CEN-CAL17 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: Ugh, January is going to be a really tough month to navigate around the league. It will be interesting. They need to Sequester the entire team to the team facilities for the playoffs. Family can visit after tested.... Not even joking. Watch a few high valued players miss playoff games. Seems like the smart thing to do for a SB title 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: You have to wonder if riding the pine makes it a little less incentivizing to be completely locked down/careful. Remember. These guys have families...wives, kids. There is only so much you can do if wives work. Kroft has a new baby. Doctor visits, etc. Any place where you are in contact with anyone for 15 minutes or more puts you at risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, Doc said: This doesn't look good. Holy hell Doc! What style of internet-fu did you use to find this thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 46 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: they sweat and slam into each other every play of the game but yeah...the end game handshake is maddening? I hear you, but the the after game stuff isn't necessary. Play the game. Get off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: And Knox will be fine since he can't catch anything. Caught Covid before the Jets game, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Well, I guess this should remind the rest of the team not let down their guard. Personally, I wouldn’t object if some vaccine fell off the back of a truck at OBD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I don't doubt the NFL would do that but is it them reporting test results or an independent group? I honestly don't know. It's an independent, licensed and certified lab that is not gonna risk their license for the NFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said: Just be normal. Be positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: Two things I wonder about: 1) will they stop the needless hand shaking after games .. it is bizarre how they have all these protocols in place but then after the game they are hugging and otherwise getting close to the other team. Simply maddening. 2) will players who already tested positive be exempt from the close contact protocol? i have been saying the same thing about number 1. At least, wear a mask! Not only that— but I think the players still do those prayer huddles after the game. I think it would be better and safer for each team to basically say— no interactions with the other team or coaches pre or post game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, hemma said: Well, I guess this should remind the rest of the team not let down their guard. Personally, I wouldn’t object if some vaccine fell off the back of a truck at OBD. I know where you're coming from. Trouble is, it still takes 21 days to become effective I believe. At this point in proceedings, it's not worth the trouble tbh - the season is going to be mostly over bar the SB itself, by the time it might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, Steptide said: I don't know either. If it's team Dr's, I wouldn't doubt in anyway that the more important players probably barely even get swabbed for these tests. A quick swipe along the tip of the nose will do 😉 The players self-swab as I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 There are two players on this team that if they got the covids kills our season Lock them up and bubble wrap them please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 When would we know if there are any close contacts they are out too? Would they have announced they already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: This doesn't look good. Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: For reals? How do you know? He said it on Twitter or something if I recall. Edited January 2, 2021 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: You have to wonder if riding the pine makes it a little less incentivizing to be completely locked down/careful. I have to say I really thought that was going to be a huge problem in college this year with walk-ons. You're the 17th LB on the depth chart at Alabama (and yes there actually is a 17th LS there and believe I saw 3 long snappers too) how motivated is that person going to be to stay clean. Thought they should have dumped all the walk-ons, but didn't seem to affect them any worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Remember. These guys have families...wives, kids. There is only so much you can do if wives work. Kroft has a new baby. Doctor visits, etc. Any place where you are in contact with anyone for 15 minutes or more puts you at risk. I'm sorry but being prior military, I've had lengthy TDY's and numerous separations from my family for the mission. These guys are millionaires. They can "Rough it" for a month and go on lock down. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: I'm sorry but being prior military, I've had lengthy TDY's and numerous separations from my family for the mission. These guys are millionaires. They can "Rough it" for a month and go on lock down. I understand your point and appreciate your service....but one difference you may be overlooking is that you signed on, knowing TDY you would not see your family. The NFL and NFLPA negotiated how the season would work and explicitly excluded a bubble or lockdown. So saying to them "lockdown now" would be changing the terms of their employment. Maybe they'd agree, but the NFL isn't the military, and they can't just dictate or change the terms unilaterally. The players have got to buy in. It's also not likely for a lockdown or bubble to be effective unless you also lockdown all the staff who have player contact - trainers, medical, coaches, I'm not sure who all. You gotta know this, you're only as strong as your weakest link. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: I'm sorry but being prior military, I've had lengthy TDY's and numerous separations from my family for the mission. These guys are millionaires. They can "Rough it" for a month and go on lock down. Yeah just a few years back I spent 210 days in Iraq for an extra $3.50 a day.... I say for the playoffs either sequester the team to the facility or limit them from home and the facility. Test family members as well. I want this team 100% for the next 35 days. Could you imagine a team losing big names players in the playoffs? They can all lay low, restrict themselves and family members. I know some may have jobs, maybe subject them to testing periodically as well. This has to be a conversation of every team in the league right now, asking the question, “what are the team playoff rules and restrictions gonna look like to ensure no issues for the next 30+ days” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: I'm sorry but being prior military, I've had lengthy TDY's and numerous separations from my family for the mission. These guys are millionaires. They can "Rough it" for a month and go on lock down. I'm also prior military. I'm not suggesting that the players shouldn't isolate even from their families. I'm merely suggesting that in the case of those with families, it's harder to isolate. In Kroft's case, we don't know his particular set of circumstances. Does his wife need assistance, for example, with the baby? I don't think the team is requiring it, and each player and coach has to weigh for himself what they are willing to sacrifice in pursuit of a championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: I'm sorry but being prior military, I've had lengthy TDY's and numerous separations from my family for the mission. These guys are millionaires. They can "Rough it" for a month and go on lock down. Yup, exactly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Probably at Wegmans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The players self-swab as I understand it. Well, there Ya go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I understand your point and appreciate your service....but one difference you may be overlooking is that you signed on, knowing TDY you would not see your family. The NFL and NFLPA negotiated how the season would work and explicitly excluded a bubble or lockdown. So saying to them "lockdown now" would be changing the terms of their employment. Maybe they'd agree, but the NFL isn't the military, and they can't just dictate or change the terms unilaterally. The players have got to buy in. It's also not likely for a lockdown or bubble to be effective unless you also lockdown all the staff who have player contact - trainers, medical, coaches, I'm not sure who all. You gotta know this, you're only as strong as your weakest link. The focus and time put in on this team, staff, medical etc over the next 3-4 weeks is gonna be way dialed in and ramped up. There won’t be time for anything anyways. The conversation would be short and simple. “We are on a mission, your focus is here at the facility and if not you are at home resting or studying. Please limit your interactions and your families interactions socially unless it’s mandatory, this will ensure we get to do what we set out to do”..... nobody is gonna question that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Buddo said: There has been talk, in the past, of getting teams to 'bubble' for the playoffs, but whether or not that happens, is another question. NFLPA has said no. There extended answer "Will we get paid more and if not the answer is 'no' and can we add some addition restrictions since you asked?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: NFLPA has said no. There extended answer "Will we get paid more and if not the answer is 'no' and can we add some addition restrictions since you asked?" i don’t think anyone can require it. But I assume an optional bubble would be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, hemma said: Well, I guess this should remind the rest of the team not let down their guard. Personally, I wouldn’t object if some vaccine fell off the back of a truck at OBD. Since it requires two vaccinations with a period of time apart it would require two trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Damn Tight Ends! WTF is the matter with you guys? Can’t follow team guidelines? Undisciplined SOBs! Of course he’s not essential, but who else is he gonna drag down? 🤬 Dude barely plays anyways and signed a pretty decent contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 If he gets close to Josh or Diggs, shoot first and ask questions later. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: You have to wonder if riding the pine makes it a little less incentivizing to be completely locked down/careful. He’s a neighbor. I don’t know the guy, and I have no idea what his daily habits are. But we have a lot of idiots in the neighborhood who act very irresponsibly. This guy is not one of them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffarukus said: they sweat and slam into each other every play of the game but yeah...the end game handshake is maddening? They sweat and slam into 10-15 guys during the game then they go and shake hands and hug 20 additional guys .. the backup quarterback, the TE coach, .... needless close contact. Getting Covid for these young men is not normally going to be a huge issue for their health.. but if they lose two weeks it could sink everything the team has been working toward. I would love one good reason that they should do this .. the answer is that despite your snarky response there is none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 He tried to pass the virus on to Knox but fortunately he dropped it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToBillsFan Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, 34-78-83 said: I’d bet that Kroft WAS diligently following all protocols. You don’t just get Covid from hanging out with crowds. He is a stand up, hard working, follow the rules to a T kinda guy from all we’ve seen. Your thoughts here are pretty short sighted I wonder if your thoughts would be the same if this happened to Allen or Diggs before our first playoff game. Point is with this much on the line at this stage of the season you sit home unless you need to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Saves the Bills the trouble of making him inactive. Real problem is the close contacts. Hope for the best for everyone on the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: Saves the Bills the trouble of making him inactive. Real problem is the close contacts. Hope for the best for everyone on the Bills. The real problem is that guys family, and especially the baby. Their health is all that matters. Football is secondary in this situation. This coming from someone who has been to nearly every game since 1990. Edited January 3, 2021 by SectionC3 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: Saves the Bills the trouble of making him inactive. Real problem is the close contacts. Hope for the best for everyone on the Bills. Eh, I figured he’d play a lot tomorrow. Knox is an important piece of our offense and he shouldn’t be out there if we’re resting guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, ToBillsFan said: I wonder if your thoughts would be the same if this happened to Allen or Diggs before our first playoff game. Point is with this much on the line at this stage of the season you sit home unless you need to work Ummm? maybe read it again? If it isn't obvious, my thoughts would be unique for each affected person based on what we know about said person and thats what we know about Kroft. He's a plugger, a selfless player who knows sacrifice in his role, and is a brand new dad, likely on high alert for safety related things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: He tried to pass the virus on to Knox but fortunately he dropped it Wow good try though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, The Wiz said: And Knox will be fine since he can't catch anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: He’s a neighbor. I don’t know the guy, and I have no idea what his daily habits are. But we have a lot of idiots in the neighborhood who act very irresponsibly. This guy is not one of them. Could you please stick a "get well soon, hope your family is well" note in his mailbox for me? You could sign it "Hapless Bills Fan from Two Bills Drive". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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