Max Fischer Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 We’ll never know if the Defense would have played as without Murphy but he seemed to have a constant positive impact on containing Lamar Jackson. Overall, I think Epenesa has earned the playing time but perhaps the effort of “Murphy-the-Ravens-Killer“ is worth the off-season cap hit. Personally, I’ll take the risk of losing a starter next year in exchange for the opportunity of going to the Super Bowl this year. Sidenote: I think the cap rises and/or Beane figures out how to keep both Milano and D Williams. 7 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Murphy was more visible in this one game than the rest of the season combined. I’m not sure why but I certainly won’t complain. Thanks Trent! 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglientep Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Been saying it for a while, he’s not bad, he’s just not great. Smart player who had a great game last year against Balt. Helps to have “fresh” legs and know how to play contain. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Murphy was more visible in this one game than the rest of the season combined. I’m not sure why but I certainly won’t complain. Thanks Trent! He had the least wear and tear on his body at this point in the season. He played a great game yesterday. Week in, week out this season, role players have stepped up when it's their turn to play. His most memorable play was caging Jackson on one of his runs. He held his ground and then closed in. Looked like Jackson didn't want any part of the business decision. 8 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 In a sense what makes him inadequate usually; his pass rush abilities, were his boost in this game. He's a vet, he knows that he can't chase Lamar down but what he can do is use his experience and contain Lamar. Like an old savvy NHL defenseman, he used his positioning to make up for his declining athleticism which just so happens to be exactly what a D-line needs to do against Lamar. I applaud his work! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Murphy played well yesterday. But that’s also because his main task played to his strengths— he had to keep contain and set the edge. He did a very nice job. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 He had a rock solid performance. The run D’s weakness all year was losing contain via failure to set the edge and Murphy certainly held up his end of the bargain last night! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I have never seen such roster moves in my life. Our coach and GM were pulling guys off the bench I'd never seen all season, and adjusted our D to stop their O.... Better than I have ever seen. And wow is our team well coached. They are prepped for and executing in every single scenario. This is a SB team. I just hope we pull it off. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Al and Chris kept referring to our fast defense and I feel like Trent personified that yesterday. Skinny dude in a huge number flying around east to west like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 That is exactly was happening last night - players kept going across the field to make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 As I said in game thread. If he does his job then he's worth it. And sure enough he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Murphy was more visible in this one game than the rest of the season combined. I’m not sure why but I certainly won’t complain. Thanks Trent! For one, Daryl Johnson was hurt last week and on the injury report this week, so it made sense to activate Trent tonight. He's a solid player when he is healthy, and as others said, hes well rested after about 8 weeks of inactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Murphy played well yesterday. But that’s also because his main task played to his strengths— he had to keep contain and set the edge. He did a very nice job. Keep contain is his strength? Idk about that. He was pretty much the worst run defender ever minus both ravens games 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I guess he just felt like playing last night. To bad he could have played that way all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 He played his role. I wasn’t sure he was quick enough to help contain Jackson but he played up for the game. Very nice depth to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 He made Lamar panic which is usually what Lamar does to other guys. Trent was like I’m not gonna be a meme today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, NewEra said: Keep contain is his strength? Idk about that. He was pretty much the worst run defender ever minus both ravens games i sort of think of keeping contain as a different thing than stopping the run. He basically had to set the edge— make sure no one (esp Lamar) got to the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i sort of think of keeping contain as a different thing than stopping the run. He basically had to set the edge— make sure no one (esp Lamar) got to the edge. Murphy hasn’t been good at keeping contain. You might think that he was good at it.....but he was never good at it. He’s been extremely undisciplined. In both ravens games, he was amazing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Harry has played much better since being sat down as well. Sometimes it takes some perspective. Murph did us solid this week, and he may get another chance for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 This was my favorite article from last week, and it applies to Murphy, who I think has the athleticism to deal with Baltimore’s o-line maulers, who are the exact opposite (in terms of athletic profile) of Indy’s o-line: https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/xs-and-os-column-task-for-bills-d-line-goes-from-dancing-bears-to-big/article_d2585aba-55d7-11eb-a0b3-4be0ffb75d3e.html “The Buffalo Bills faced the most athletic offensive line in the NFL last week. The Indianapolis Colts have a group of dancing bears. There’s an analytic measurement called RAS – the Relative Athletic Score. It puts draft prospects’ measurements (height, weight, 40 time, vertical jump, etc.) on a scale of zero to 10 in comparison with all the other players at his position. The Colts are a freak show. Four of their five starters are 9.4 or better, with tackle Braden Smith at 9.72 and guard Quenton Nelson at 9.67. This week the Bills face an entirely different animal. If you looked at the RAS numbers, you’d think the Ravens’ offensive line stinks. All five of their starters were below 5.0 entering the draft. Left tackle Orlando Brown is 0.7. Right tackle Tyre Phillips is 2.24. Left guard Bradley Bozeman is 1.19.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 51 minutes ago, peterpan said: I have never seen such roster moves in my life. Our coach and GM were pulling guys off the bench I'd never seen all season, and adjusted our D to stop their O.... Better than I have ever seen. And wow is our team well coached. They are prepped for and executing in every single scenario. This is a SB team. I just hope we pull it off. This is what sticking to the process of constant roster building and playing who is playing the best get you. The wins just happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Toejam 34 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) As many times as Murphy set the edge correctly last night (including the one play for a loss), he also bit on the RB fake numerous times early in the game. Maybe he had Frazier get in his ear hear telling him to remember to be his part of being 1 of 11. As Bellicheat would say "DO.....YOUR........JOB" Edited January 17, 2021 by Turf Toejam 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Murphy hasn’t been good at keeping contain. You might think that he was good at it.....but he was never good at it. He’s been extremely undisciplined. In both ravens games, he was amazing i guess I should clarify. He has the length and speed to do it, when asked to do it. I don’t think at any point in time he was asked last night to rush hard to go after Lamar, and lose that edge. I will also say that the Bills entire D-line was exceptional at containing Lamar and not losing contain. They didn’t make a single mistake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Keep contain is his strength? Idk about that. He was pretty much the worst run defender ever minus both ravens games Thanks for the play last night and a few moments here and there but he was signed to a three year $22.5 million contract. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/sort-value/buffalo-bills/limit-100/ Ninth highest paid player on team. Injuries aside did he play to that level when healthy? Was he our ninth best player when out there. Much cheaper guys out there who could have done what he did (look at his three year stat total): https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MurpTr00.htm Hard pass from me. Just didn’t work out. That’s life. Think the money is better spent on trying to keep Daryl Williams (protecting the franchise), Milano or his replacement, better CB opposite White, etc. Or, if not possible, elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said: Thanks for the play last night and a few moments here and there but he was signed to a three year $22.5 million contract. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/sort-value/buffalo-bills/limit-100/ Ninth highest paid player on team. Injuries aside did he play to that level when healthy? Was he our ninth best player when out there. Much cheaper guys out there who could have done what he did (look at his three year stat total): https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MurpTr00.htm Hard pass from me. Just didn’t work out. That’s life. Think the money is better spent on trying to keep Daryl Williams (protecting the franchise), Milano or his replacement, better CB opposite White, etc. Or, if not possible, elsewhere. Who’s considering resigning Murphy next season? Certainly not me.....or any other Bills fan. Hopefully not Beane either. Edited January 17, 2021 by NewEra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, NewEra said: Murphy hasn’t been good at keeping contain. You might think that he was good at it.....but he was never good at it. He’s been extremely undisciplined. In both ravens games, he was amazing Yes, and he actually allowed one big run by their back on an option play because he went for Jackson. I honestly believe he was assigned to be the Jackson Spy, he went for him every time there was an option and he was VERY disciplined in keeping him in front of him, none of that is what Murphy usually does. I feel like they have him ONE job and he executed it well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Murphy was more visible in this one game than the rest of the season combined. I’m not sure why but I certainly won’t complain. Thanks Trent! lol because he was inactive for most of the other games 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I have been pretty defensive of Murphy all along. I think he gets way to much hate around these parts. The guy isn’t great and he has been banged up...but when he’s out there he plays with a burst. He plays super hard and plays through the echo of the whistle. He absolutely at least effects the qbs timing when he’s on the field. I think he’s a solid player and should be rotated in a lot more then he is. I’m a Hughes/Murphy/AJ guy with our current DEs. He’s a Bills message board dinosaur. There always used to be a guy or two that got decent money, that just got hammered daily because he wasn’t flashing like crazy. It doesn’t happen as much now because we are actually good but 2009-2015 it was constant. Murphy played well last night and was a big reason for that performance. I have never heard him complain about not being out there and when he got the call to go in, he stepped up and was more then ready. Go Bills!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 His BEST play was smashing Lamar’s head into the end zone turf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 he's always in position to make plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I have been telling you guys this defense is better with him in there. Was so glad to see they finally did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Harry has played much better since being sat down as well. Sometimes it takes some perspective. Murph did us solid this week, and he may get another chance for it. It took Harry the better part of the season to trust his knee. I think that's why they sat him and he's responded. Trent was worth the cap hit last night. He's like Shaq on setting the edge. Nice if we can sign him at a much lower rate as a role player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 He delivered the hammer on Lamar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Great effort by a guy who had to ride the pine most of the season. Everything is coming together for this squad and we're halfway home! Good luck where you go next near, Trent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, eee1776 said: I guess he just felt like playing last night. To bad he could have played that way all year. Yeah and if he did... we coulda won the division and won at least 12 games. If only.... On a less sarcastic note, I think Murphy exemplifies the way Beane has built this team and the way the coaches coach it. We have a solid roster top to bottom, including Practice Squad players all fulfilling a specific role and weekly, often widely divergent game plans. Coming in to yesterday’s game, who ..knee for certain.. Murphy was going to play and perform like that. We expected more 4-3 sets, but how much? Would we run the ball? Feature more McKenzie sweeps? There were questions all over about which players would suit up and what roles they would perform. And you have to know the Ravens had the same questions. It makes the team hard to prepare for. And what’s better, when these guys get plugged in, like last night, the perform big time! It’s so impressive. The way they’re specifically game planning, not just plays and formations, but players and rotations on the lines for each opponent and each opportunity. I genuinely hope we keep this team and coaching staff together for several more years. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 4 hours ago, taglientep said: Been saying it for a while, he’s not bad, he’s just not great. Smart player who had a great game last year against Balt. Helps to have “fresh” legs and know how to play contain. Sets the edge well, as did Shaq. It’s perfect for playing Baltimore and containing Jackson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 This season has shown that you need the entire roster to win. You need depth and complimentary skillsets. Kudos to Beane for building this roster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: Sooo every time he looked at Lamar he saw an eight pointer on top of his head??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: Sooo every time he looked at Lamar he saw an eight pointer on top of his head??? I think so. Check Murphy's on field view of Lamar when he rushed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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