RyanC883 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: This team is in shambles. Now go beat up some scrubs next game. then everyone will be saying how the D is fixed, etc. Play well against a good team, something this D has not done all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: This team is in a crisis right now. Was KC in crisis last year when they lost four out of five? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Kansas City was in total control of this game. The Bills chose dying a slow death by the run iver giving up big plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 LOL Bradshaw stops the conversation to let everyone know he named a horse after Patrick Mahomes. What an a$$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I know everyone's pissed right now, and yes the defense (and offense) looked pretty pathetic tonight, but part of me wonders how much this re arrangement of the schedule threw off the bills MOJO. If they play this bad vs the jets then I'll start getting really worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: McDermott will never take this team anywhere. He can't beat good teams. I think there is enough proof of this by now. Garbage lazy take 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We had zero gameplan. None. I could tell in the 1st half watching Norman - we gave KC an extreme amount of respect. Norman kept giving these 15-20 yard cushions, like we were so worried about Mahomes. The whole game was like that. The whole strategy. Play smashmouth football. At the end, we were penetrating on D, and creating losses. We needed to be like that the whole game. I was big on McD. Now, I am not. You cannot play or coach scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, appoo said: Bills only had the ball 4 times in the 2nd half. 1st ended with a Cole Beasley drop. 2nd ended with Moss getting stone walled on 3rd and 1, 3rd was the TD, 4th was the INT at the end of the game. That's really not on Allen. When they gave him the opportunity to sling it in the 2nd, he showed well. Josh was off in the 1st half granted the defense did him few favors. Also he had a few misses from his WRs. I'd call it a team loss but blame the D more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I'm happy I didn't miss work for this display I'm not happy I stayed up until 1am for this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: McDermott will never take this team anywhere. He can't beat good teams. I think there is enough proof of this by now. the defensive regression is alarming. Is he Marvin Lewis?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Top 3 worst game I’ve ever seen Allen play. Defense. There’s no words. They are what they are... a bottom five defense. I still maintain that we have better players than our terribleness infers, but I don’t know anymore. Cant really change the players, so I’ll settle for changing the coach... Frazier can be fired yesterday. His schemes are vanilla and trash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, WatfordBills said: This was really ugly. I still cannot fully wrap my head around how our defence went from very good to horrific in less than a season. I half think if those first few passes in the game connected for Allen, this would've been a different game. To me, this is sort of a reversal of last year. Last year, our offence stunk in games and our defence had to bail us out. This year, our defence stinks and our offence has to bail them out. I feel this year will be a repeat of last year, with the exception that we'll win the AFC East by virtue of the Pats, Fish and Jets being trash I worry that a lot of the defensive guys got paid and maybe they don't have that heart. Hughes, Addision, Tre, Poyer and several other defenders either got new contracts or extensions. I hope they get Zimmer more snaps he was one of the bright spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, TroutDog said: Was KC in crisis last year when they lost four out of five? I agree, but wasn’t that while Mahomes was out? Can you imagine where the Bills would be with Barkley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Losing to a top team is one thing, so long as you look good. The Bills didn't. So many times they were out of position, missed tackles, missed blocks, and the Chiefs were good for 5-10 yds a run almost every attempt. That hurts. As bad as things were, the Bills were in this one most of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: LOL Bradshaw stops the conversation to let everyone know he named a horse after Patrick Mahomes. What an a$$ I mean not for nothing but that guy is both getting older and took a lot of shots to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 They weren't embarrassed on the scoreboard. They will be embarrassed in the film room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 And now the offense has been horrible the last two weeks against average at best defenses. Not looking good going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, billsfan89 said: The punts in the third quarter really killed the Bills chances. Even 3 points on one of those possessions keeps the Bills in the game more. Yup. If you're gonna play bend but don't break. and intentionally give up the run, then you better get points when you have the rock. I mean Mahomes is the best QB alive. If you give him opportunities, he'll kill you with the big play, so I don't neccesarily mind the game plan on D. It actually worked to a certain degree. Afterall the Bills were THIS close to having the ball, down 6, in Chiefs territtory, with just about 5 left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: 0-2 against the two best teams in the AFC ( who was in the championship last year ?) ,4-0 against the rest of the NFL with the jets coming up. Obviously a lot of things to work on but the jets cardinals patriots don't exactly scare me, hopefully the bills figure out the rest after the bye. Cardinals might feast on this defense a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Success said: We had zero gameplan. None. I could tell in the 1st half watching Norman - we gave KC an extreme amount of respect. Norman kept giving these 15-20 yard cushions, like we were so worried about Mahomes. The whole game was like that. The whole strategy. Play smashmouth football. At the end, we were penetrating on D, and creating losses. We needed to be like that the whole game. I was big on McD. Now, I am not. You cannot play or coach scared. We dared KC to beat us running and they did, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: The completely dominated us from start to finish. Holding them to 27 is hardly a moral victory. Josh/Daboll look lost these last 2 games. Second game in a row where the offense looked out of synch from start to finish. I'm not remotely qualified to diagnose what the problem is, but it needs to get sorted out. I get that we lost two two teams that are a combined 9-1, but Ten and KC have been playing shaky defense all season. This is more about us than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) I thought the defensive game plan was alright. If they didn’t get run over for 250 yards could have potentially stole one there. On the other side we struggled running the ball which forces team to rely on Allen to bail them out on 3rd and long constantly which we couldn’t do. Edited October 20, 2020 by billieve420 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Leslie Frazier, should be fired. Frazier, fans defend him after that game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, DollaBills said: Too little too late in a game where KC has like 500 yards of offense One more game like this and Frazier needs to be gone. 500 yards and just getting run over like this is unacceptable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Steptide said: I know everyone's pissed right now, and yes the defense (and offense) looked pretty pathetic tonight, but part of me wonders how much this re arrangement of the schedule threw off the bills MOJO. If they play this bad vs the jets then I'll start getting really worried schedule rearrangement is a poor excuse for a championship caliber team—which this team is not. Tenn had a much bigger disruption and won 2 straight. Beating the Jets proves nothing, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We're gonna beat them in the playoffs! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Lost a lot of swagger losing lawson. He set the edge and was top notch vs the run. We have nobody on this dline that has any dog in them and are completely soft. Not time to panic yet but its getting close Edited October 20, 2020 by BillsSbSoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Loss was 80/20 on the offense. But the defensive scheme was yet again stupid in key moments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: LOL Bradshaw stops the conversation to let everyone know he named a horse after Patrick Mahomes. What an a$$ Then the other guy goes, referring to Patrick Mahomes - "Because of that guy!" Well no schitt - it wasn't after his niece. Idiot Edited October 20, 2020 by stevewin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, appoo said: Yup. If you're gonna play bend but don't break. and intentionally give up the run, then you better get points when you have the rock. I mean Mahomes is the best QB alive. If you give him opportunities, he'll kill you with the big play, so I don't neccesarily mind the game plan on D. It actually worked to a certain degree. Afterall the Bills were THIS close to having the ball, down 6, in Chiefs territtory, with just about 5 left. Bend but don’t break never works. Eventually you break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: Leslie Frazier, should be fired. Frazier, fans defend him after that game plan. He doesn't deserve defense but who do we replace him with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Garbage lazy take It's an overreach of a take, but it's not completely invalid at this point... I'm one of the bigger optimists around here, but there's definitely room for wondering at what point we will go from being okay to being a second tier team, to willing to beat first tier teams. We've not done it to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Anyone who remembers 2011 should be concerned right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, BillsSbSoon said: Lost a lot of swagger losing lawson. He set the edge and was top notch vs the run. We have nobody on this dline that has any dog in them and are completely soft. Not time to panic yet but its getting close Ed had a good game, he got his knee brace off this week and is coming on. Addison js a good player too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, RyanC883 said: schedule rearrangement is a poor excuse for a championship caliber team—which this team is not. Tenn had a much bigger disruption and won 2 straight. Beating the Jets proves nothing, IMHO. True, it doesnt prove anything, but if the jets put up 20 something points on the bills defense, I think they're in serious trouble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Justin C said: Remember last year when there would be a thread after every game asking why we paid Star Lotulelei and how he should be cut because he never put up "stats?" I give you this game as an example. Could have used a run stuffer today. Everyone thinks they're a bad ass until it's time to pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Chiefs try to run on a real defense with a d-line and they are going to get punched in the mouth. Frazier has not figured out how to force a 3 and out enough... I still think we drop into too many passive zone looks. That would make sense if we had a d-line that could get to a QB and bring him down with 4-men, but we don't. The net effect is every QB on 3rd down is able to scramble around, buy time and complete passes or run for the 1st. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The offense punted twice in the third quarter. Even a field goal on one of those possession keeps the game within one score. So if we get points every time they punt we win(which is like 2-3x/game). Got it. You just unlocked the code on how all crappy teams can be good Edited October 20, 2020 by daz28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, appoo said: Yup. If you're gonna play bend but don't break. and intentionally give up the run, then you better get points when you have the rock. I mean Mahomes is the best QB alive. If you give him opportunities, he'll kill you with the big play, so I don't neccesarily mind the game plan on D. It actually worked to a certain degree. Afterall the Bills were THIS close to having the ball, down 6, in Chiefs territtory, with just about 5 left. The gameplan was very Pats like in a sense. They wanted to limit the possessions and basically keep it to a one possession game the whole way and take your chances that you make the plays late. The defense gave up 26 points. The offense punted twice in the third quarter and Bass missed a field goal late in the first half. That's all she wrote. Bass making that kick and Josh scoring at least 3 on one of those possessions makes things much different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: schedule rearrangement is a poor excuse for a championship caliber team—which this team is not. Tenn had a much bigger disruption and won 2 straight. Beating the Jets proves nothing, IMHO. It proves we're likely best team in AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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