Silvercrw Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Mango said: I pinched my ulnar nerve sleeping once. I lost almost complete use of my entire right hand, and totally lost all feeling and motor skills in my middle, ring, and pinky finger. It took months to get it all back. Which was especially frustrating as a righty. Yup, me too.. same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Pinched nerve my backside, the dude couldn’t hold himself upright afterwards, not that my opinion means a darn thing, but someone’s lying through their teeth. https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/crosby-has-soft-tissue-injury-in-neck-no-fracture-1.1157283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/crosby-has-soft-tissue-injury-in-neck-no-fracture-1.1157283 Lots of things are plausible, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: So far, he got Choked out, hit in the back of the head, had the wind knocked out and now a pinched nerve. But yet he was evaluated for a concussion and ruled out of the game for a Concussion. Smh. A lesser QB would have tapped out. Be prepared for announcers gushing about Mahomes toughness all game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 So what you are saying... Patrick Mahomes is about to have the best game of his career? Just too crazy... This is like that Favre dad died game, or Jeter 3k day coming, why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/crosby-has-soft-tissue-injury-in-neck-no-fracture-1.1157283 Per the article, Crosby hadn't played for nearly 2 months as of the date of the article. Let's see how long Mahomes is held out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Per the article, Crosby hadn't played for nearly 2 months as of the date of the article. Let's see how long Mahomes is held out. They misdiagnosed Crosby was part of the issue. But indeed if it were my 450M invested in him he wouldn't play. 17 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Lots of things are plausible, Yup more just saying its not a given it was a straight up concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I just found the source for the pinched nerve story. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: They misdiagnosed Crosby was part of the issue. But indeed if it were my 450M invested in him he wouldn't play. That's probably part of the issue. Interestingly though, even after the correct diagnosis (late January/early February), Crosby still didn't play until March 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) If the story is true or not is not that relevant. Mahomes playing makes this a tougher game, but the constant comparing of Allen to Mahomes, that narrative that he is the bar that Allen and this team cannot step over, makes this the contest that many folks want to see. I get it, a part of me wants the greased rails into a SB, but it looks like we will have to earn that ticket. But if we cannot get past a Mahomes-led KC team then maybe we are just not quite there yet as a team. If we can, we go into that ultimate contest with the confidence that we can play with the best of them. I don't want this team to skitter away from a challenge like an iddy-biddy bug just because Mahomes is behind center. The same way I did not want them to give in to all the negative press about them facing the Ravens run game. Go out and execute and take it from them, or go home - that is the playoffs. Edited January 18, 2021 by WideNine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Mango said: I pinched my ulnar nerve sleeping once. I lost almost complete use of my entire right hand, and totally lost all feeling and motor skills in my middle, ring, and pinky finger. It took months to get it all back. Which was especially frustrating as a righty. I’ve had surgery on both ulnar nerves (decompression). Arms / hands were going numb while I slept and eventually started to during the day doing nothing. Would occasionally just drop stuff or have trouble gripping. Finally got bad enough to see a specialist and got an EMG and had some nerve damage in both hands from the nerve being “pinched” at the elbow for a period of time. Surgery didn’t reverse what had been done, but prevented things from getting worse. Glad I had them fixed but it’s been almost 2 years on my left one and a bit over a year on the right and it’s still very sensitive at the incision site (luckily very small). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Looked more like a choke out than a head impact. Not surprised its not a concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) If Mahomes was carted off the field unconscious and was exhibiting concussion symptoms tomorrow he’d still be listed as questionable for Sunday.....and likely cleared to play an hour before the game if he simply knew his name. Edited January 18, 2021 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, Nester said: Looked more like a choke out than a head impact. Not surprised its not a concussion. Did I miss where he exited concussion protocol? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: So far, he got Choked out, hit in the back of the head, had the wind knocked out and now a pinched nerve. But yet he was evaluated for a concussion and ruled out of the game for a Concussion. Smh. He was ruled out for concussion protocol. He will now have to pass all five stages of the protocol before he can play again. He can not practice till stage 5. He can not talk to media during the protocol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 What’s your name? .... Patrick Where are you? .... In a room stage 1 passed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Did I miss where he exited concussion protocol? No. You did not miss that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I’m more concerned about containing Kelce regardless of who is slinging it. That guy is unreal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 59 minutes ago, WideNine said: If the story is true or not is not that relevant. Mahomes playing makes this a tougher game, but the constant comparing of Allen to Mahomes, that narrative that he is the bar that Allen and this team cannot step over, makes this the contest that many folks want to see. I get it, a part of me wants the greased rails into a SB, but it looks like we will have to earn that ticket. But if we cannot get past a Mahomes-led KC team then maybe we are just not quite there yet as a team. If we can, we go into that ultimate contest with the confidence that we can play with the best of them. I don't want this team to skitter away from a challenge like an iddy-biddy bug just because Mahomes is behind center. The same way I did not want them to give in to all the negative press about them facing the Ravens run game. Go out and execute and take it from them, or go home - that is the playoffs. So in his presser today, McDermott got asked whether they would prepare differently for Henne and Mahomes and whether having Mahomes status uncertain changed things like, 3 or 4 times in 3 or 4 different ways. McDermott made the point that KC has a lot of talent on the field and that neither the talent nor the system that uses that talent changes when Mahomes is out. I can kind of see his point. You don't have to prepare for the "That Freakin' Guy!" DC-throwing-notepad plays, but those are maybe 2-3 plays per game that you have to be able to surmount, the reason they're "That Freakin' Guy!" plays is that they're next to impossible to defend. Hill, Kelce, Edwards-Helaire, and the rest of the talent are still there and the same scheming that helps them get open and exploit defenses are still there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: The people who have to clear him are independent neurologists not associated with the team. Yes I get that but it's not different than me going to the doctor and he asks me does anything bother you and I tell him no, meanwhile I'm in extreme pain. A doc could take an X-ray and tell someone, no your leg's not healed enough to play this week, but don't think there's any test you can be given to determine if the person really has a headache or not if the person says they don't. Does it make sense for Mahomes to lie about it absolutely not, but many an athlete would lie if it meant they play or not play in a playoff game. I'm sure he could be fined or maybe even suspended by the league for lying about his medical condition, but not something easily proven either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Per a report out of KC that was just reported on WGR. So if this report is correct Mahomes will be playing on Sunday. No links yet. https://www.kmbc.com/article/chiefs-coach-andy-reid-confirms-quarterback-patrick-mahomes-in-nfl-concussion-protocol/35245866 FWIW this physician is saying that there were several indications that Mahomes did suffer a concussion including a "fencing response", and of course the head doesn't need to strike the ground to cause a concussion. I don't know if a pinched nerve would cause that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 God forbid anyone on KC puts up a smokescreen right now regarding Mahomey 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I would not have it any other way Do we really want to hear people say we wouldnt be in the super bowl if PM had played? Play them healthy....beat them healthy And if we lose.....so be it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaxx Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I would not have it any other way Do we really want to hear people say we wouldnt be in the super bowl if PM had played? Play them healthy....beat them healthy And if we lose.....so be it No one would remember in a year. SuperBowls are forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kangaxx said: No one would remember in a year. SuperBowls are forever. Exactly, we'll have plenty to worry about if we get Green Bay in the Bowl anyway. I'd rather play an entire team of backups if it means getting another shot at a Super Bowl. Who gives a crap if we don't play them at their best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) The reporting on Mahomes status is all over the place. Holy cow. He's in concussion protocol, period. Every trainer (and most onlookers) knew that Mahomes likely lost consciousness and from his natural bodies response likely had a concussion. Don't take my word for it. Discussion on fencing response. Buffalo fans most notable fencing response seen. Edited January 18, 2021 by nkreed Formatting and darn autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 34 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Yes I get that but it's not different than me going to the doctor and he asks me does anything bother you and I tell him no, meanwhile I'm in extreme pain. A doc could take an X-ray and tell someone, no your leg's not healed enough to play this week, but don't think there's any test you can be given to determine if the person really has a headache or not if the person says they don't. Does it make sense for Mahomes to lie about it absolutely not, but many an athlete would lie if it meant they play or not play in a playoff game. I'm sure he could be fined or maybe even suspended by the league for lying about his medical condition, but not something easily proven either. There are baseline tests he has already taken before the season started that they compare him to. Until he does as well as those he will not be allowed to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Who cares? We beat them by 10 with Mahomes or we beat them by 20 without Mahomes. We have won 8 in a row by an average margin of victory of 17 points. It does not matter if he plays or not. I rather he play and take his L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I wonder how this affects his practice week. If he is "feeling great" like Reid said and he practices like normal, then no big deal. But if he is not feeling well this week and has some brain fog, it might have some kind of impact on his preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: I wonder how this affects his practice week. If he is "feeling great" like Reid said and he practices like normal, then no big deal. But if he is not feeling well this week and has some brain fog, it might have some kind of impact on his preparations. Assuming that Mahomes can only pass one stage at a time/per day, Mahomes can’t practice until Friday. There is no “normal” for the Chiefs this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mango said: Assuming that Mahomes can only pass one stage at a time/per day, Mahomes can’t practice until Friday. There is no “normal” for the Chiefs this week. Interesting. Does he still have to go through protocol if it's determined to be a "pinched nerve"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I would not have it any other way Do we really want to hear people say we wouldnt be in the super bowl if PM had played? Play them healthy....beat them healthy And if we lose.....so be it While I agree, perhaps that whole point of “what people would say” would be moot if we went on to win the super bowl anyway... Edited January 19, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So in his presser today, McDermott got asked whether they would prepare differently for Henne and Mahomes and whether having Mahomes status uncertain changed things like, 3 or 4 times in 3 or 4 different ways. McDermott made the point that KC has a lot of talent on the field and that neither the talent nor the system that uses that talent changes when Mahomes is out. I can kind of see his point. You don't have to prepare for the "That Freakin' Guy!" DC-throwing-notepad plays, but those are maybe 2-3 plays per game that you have to be able to surmount, the reason they're "That Freakin' Guy!" plays is that they're next to impossible to defend. Hill, Kelce, Edwards-Helaire, and the rest of the talent are still there and the same scheming that helps them get open and exploit defenses are still there. Yup . Henne has shown he can make enough plays with the Chiefs offensive stars to keep the competitive.. People should not write off the Chiefs even if Henne ends up starting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: Interesting. Does he still have to go through protocol if it's determined to be a "pinched nerve"? If it's a "pinched nerve" he is likely to pass all protocol-related tests pretty quickly. I've never heard of a pinched nerve that makes you unable to answer cognitive questions or track visual stimuli or whatever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: Interesting. Does he still have to go through protocol if it's determined to be a "pinched nerve"? I would assume that would be determined by passing through concussion protocol quickly. Make no mistake 5 days is absolutely FLYING through concussion protocol. You nor I could get a doctor to clear us to play bar league kickball in 5 days let alone play in the NFL if we even so much as hinted at a concussion. There is nothing physiologically gifted about NFL players that allows their brain to heal at some rapid pace compared to soccer, hockey, rugby, etc. NFL concussion protocol is an absolute joke and a very real danger to the health of all of its players. I say that knowing that Josh cleared protocols in a week as well. That shouldn’t be allowed. But this isn’t a merry go round, you can’t just enter or exit when it feels like it doesn’t fit. The only exit is passing protocol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: Interesting. Does he still have to go through protocol if it's determined to be a "pinched nerve"? He's in the protocol he has to pass the 5 phases before he can play next week or not PERIOD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) You guys remember Allen's rookie year when Derek Anderson got a concussion in the Monday night game against the Patriots? He never hit his head, just got pushed to the ground and was in the protocol for like 5 weeks. Not saying Mahomes is the same thing, but apparently it's possible to be concussed without hitting your head Edit : I found it on YouTube. Granted Anderson is older than Mahomes, but this caused a concussion and this looks like nothing Edited January 19, 2021 by Steptide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 This needs intense scrutiny nationally throughout the week. We will all watch as the nfl and kc conspire to activate him if he really does have a concussion. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Yup . Henne has shown he can make enough plays with the Chiefs offensive stars to keep the competitive.. People should not write off the Chiefs even if Henne ends up starting. We lost to a backup QB in Super Bowl XXV. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 As a paramedic I can tell you that you don't need to hit your head to suffer a concussion. "Coup - contre coup" is enough to get it done. Basically any force that causes the brain to slam into the inside part of your skull causes a concussion. Mahomes suffered a concussion to me no question. And I'm not surprised he has a neck injury as well given tackle we see on tape. He has 3 injuries that we know of: 1. A concussion 2. A neck injury 3. A toe injury 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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