Potential for interesting weather if game played Sunday

[buffalo2218]

3 hours ago, dayman said:

Huge snow storm v. Ravens would be a disaster

I'd trust Allen passing more than I would Jackson in inclement conditions. RPO would be slowed down quite a bit

[benderbender]

Where is this experience this team has in the snow? You’re confusing this current roster with another.

[CincyBillsFan]

Earlier this year NE played the Ravens on a rainy night.  The first half wasn't bad and the Ravens did okay on O.  But the 4th quarter had heavy rain and the Ravens were shut out that quarter and lost the game 23 - 17.  Bad weather clearly hurt the Ravens that night.

 

 

[JoshAllin]

If I'm not mistaken the kc game was played under bad weather.  I'm not sure who has the advantage

[Billever76]

1 minute ago, motorj said:

If I'm not mistaken the kc game was played under bad weather.  I'm not sure who has the advantage

Allen had a separated shoulder and 6 Bills starters were out

[Steve Evans]

11 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

People - snow IS NOT detrimental to a passing game unless it’s heavy like the 2017 Indy game. Think of all the Jim Kelly playoff games. Footing is not nearly the issue for the WR who knows where he’s going as it is to the DB who’s reacting to the route

I remember the 1991 AFC Championship against the Raiders in some pretty rough snowy weather. I remember Kelly having a strong day through the air if I'm recalling correctly. Pretty sure that the receivers have a strong advantage on a slick field because they have the advantage of knowing which direction they are going, in contrast to the defenders trying to cover.

[reddogblitz]

9 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Remember he played for a tie in that game....

 

We won and made the playoffs as a result.

Edited January 11, 2021 by reddogblitz

[mannc]

52 minutes ago, Steve Evans said:

I remember the 1991 AFC Championship against the Raiders in some pretty rough snowy weather. I remember Kelly having a strong day through the air if I'm recalling correctly. Pretty sure that the receivers have a strong advantage on a slick field because they have the advantage of knowing which direction they are going, in contrast to the defenders trying to cover.

I don’t remember that about the Raiders game (I know it was cold but don’t remember snow), but I do remember Kelly shredding the Dolphins in the snow in the divisional game.

[Steve Evans]

14 minutes ago, mannc said:

I don’t remember that about the Raiders game (I know it was cold but don’t remember snow), but I do remember Kelly shredding the Dolphins in the snow in the divisional game.

I searched for pictures from the game and my memory must be fading with age. You were right, it looked very cold and the best I could find were piles of snow pushed against the stands. I never realized that game and probably many games, can be seen in entirety on YouTube!!

[27yanks]

Advantage Gun Slinger!!! Receivers know where they are going, DB's are at a disadvantage. OL has to come up big this weekend. Schnowie weather calls for trench warfare.

[SectionC3]

5 hours ago, Steve Evans said:

I remember the 1991 AFC Championship against the Raiders in some pretty rough snowy weather. I remember Kelly having a strong day through the air if I'm recalling correctly. Pretty sure that the receivers have a strong advantage on a slick field because they have the advantage of knowing which direction they are going, in contrast to the defenders trying to cover.

 

Wrong game.  It flurried a bit, and the field might have been slick.  But I think you’re probably remembering the Divisional Round game against the Dolphins that year.  The field had to be brushed at the half because of the snow.  Otherwise, I agree with you; as long as there isn’t too much snow, and as long as there isn’t too much wind, receivers will have an advantage because they know where they’re going. 

[4_kidd_4]

18 minutes ago, 27yanks said:

Receivers know where they are going, DB's are at a disadvantage. 

 

This is the biggest plus for offense in slick conditions. That fraction of a second can be all the difference.

[zow2]

It's Greg Roman.. Balt is a run heavy team and of course Lamar is part of that.  If the weather is crap, that hurts the Bills imo.

Edited January 11, 2021 by zow2

[dlonce]

4 hours ago, Steve Evans said:

I searched for pictures from the game and my memory must be fading with age. You were right, it looked very cold and the best I could find were piles of snow pushed against the stands. I never realized that game and probably many games, can be seen in entirety on YouTube!!

It was brutally cold. Our beers froze and god forbid you had a mustache.

It wasn’t snowing from what I remember but there was wind. Wind chill was like minus 35.

Wind is the issue.

Snow helps the offense unless it’s heavy snow. 
 

predicting weather in WNY a week away is futile. Who knows what lurks ahead.

[SCBills]

Root against high winds, cold rain and/or heavy snow.

 

You can throw in light to moderate snow... in fact, it tends to help the passing game.  

 

Edited January 11, 2021 by SCBills

[Boatdrinks]

Raiders AFC championship game in 1991 was not a weather game. If it was played a day or even two days before, it may have been. But the weather was fine that day, not really frigid at all maybe a light mist of precipitation. The divisional round vs Miami the previous week got snowy at times. The divisional round vs Raiders in January 94 was the frigid, bone chilling game with negative windchill. 

    Anyway, the last thing Bills fans should hope for is a weather game vs the Ravens this Saturday night. It most certainly would not favor Buffalo; this team isn’t built for a slow track slugfest and major snow issues would give Jackson the edge. 

Hope for a clean field , perhaps a slight bit of snow and little wind. The Bills need to pass often and score often to win this matchup. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

19 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Im praying for the game to be Sat evening which is Sunday noon at my local bar...

 

Cant watch another Bills playoff game sober... ( Colts game kicked off at 5am..)

You’re prayers were answered.  Did you happen to ask for a win? 

12 hours ago, benderbender said:

Where is this experience this team has in the snow? You’re confusing this current roster with another.

You know, mccoy, Benjamin, Tyrod...  

[WEATHER DOT COM]

12 hours ago, buffalo2218 said:

I'd trust Allen passing more than I would Jackson in inclement conditions. RPO would be slowed down quite a bit

 

I'd Also trust Allen's power running over Jackson's shiftiness in a snowy field...

 

Though Baltimore's backs are much better.

[frostbitmic]

19 hours ago, Steptide said:

I DO NOT want bad weather. Our weakest part of the offense is the run game. 

You want singletery and moss/Williams carrying the team on their shoulders? 

I don't want them touching the ball except maybe on a pass play. It gets tiring watching 1 and 2 yard runs from our RB's

 

 

[Big Turk]

13 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Earlier this year NE played the Ravens on a rainy night.  The first half wasn't bad and the Ravens did okay on O.  But the 4th quarter had heavy rain and the Ravens were shut out that quarter and lost the game 23 - 17.  Bad weather clearly hurt the Ravens that night.

 

 

 

Bad weather would slow players down and come close to equalizing short area speed meaning Jackson would not be able to accelerate as quickly 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

You know who thrives in a heavy snow storm? 
 

Antonio “Harkens” Williams. 
 

give Dubya a chance, Coach!! 

[Fleezoid]

20 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

People - snow IS NOT detrimental to a passing game unless it’s heavy like the 2017 Indy game. Think of all the Jim Kelly playoff games. Footing is not nearly the issue for the WR who knows where he’s going as it is to the DB who’s reacting to the route

^^^^ This exactly. DBs have to react, and that's more difficult than a receiver making subtle moves in their routes.

[zow2]

Latest NWS forecast says a lake effect band will be setting up Saturday eve into Sunday. Expect significant snow south of Buffalo.

[PromoTheRobot]

29 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Latest NWS forecast says a lake effect band will be setting up Saturday eve into Sunday. Expect significant snow south of Buffalo.

I hope Lamar wears the same cleats from the Browns "cramps" game. He was slipping all night.

[Whites Bay]

60% chance of snow, and west winds 9 mph - 13 mph.  Wonder what that means for the gusts?

 

Sharp, high-speed jukes are going to be hard for both teams.  Straight ahead football.  Hope the lines are healthy.

[SoCal Deek]

That sort of weather favors the offense. It’s hard for the LBs and DBs to react to cuts in the open field. I’m immediately more concerned if Lamar gets past the front four. 

[SCBills]

Can never know for sure - and we haven’t seen this revamped Bills Offense in snow - but light snow (relatively speaking), high 20’s/low 30’s and light to moderate winds would seem to be the best conditions we could ask for when playing against the most electric cut/juke/speed player in the league, while being a pass heavy offense ourselves.  

[krf139]

After watching Aaron Rodgers in the snow a few weeks ago, I'm convinced a passing game can thrive in inclement conditions.

[zow2]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

That sort of weather favors the offense. It’s hard for the LBs and DBs to react to cuts in the open field. I’m immediately more concerned if Lamar gets past the front four. 

 

Even so, it's impossible to stick your foot in the ground and cut with the same speed as a dry surface.  So even if Lamar is slowed by 3/10th's of a second on his cuts, it will allow guys to close a bit quicker.  But if he gets out in the open field,, we can only hope he slips.  If we can throw the ball and it's not too windy, I think it's a nice advantage for Buffalo.  

With Baltimore, look out for the tight end and those short dump offs.

[SoCal Deek]

3 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

Even so, it's impossible to stick your foot in the ground and cut with the same speed as a dry surface.  So even if Lamar is slowed by 3/10th's of a second on his cuts, it will allow guys to close a bit quicker.  But if he gets out in the open field,, we can only hope he slips.  If we can throw the ball and it's not too windy, I think it's a nice advantage for Buffalo.  

With Baltimore, look out for the tight end and those short dump offs.

The Bills turf has been notoriously slippery. Do I recall reading that they tried to fix it? 

[nucci]

34 minutes ago, krf139 said:

After watching Aaron Rodgers in the snow a few weeks ago, I'm convinced a passing game can thrive in inclement conditions.

too young for the Jim Kelly offense?

[RichRiderBills]

We are talking about a few things here;

 

Cold weather...can be biggest factor, can demoralize and put folks in a sluggish mood, espc early. 

 

Snow...light to medium snow in 20s or low 30s no big deal.

 

Snow in higher temp can mimic rain, and not talking sleet. Regular snow melting on surfaces can make slippery turf and ball control. 

 

Heavy Snow, like 17 Colts game. This is a mire that changes a lot. It basically turns football into a differing game. It slows down everything. Gotta take short steps and reduces effectiveness of cutting and being elusive. 

 

I know people talk about running game in snow, but in some ways all bets are off. Lamar likes to cut hard, take big strides, and has had traction issues before. I think he would be negatively effected, but not sure about the others like Dobbins.

 

 

 

Edited January 14, 2021 by RichRiderBills

[SCBills]

12 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

We are talking about a few things here;

 

Cold weather...can be biggest factor, can demoralize and put folks in a sluggish mood, espc early. 

 

Snow...light to medium snow in 20s or low 30s no big deal.

 

Snow in higher temp can mimic rain, and not talking sleet. Regular snow melting on surfaces can make slippery turf and ball control. 

 

Heavy Snow, like 17 Colts game. This is a mire that changes a lot. It basically turns football into a differing game. It slows down everything. Gotta take short steps and reduces effectiveness of cutting and being elusive. 

 

I know people talk about running game in snow, but in some ways all bets are off. Lamar likes to cut hard, take big strides, and has had traction issues before. I think he would be negatively effected, but not sure about the others like Dobbins.

 

 

 

 

Dobbins played at Ohio State so I would imagine he (maybe) has played in snow?

 

Regardless, he and Gus usually run downhill on their read option plays.  I wouldn't expect that to be affected much for the runner.   

 

The surface could make it more difficult for their OL to get push.  Where our OL will typically sit back in pass pro and let the defender come at them, their OL will be pulling and driving out of their stance.

 

Lamar likes to ride the back and then go horizontal before getting vertical, that typically requires a hard cut.. The snow could play a factor in that.   

They can also use the backs in more of an outside run scheme if they are good with their footing and use Lamar as downhill runner.  

 

Lots of unknowns in how the snow will affect this game.  Especially when we haven't seen Josh Allen play in snow either. 

 

  

Edited January 14, 2021 by SCBills

[RichRiderBills]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

 

Dobbins played at Ohio State so I would imagine he (maybe) has played in snow?

 

Regardless, he and Gus usually run downhill on their read option plays.  I wouldn't expect that to be affected much for the runner.   

 

The surface could make it more difficult for their OL to get push.  Where our OL will typically sit back in pass pro and let the defender come at them, their OL will be pulling and driving out of their stance.

 

Lamar likes to ride the back and then go horizontal before getting vertical, that typically requires a hard cut.. The snow could play a factor in that.   

They can also use the backs in more of an outside run scheme if they are good with their footing and use Lamar as downhill runner.  

 

Lots of unknowns in how the snow will affect this game.  Especially when we haven't seen Josh Allen play in snow either. 

 

  

 

I agree that Dobbins will still be effective. But the extreme snow effects everyone....even big guys, but i think they fare better. Slick conditions make "murphy" come out...and you never know with how it can rear its head.

[Nextmanup]

Just watched the most recent weather forecast video at WIVB's website...the weather guy says it's going to be getting colder on Saturday as the day wears on, there will be an increased chance of local snow, and maybe even some lake effect snow...in particular hitting localized areas such as Orchard Park.

 

Winds will be picking up, temps will be dropping, he thinks good shot at snow during game, possibly lake effect snow.

 

It will be interesting to see how the weather plays out.  It may be a big factor, it may not be much of a factor at all.

 

 

 

 

[nucci]

Just now, Nextmanup said:

Just watched the most recent weather forecast video at WIVB's website...the weather guy says it's going to be getting colder on Saturday as the day wears on, there will be an increased chance of local snow, and maybe even some lake effect snow...in particular hitting localized areas such as Orchard Park.

 

Winds will be picking up, temps will be dropping, he thinks good shot at snow during game, possibly lake effect snow.

 

It will be interesting to see how the weather plays out.  It may be a big factor, it may not be much of a factor at all.

 

 

 

 

could go either way

[strive_for_five_guy]

6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I hope Lamar wears the same cleats from the Browns "cramps" game. He was slipping all night.

Shhhh don’t give him any tips 🤐...

[Nextmanup]

The forecast keeps changing.  

 

I just saw a forecast saying winds 10-20 MPH, blowing from scoreboard towards the tunnel at game time.

 

It sounds like it's going to snow to some degree....the temp will be around 30 F at game time.

 

I think the wind will play a role.

 

We could get freezing rain, snow, wind, as others have said they are even calling for a mini lake effect system developing with emphasis on only some locations in WNY, but including Orchard Park.

 

My guess is the weather impacts the game.

 

 

[Milanos Milano]

35 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

The forecast keeps changing.  

 

I just saw a forecast saying winds 10-20 MPH, blowing from scoreboard towards the tunnel at game time.

 

It sounds like it's going to snow to some degree....the temp will be around 30 F at game time.

 

I think the wind will play a role.

 

We could get freezing rain, snow, wind, as others have said they are even calling for a mini lake effect system developing with emphasis on only some locations in WNY, but including Orchard Park.

 

My guess is the weather impacts the game.

 

 

It’s definitely going to snow, the question is how much. It won’t be as bad as the snow globe game a few years back. 

[Penfield45]

13 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Just watched the most recent weather forecast video at WIVB's website...the weather guy says it's going to be getting colder on Saturday as the day wears on, there will be an increased chance of local snow, and maybe even some lake effect snow...in particular hitting localized areas such as Orchard Park.

 

Winds will be picking up, temps will be dropping, he thinks good shot at snow during game, possibly lake effect snow.

 

It will be interesting to see how the weather plays out.  It may be a big factor, it may not be much of a factor at all.

 

 

 

 

wind is my biggest worry

 

No pass first offense can play at a high level with 30mph wind gusts, it’s just not possible no matter how strong your QB’s arm is