running. If we can get close to 100 yards I think it will keep the TOP close enough so we limit their opportunities to score and increase our opportunities.  If we are so one dimensional that we lose the TOP by ten min like we did against the Colts , I am pretty sure lightning won’t strike twice with us squeaking out a 3 point win.  
I get your argument , well we still won. Well, every week and every game is different.Let’s try to be objective, look a little more in depth. I sure can’t see any negative if we can run the ball, but I do see a potential problem if we only pass the ball. The remaining teams are balanced.   I hope we can be that anomaly that wins only passing. I just think our chances improve with being able to run as well. 😉

[Max Fischer]

On 1/18/2021 at 5:17 PM, Toyo321 said:

I don't know how they need to get it done but the running game needs to be on point for this weeks AFCCG vs KC.

They need to have some kind of running attack to keep KC from playing us one dimensionally on D .

Be it Motor, TJ or even Williams.  Something has to be done on the ground this week to beat these guys.

If we don't run the ball this week it could be as far as we go this year.  The weather could be a issue with rain predicted for 

the game so that is why it's even more important to get yards on the ground this week.

 

Counterpoint: Nope 

[Frat-Train]

2 hours ago, DrPJax said:

You look at things from a very narrow minded POV. Listen to someone who knows more than either of us, someone who has played , is an analyst for a living. For example listen to Chris sims and his father Phil. Both categorically said the Colts kicked the Bills ass all around the field and the Bills got fortunate, colts leaving 10 easy points on the field. 

 The Colts were a  more balanced team and probably should have won. They outgunned us by almost 100 yards and won the TOP by just under 10 min. We won 27-24. It’s great we found a way to win, but KC is much more balanced. We didn’t fear the deep ball with rivers; against Lamar we only had to stop the run. Two games where our defense could focus on taking away the run , and we still came close to Rivers beating us only losing on a failed Hail Mary.  Our O struggled against the Ravens putting up 10 points!  If our O only puts up 10 points this week, I am sure we will be in trouble. 
 

Kc can run , their qb can scramble, they have a great tight end and they have deep speed with Mahomes able to hit anyone at any place in the field.   Both Sims stated the Browns offense AT THIS POINT, is more dynamic than Buffalos offense. Hard to argue as they have two good running backs , a good tight end, Landry , Higgins and more. Buffalo has diggs,,,,brown is improving , Beasley is hurt( even sims pointed out he ran the same route almost 100%), Davis possibly hurt , moss out, Knox is still Knox and inconsistent, devin is an avg back and they just use him as a safety valve and maybe 1-2 screen attempts a game. Even with a good running game, Kc still out gained the Browns by over 100 yards and Kc managed a 22-17 win. HOWEVER, The browns run game kept Kc off the field. Do you know what the TOP DIFFERENTIAL WAS?  Look it up. It was under ONE MINUTE.!  Kc just over 30 min and cleveland just over 29 min. There was no 10 min DEFICIT TOP LIke WE Had IN THE COLTS GAME !   
 

So make fun or belittle the poster suggesting not having a run game MAY BECOME AN ISSUE. FACT; Our passing game has struggled the past two weeks. It might be because we have injuries, or it might be because we are so one dimensional that it is getting easier to defend our passing game.  One thing running does do is chew up clock and help limit KC’s possessions. Right NOW , our passing game alone is struggling,,,10 points last week. I hope our passing game finds its prime again.  I hope our short passing game is on because I am pretty sure Kc will take away the deep gsme like they did against us before. Some semblance of a running game could  be huge for us., including Allen running. If we can get close to 100 yards I think it will keep the TOP close enough so we limit their opportunities to score and increase our opportunities.  If we are so one dimensional that we lose the TOP by ten min like we did against the Colts , I am pretty sure lightning won’t strike twice with us squeaking out a 3 point win.  
I get your argument , well we still won. Well, every week and every game is different.Let’s try to be objective, look a little more in depth. I sure can’t see any negative if we can run the ball, but I do see a potential problem if we only pass the ball. The remaining teams are balanced.   I hope we can be that anomaly that wins only passing. I just think our chances improve with being able to run as well. 😉

Whoa....

 

I’m sorry you took my simply saying “I’d argue we’ve faced two better defenses than theirs so far and we didn’t need much of a run game.  Totally ok with staying the course.  “ as anything remotely insulting, belittling or a narrow-minded point of you.  I don’t know how you were able to conclude that my having a different opinion bordered on disrespect or narrow-mindedness, (especially since it’s been echoed largely by many of the posters that followed my post, and professionals who have shared these same thoughts), but hey...  No worries.  I made it through the storm of 2020!  I can make it through the confusion of your statement and why it singled out my brief, yet very respectfully written point of contention...

 

 

 

[Ramza86]

Nah. Throw 100 times. If the game becomes a shootout...win the shootout.

[T master]

They replayed the week 5 game and Singletary didn't do terrible in that game he had some good runs Moss i thought not so much but i didn't watch it again in it's entirety so he may have had a couple .

[YoloinOhio]

Great breakdown of the film from the week 6 game. I have no doubt Daboll is going to run it and no doubt the Bills will be better against their run game this time. Chiefs 31st in run DVOA. They are going to sell out in the pass game. Chiefs never ran against more than a 6 man box in that game. Sometimes 5.

 

https://theathletic.com/2329129/2021/01/21/bills-chiefs-afc-title-game/?source=user_shared_article

Edited January 21, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[SCBills]

If by "running game", you mean "passing game".... I agree.

[billsfan89]

Unless the weather is horrid it actually doesn't. Against Mahomes and KC you need to put up points. If you don't score 30 you aren't going to win. 

[YoloinOhio]

28 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Unless the weather is horrid it actually doesn't. Against Mahomes and KC you need to put up points. If you don't score 30 you aren't going to win. 

The Bills actually average more than 30 and the Chiefs avg less than 30... they need to kick it up a bit to win 

[DrPJax]

On 1/21/2021 at 8:41 AM, Frat-Train said:

Whoa....

 

I’m sorry you took my simply saying “I’d argue we’ve faced two better defenses than theirs so far and we didn’t need much of a run game.  Totally ok with staying the course.  “ as anything remotely insulting, belittling or a narrow-minded point of you.  I don’t know how you were able to conclude that my having a different opinion bordered on disrespect or narrow-mindedness, (especially since it’s been echoed largely by many of the posters that followed my post, and professionals who have shared these same thoughts), but hey...  No worries.  I made it through the storm of 2020!  I can make it through the confusion of your statement and why it singled out my brief, yet very respectfully written point of contention...

 

 

 

I truly apologize and didn’t mean to single you out in any mean spirited way.  I was up late and probably grumpy from not sleeping well as I just have an uneasy feeling about this game. I agree there have Been many posts similar to your POV.   So in no way did I intend to just attack or go after you on any personal basis.   I just was reading so many posts saying how we have won the past two games so why worry or change anything and many are saying we will easily beat the Chiefs.  Not many professional , less biased analysts, are giving us much of a hope of even keeping this game close. Fans tend to look thru rose colored glasses, a win is a win thing.  I was just tying to point out the Colts Best us in Top by. 10 min , and had zero turnovers , left 10 points out there , and we held on by knocking down a Hail Mary.  Maybe not a great game plan to look at and say, hey it’s ok, we won!  😊

 

I don’t think we can be something we are not, we are not a run oriented team. But maybe we better try to get something out of the run game ( we could afford to be one dimensional against another one dimensional Ravens team who was unlikely to blow us out) so we don’t allow mahomes an extra 10 min TOP, cuz I think that is a way we can be blown out.  So if it takes Allen runnin more, maybe bringing up Williams , heck brining up Stills or Duke to throw bubble screens or short crossing routes to, we need to game plan better/ differently than the prior two games.  We need to somehow extend drives to decrease how many opportunities the chiefs have to score. They have more weapons than we do, period. Going to be a tough game to win that I think comes down to coaching adjustments.  Please accept my apology , should have made it just a topic and not quoted you because you are right and that was not fair. 😊. This game is making me edgy ! Lol ! 

[LABILLBACKER]

On 1/20/2021 at 2:25 PM, motorj said:

I kinda doubt much will happen in the run game. I remember in last years playoff game singletary lit up houston in the 1st half then they completely abandoned it the 2nd half. So who know. Though maybe the weather may force them run more than expected

We haven't had a consistent running attack all year. Andy knows this. Moss is out and frankly Devin is relatively mediocre as a RB2. I'm not holding my breathe on Yeldon doing anything. And they don't trust Williams yet. So basically it's probably going to be Devin 7-9 carries and Josh will do everything else.  It's too late to resurrect any run game. That will be for next year (maybe?).....

[machine gun kelly]

LA, agreed.  We’re not going to change everything for one game, and we’re not going to play keep away from Mahomes.  That’s like a prevent defense.  It doesn’t work.

 

Consider the defenses we beat this year.  The Rams #1, Steelers #3, 49ers #5, Ravens #7, Colts #8, Chargers #10, and the only loss is to the Cardinals #13 (and was a fluke as we drive down to win, but that crazy Hail Mary).  We are #14, and the Chiefs are #16.

 

We've scored more points on offense than the Chiefs and had a stronger SOS than the Chiefs faced this year.  From the data point, we should be favored, but it’s the Chiefs.  They were going to be favored no matter what as the SB Champs.

 

If any team can beat them it’s us.

[Rock'em Sock'em]

On 1/21/2021 at 6:18 AM, DrPJax said:

I hope our short passing game is on because I am pretty sure Kc will take away the deep gsme like they did against us before.

This.

[Einstein's Dog]

10 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

LA, agreed.  We’re not going to change everything for one game, and we’re not going to play keep away from Mahomes.  That’s like a prevent defense.  It doesn’t work.

 

Consider the defenses we beat this year.  The Rams #1, Steelers #3, 49ers #5, Ravens #7, Colts #8, Chargers #10, and the only loss is to the Cardinals #13 (and was a fluke as we drive down to win, but that crazy Hail Mary).  We are #14, and the Chiefs are #16.

 

We've scored more points on offense than the Chiefs and had a stronger SOS than the Chiefs faced this year.  From the data point, we should be favored, but it’s the Chiefs.  They were going to be favored no matter what as the SB Champs.

 

If any team can beat them it’s us.

I contend we are going to play somewhat keep away from Mahomes/KC.   And this is because that looks like what KC will be giving up.  I think the underneath and swing passes will be open, the lesser priority, of the KC defense.   If this plays out as I am expecting Josh needs to have the patience to take the 6-7 yards at a pop until KC respects and adjusts.

 

It's not really changing everything as much as it is having Josh opt for the high percentage 7 yard pickup when the defense is schemed to try and take away the deeper stuff.