Tipster19 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 The kid has given everything he’s got to this franchise, now it’s time to reciprocate. He’s the perfect fit for this organization and fan base. Let’s go Buffalo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Right now? Why? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 No. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 It's very clearly not time due to the timeline of his contract. You just trying to spice up the middle of the week? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 It's against CBA rules to negotiate a contract until 3 seasons have been completed. We legally cannot re-sign him until this season is over. 13 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 It is always great timing to bring this up after J Allen has a near record setting day against arguably the worst pass defense in the NFL. Lets not be over emotional over one game, lets at least wait till the end of the year, he has another year left on his rookie contract than when we can start to worry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: The kid has given everything he’s got to this franchise, now it’s time to reciprocate. He’s the perfect fit for this organization and fan base. Let’s go Buffalo!!! See: Fitzpatrick, Ryan October 28, 2011. 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Fitzy and Dick Jauron are on hold for you. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Makes no sense. You’ve got two more years cheap labor. Then a franchise tag you can use if needed. Let the salary cap settle for this 2020 fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 He will. Cool your cats. There is a strategy to drafting a QB and being able to have nice cap room. Its a luxury that the Bills shouldn't just throw away. If he wins a SB with a team that they may not be able to keep if he is paid the big bucks, then he will get even more once he is signed. He is in a good place to only get a bigger contract. No rush needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 He literally can’t sign a new deal before March per the CBA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: The kid has given everything he’s got to this franchise, now it’s time to reciprocate. He’s the perfect fit for this organization and fan base. Let’s go Buffalo!!! Wth’s the matter with you? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: The kid has given everything he’s got to this franchise, now it’s time to reciprocate. He’s the perfect fit for this organization and fan base. Let’s go Buffalo!!! They have to wait until after the season Per NFL Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, Chandler#81 said: Wth’s the matter with you? 13 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: The kid has given everything he’s got to this franchise, now it’s time to reciprocate. He’s the perfect fit for this organization and fan base. Let’s go Buffalo!!! Isn't this the typical Tipster thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It's against CBA rules to negotiate a contract until 3 seasons have been completed. We legally cannot re-sign him until this season is over. Sounds like we can close this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It's against CBA rules to negotiate a contract until 3 seasons have been completed. We legally cannot re-sign him until this season is over. This. Plus, next year he's due $7 Million. Then we can exercise his 5th year option the following year. A lot can change within the next two and a half seasons. If he's a bonafide elite quarterback, we will know it by then and we will pay him. Right now, if we pay him, we'll probably still have to pay him elite QB money. So for absolutely no reason, you want us to lock in Josh Allen right now? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilmann Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Salary cap is going to be way less next season due to COVID-19 so why on earth would it make sense to extend him after this season? If you want the best chance at a super bowl it’s in the next 2 years when his contract is still “cheap”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, Rigotz said: This. Plus, next year he's due $7 Million. Then we can exercise his 5th year option the following year. A lot can change within the next two and a half seasons. If he's a bonafide elite quarterback, we will know it by then and we will pay him. Right now, if we pay him, we'll probably still have to pay him elite QB money. So for absolutely no reason, you want us to lock in Josh Allen right now? No. Yep, do the same thing we did with White and the Texans did with Watson. Pick up the 5th year option and negotiate an EXTENSION onto the end of the original 5 year rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Umm...by the terms of the CBA hey are not allowed to until after his 3rd season. That is what they are waiting on. Might help to know what you are talking about before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Middle to end of next season, if he continues to perform well, never spend large money when motivated by emotional impulses, it is strictly a business decision, can’t be to careful when dropping hundreds of millions of dollars, jmo.., Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Ah, maybe next Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: The kid has given everything he’s got to this franchise, now it’s time to reciprocate. He’s the perfect fit for this organization and fan base. Let’s go Buffalo!!! Just donate $17 to Children’s Hospital and STFU. 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 OP, what exactly are you asking fans to do? I did give to Oshei....anything else I'm supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Ah, maybe next Thursday Did you just call OP a See You Next Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It's against CBA rules to negotiate a contract until 3 seasons have been completed. We legally cannot re-sign him until this season is over. But other than that, what are they waiting for?? 36 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Umm...by the terms of the CBA hey are not allowed to until after his 3rd season. That is what they are waiting on. Might help to know what you are talking about before posting. But that would severely limit the number of new threads he can start..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Sounds like we can close this thread. I second the motion. Everyone in favor say Ay, Ay, AY, AY, AY. The Ayes have it. Moving on, please. Some people have no notion of the CBA, the common sense of just waiting on two more years of cheap labor especially until we are one year past the Covid Cap, and oh by the way we have to pay others. Once we lock him up it’s $40 mil./yr. and hamstrings us. In the world of bad ideas, I can’t believe this one was maybe good natured as you love Allen and god bless, but not rational in the slightest. He will be a very rich man genrationally in 2022, and is Worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Did you just call OP a See You Next Tuesday? I forgot the PPP race jargon. Is being a Tuesday worse than being a Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DrDawkinstein Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gugny said: I forgot the PPP race jargon. Is being a Tuesday worse than being a Monday? You'll have to join another board to find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Wow this sounds like a replay of when they gave Fitz all that cash then he fell apart . Let's let him prove that he can produce like he did yesterday all the time and do it against a top 10 D . I'm not saying he didn't look great the other day but given what he has as weapons he should be able to do what he did against the Hawks almost when ever he wants to or with at least more consistency . The Bills have jumped the gun before and seeing as they have time to let him prove on the field he is the guy lets just let it play out there's no rush he ain't going no where ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 They can’t per the CBA so this is a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, T master said: Wow this sounds like a replay of when they gave Fitz all that cash then he fell apart . Let's let him prove that he can produce like he did yesterday all the time and do it against a top 10 D . I'm not saying he didn't look great the other day but given what he has as weapons he should be able to do what he did against the Hawks almost when ever he wants to or with at least more consistency . The Bills have jumped the gun before and seeing as they have time to let him prove on the field he is the guy lets just let it play out there's no rush he ain't going no where ... While the Op started a pretty needless thread please do not compare Fitz (as much as I like him) to Josh Allen. It's apples and cantaloupes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, MJS said: Right now? Why? Honestly, the price goes up every year. The quicker you get in (if you know he's the guy, of course) the cheaper the price tag is. What would it cost to re-sign him now, versus what would it cost if he were to go out and win the Super Bowl this year? Not saying he's going to, but you can see how that value can balloon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, CLTbills said: Honestly, the price goes up every year. The quicker you get in (if you know he's the guy, of course) the cheaper the price tag is. What would it cost to re-sign him now, versus what would it cost if he were to go out and win the Super Bowl this year? Not saying he's going to, but you can see how that value can balloon. It is against the rules of the CBA to sign him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: See: Fitzpatrick, Ryan October 28, 2011. Hardly the same thing.......Veteran Journeyman with a noodle arm on a cheap expiring deal vs A 7th overall pick that was drafted to be a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Josh has 2 years (including the 5th year option) remaining on his contract. Considering the 2021 possible cap crunch. I would make sense to extend him after 2021 where the team can spread out some of his money by putting some on the front end increasing his 5th year option cap number 8-10 million to ease the cap number a bit when the main extension comes in. Either way I am happy to just have what appears to be a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: It's against CBA rules to negotiate a contract until 3 seasons have been completed. We legally cannot re-sign him until this season is over. This thread is from the genius who was sure we'd all go trespassing to tailgate on closed private property. He cares not for your "laws" and "rules". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Hardly the same thing.......Veteran Journeyman with a noodle arm on a cheap expiring deal vs A 7th overall pick that was drafted to be a franchise QB. The Fitz 2011 comparisons are very flawed. The Bills bought high right before the stock dropped. But Josh is a blue chip prospect who has improved every single year. The Bills are also under zero pressure to extend Josh right now. Let him play out the back 7 games and get a full picture before you land on a final number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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