Hebert19 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yes. He has been injured. But even when playing he hasn't been the usual John brown 5 catches 75 yards every damn game. Now. Is this a cause or effect? Remember back when Minnesota said they were going to throw the ball to Randy moss 15 times a game. It came at the price of victories. I think Josh is looking for Diggs too much. Early on he was spreading it around now he's locking in on him a little too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 he was absent after the first few series....the injury is still giving him issues it appears Brutal drop off the facemask on that first series very un John Brown like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 That’s your biggest concern? Yikes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Likes The Bills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Brown had 4 catches against the raiders but I see what you mean. had a big drop early on and then couldn’t bring in the bomb from Josh because of great coverage by the chiefs defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yes its clear that Beasley is not a game breaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: That’s your biggest concern? Yikes It is a legitimate concern though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yeah man, Duke Williams is just invisible out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Count me in. He didn’t look right... noticeable limp after the ball he doinked off his face mask. Just shut him down until NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 He is a decoy until healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 He had 4 catches against the Raiders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I'm concered that the speedster mckenzie hasnt been getting any offensive plays or trick play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 he only played a half week 3 and not at all week 5. He’s definitely out there playing hurt and not a big part of the game plan, maybe a decoy? Don’t expect to see him this Week. Hopefully can get healthy for pats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I remember him today from the penalties where the Chiefs were randomly punching him in the head so that was nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We should have kept Zay Jones 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Why was he playing if he is hopping around? Don’t like that. I don’t typically buy the ‘well the injury can’t get any worse’. While this might be accurate about that particular injury, another injury can occur someplace else on the body while compensating for the current one. 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: We should have kept Zay Jones For what? We have plenty of water boys and girls it appears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 He’s really hurt and I suspect they may have to shut him down. He can’t move. Beasley is really fighting through his foot issue too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Alrighty then 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Our WR's were crying about pass interference all game. Chiefs were being very physical. You want to be a big boy team you have to be a big boy. Bills are Charmin soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 10 hours ago, motorj said: I'm concered that the speedster mckenzie hasnt been getting any offensive plays or trick play He actually did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBills51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 John Brown will come around. It was clear yesterday that he was still injured. Bills would of been better off sitting him another game and let Davis run as the 2 receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Johnny a full go at practice today so lets hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Johnny a full go at practice today so lets hope. He makes this offense go...just a consistent, reliable 5-6 catch, 70-80 yards a week guy that opens things up so much for others with his speed and ability to catch 10-15 yard intermediate routes after he runs the CB off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 How is this the biggest of your concerns? If he were 100% healthy with no catches this still shouldnt be your biggest concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 8:24 PM, Hebert19 said: Yes. He has been injured. But even when playing he hasn't been the usual John brown 5 catches 75 yards every damn game. Now. Is this a cause or effect? Remember back when Minnesota said they were going to throw the ball to Randy moss 15 times a game. It came at the price of victories. I think Josh is looking for Diggs too much. Early on he was spreading it around now he's locking in on him a little too much. UM....John Brown had 4 catches on 5 targets against the Raiders. 42 yds. John Brown had a great year last year as our #1 WR with Beasley and some questionable talent behind him. A more typical John Brown year has been ~3 receptions per game for 45-50 ypg Brown was limited against the Rams due to injury (2 targets, 0 receptions), and plainly hampered against KC - should probably not have been playing (4-0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Weep not....Davis is right there to pick up the slack.. He has more yards and catches on fewer targets. He catches 75% of his targets. Brown barely crests 50%. Forget Brown. Give Davis more shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBobs Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 It's good to have Brown back, hopefully he's healthy because his speed really opens things up for Diggs on the other side of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Weep not....Davis is right there to pick up the slack.. He has more yards and catches on fewer targets. He catches 75% of his targets. Brown barely crests 50%. Forget Brown. Give Davis more shots. Davis with John Brown in the lineup 9 targets 9 catches 2 TDs Davis without John Brown 12 targets 6 catches 0 TDs John Brown makes everyone better. Believe that 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 John Brown will be "good to go" at Bills practice today. so hopefully he's back to 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: Davis with John Brown in the lineup 9 targets 9 catches 2 TDs Davis without John Brown 12 targets 6 catches 0 TDs John Brown makes everyone better. Believe that Davis has had only one game with over 5 targets. He had his highest number of catches in a game with no Brown. In 2 games that he was with Brown, Brown had zero catches. If Brown can't answer the bell, give the load to Davis. Why split the targets with a guy only reeling in half of his passes? He's grossly underutilized. Diggs, Davis, Beasely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Weep not....Davis is right there to pick up the slack.. He has more yards and catches on fewer targets. He catches 75% of his targets. Brown barely crests 50%. Forget Brown. Give Davis more shots. Davis may become a better WR than Brown in time, but right now, he's not. Davis has fewer targets while playing more for a reason - he's not getting open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Pssssst Psssssst Not that Smoke isn't needed, he is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Davis has had only one game with over 5 targets. He had his highest number of catches in a game with no Brown. In 2 games that he was with Brown, Brown had zero catches. If Brown can't answer the bell, give the load to Davis. Why split the targets with a guy only reeling in half of his passes? He's grossly underutilized. Diggs, Davis, Beasely. He had his highest number of catches without brown, what was his catch % that game? You did use his catch % as proof that he was better than brown.....but his catch% without brown isn’t very good. It only looks good because he was 9/9 WITH brown. Our offense is at its best when we have all 4 of them out there. Brown is a huge threat on the boundaries vs these zones teams are running against us. Teams have to focus on he and Diggs....then you have Beasley and the rbs underneath along with Davis, who can do it all. I love Davis. I think he could be our #2 eventually. I think he’s currently best used as our #4. John Brown makes things happen for our offense even when he’s not getting targeted. I don’t think that your giving him enough credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Pssssst Psssssst Not that Smoke isn't needed, he is. Love me some Beasley since we got him. Feed the "Cole Train Firebox"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Davis may become a better WR than Brown in time, but right now, he's not. Davis has fewer targets while playing more for a reason - he's not getting open. Or there are too many guys to target. He's 4th of all ball catchers in targets, 3rd in catches. He's getting open. His catch % suggests he's an easier target than Brown. 2 hours ago, NewEra said: He had his highest number of catches without brown, what was his catch % that game? You did use his catch % as proof that he was better than brown.....but his catch% without brown isn’t very good. It only looks good because he was 9/9 WITH brown. Our offense is at its best when we have all 4 of them out there. Brown is a huge threat on the boundaries vs these zones teams are running against us. Teams have to focus on he and Diggs....then you have Beasley and the rbs underneath along with Davis, who can do it all. I love Davis. I think he could be our #2 eventually. I think he’s currently best used as our #4. John Brown makes things happen for our offense even when he’s not getting targeted. I don’t think that your giving him enough credit. Brown doesn't even make a decent decoy now. How is his catch percentage with Davis? Whether a guy catches a pass isn't determined by what teammate/WR is lined up on the opposite side the line of scrimmage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Davis also caught 2 TDs that ended up getting called back because of penalty (one of which was his, but just illegal procedure). The long one in the middle of the field vs KC and the one last game. Hes getting open and seems to handle the Josh Allen fastball pretty effortlessly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Or there are too many guys to target. He's 4th of all ball catchers in targets, 3rd in catches. He's getting open. His catch % suggests he's an easier target than Brown. Brown doesn't even make a decent decoy now. How is his catch percentage with Davis? Whether a guy catches a pass isn't determined by what teammate/WR is lined up on the opposite side the line of scrimmage. this is awesome so we’re better without John Brown and he should be traded or benched and Davis should be our #2? that’s what you think? If so, this explains a lot Edited October 28, 2020 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: this is awesome so we’re better without John Brown and he should be traded or benched and Davis should be our #2? that’s what you think? If so, this explains a lot No, straw man. You seemed for a minute to want to make a fact based argument so I was responding in kind (and this was your hyperbolic non-response). My bad. Anyway. Sure, it's nice to have Brown, when he's able to play fully. This Offense isn't suffering for the absent Brown as much as there is no running game. Lining up 4 WR isn't going to work much, now that teams see how it is with Daboll's Offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Weep not....Davis is right there to pick up the slack.. He has more yards and catches on fewer targets. He catches 75% of his targets. Brown barely crests 50%. Forget Brown. Give Davis more shots. 36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: No, straw man. You seemed for a minute to want to make a fact based argument so I was responding in kind (and this was your hyperbolic non-response). My bad. Anyway. Sure, it's nice to have Brown, when he's able to play fully. This Offense isn't suffering for the absent Brown as much as there is no running game. Lining up 4 WR isn't going to work much, now that teams see how it is with Daboll's Offense. I simply said that John Brown makes everyone better, including Gabriel Davis. you said to forget Brown and give Davis more looks, throwing some catch% stats out there and said the brown doesn’t even make a good decoy now. he makes a fine decoy and a fine WR. You’re just going off a handful of games in which he was hurt in almost all of them. I don’t think “forgetting John Brown and giving Davis more shots” makes us a better offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 He's definitely looking for Diggs to much when Brown is inactive but he also has found Beasley quite a bit too i just wish Brown & Knox would get fully healthy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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